Give Zeke some props

[Aviano90]

Yep because he was innefective.

You just aren’t worth the effort. There has to be some level of rationality but there is none.

 

[CowboyRoy]

yeah, absolutely. splitting two defenders and trucking a third when we needed it most. huge play at a crucial time

15 million for one play. Our hero

 

[CowboyRoy]

It was a huge first down and was crucial to us winning game. Why on earth would you try to make a joke about that? Mind you, I am also considered a Zeke hater by the lovers. This is exactly why haters aren’t considered “realists”.

When it’s his only good play of the game I’m not impressed. On the flip side some homer trying to say he was great when he sucked 95% of the time is laughable.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You just aren’t worth the effort. There has to be some level of rationality but there is none.

He played terrible. That’s a fact.

no one play nonsense can change that. Your stance is a joke.

 

[Aviano90]

He played terrible. That’s a fact.

no one play nonsense can change that. Your stance is a joke.

yeah that 76 total yards on only 13 touches, no turnovers, no missed blocks, no penalties, and no dropped passes is “played terrible” in your book. You are non-sensical. Your opinion means absolutely nothing. You are the Pappy of Zeke haters.

 

[CowboyRoy]

yeah that 76 total yards on only 13 touches, no turnovers, no missed blocks, no penalties, and no dropped passes is “played terrible” in your book. You are non-sensical. Your opinion means absolutely nothing. You are the Pappy of Zeke haters.

15 million for 76 when dak is out and we need him? Lol



Your hero took a dump. 50 yards rushing? Total joke as is your homer opinion.

 

[Aviano90]

15 million for 76 when dak is out and we need him? Lol



Your hero took a dump. 50 yards rushing? Total joke as is your homer opinion.

My hero? I am considered a Zeke hater here. You are just as tone deaf as Rockport when judging posters. Your use of emojis doesn’t help.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Zeke is a tough guy , i dont think anyone doubts that .

 

[BAT]

Yah that 50 yards was just incredible!!!

Toxic poster.

Your agenda is so blatant you do not even bother hiding your hate.

 

[RonnieT24]

He's averaged 4.37 ypc these last 4 games. Where are you getting 3.7? Are you including the bye week?

I did the math off the top of my head.. Lemme do it proper here to be sure..

35 carries for 153 yards.. My bad.. that comes to 4.37.. Very respectable. Still lower than the guy people want him to replace. Zeke has gone 63 carries for 280 over the same 4 games. 4.44 ypc. And again that's while doing much more of the heavy lifting with inside runs. When it gets really dicey is looking at the last three games.. Pollard going 21 for 78 yards.. That's the 3.7 I was remembering. Meanwhile Zeke has gone 43 carries for 170.. 3.95 on that span. So for all the claims of "better runner" aside from one great game (SD) he has been no better in ypc than Zeke and sometimes slightly worse. and sometimes a lot worse.. like Sunday.

 

[Aviano90]

I did the math off the top of my head.. Lemme do it proper here to be sure..

35 carries for 153 yards.. My bad.. that comes to 4.37.. Very respectable. Still lower than the guy people want him to replace. Zeke has gone 63 carries for 280 over the same 4 games. 4.44 ypc. And again that's while doing much more of the heavy lifting with inside runs. When it gets really dicey is looking at the last three games.. Pollard going 21 for 78 yards.. That's the 3.7 I was remembering. Meanwhile Zeke has gone 43 carries for 170.. 3.95 on that span. So for all the claims of "better runner" aside from one great game (SD) he has been no better in ypc than Zeke and sometimes slightly worse. and sometimes a lot worse.. like Sunday.

The very fact we have to compare Zeke and a back up doesn’t bode well for Zeke. It would be like trying to prove Dak is better than Cooper Rush. When you are near the top of the pay grade for your position, you should be head and shoulders better than your replacement. If not, the considerably cheaper option gets the advantage.

 

[RonWashington]

When it’s 30 zip why is 21 still taking abuse . Corey Clement was made for this role. This is one of the problems I had with MM Sunday .

 

[Proof]

15 million for one play. Our hero

goal posts you said he needs to deliver when we need him most, he did. that’s the point. i’m
not defending his salary, but he’s been pretty great this year. you should learn to accept when you’re wrong, especially demonstrably

 

[Aulac]

Zeke is not a generational talent. He is the product of the O-line. When the O-line is good, he does well. Same as Gurley. He is massively overpaid and he no longer a bell cow adding insult to injury. He has Pollard now to carry the load for him. So he getting pay much more while doing much less compare to his rookie season. And yet I see people making thread to praise him? Why is the expectation here so low?

He better gut it out, it literally his freaking JOB!

 

[America's Cowboy]

Does the blocking ever come into the equation?

The blocking was well performed on that 4th down attempt. All Zeke had to do was make 1 guy (the Safety) miss. This is what he gets paid $15 million dollars a year for. To come through in situations like that and keep drives alive. He failed miserably. He has failed over and over and over. He doesn't deserve that pay. He's no Emmitt. Emmitt would have gotten those 4th & 1s or 2s, even at the goal line.

 

[RaZon]

Zeke has a career average of 4.5 which is great and better than Emmitt Smith.

His 2021 average is a gaudy 4.9, that is fantastic.

What's the problem, there shouldn't be one.

 

[Cmac]

How am I cherry picking when I used the same two games that you brought up to make my point. Zeke has struggled.. but he has struggled considerably less than Pollard has in that span. You can get mad and declare victory till the cows come home. You claimed Zeke has has "two horrible game.." yet somehow Pollard having had two WORSE games is okay.. Have fun with that.

RonnieT24....It's the "Salaryologists" at it again. Zeke will be the Fall Guy again, if the wheels come off. I've never seen some fans so eager to chew their own up, without logic.....and then excuse some that display blatantly poor play, poor decision making, or decline.

 

[CowboyRoy]

goal posts you said he needs to deliver when we need him most, he did. that’s the point. i’m
not defending his salary, but he’s been pretty great this year. you should learn to accept when you’re wrong, especially demonstrably

this conversation is about his failure to produce the last two games. When we needed him.

he didn’t score on that play. Your memory is as bad as zeke has been the last two weeks.

demonstrably?

 

[blueblood70]

you’re arguing semantics, and doing it poorly. i don’t care if you have zero issue with it, you are entitled to feel however you like. i was clarifying what some people including myself took issue with

the “line” was the players who were due for significant raises, and the order in which they were due them. amari, dak, byron, etc. these guys contracts were all up before zekes, and were in line before him. not a literal line mind you, but due to be dealt with and accounted for by merit of being forced to sign, franchise, or lose then before zeke was up.

he blew that up by holding the team hostage (literally) and it did have to do with football because by the time it was resolved he was admittedly (as in he admitted it in his own words) “rusty”. and it showed, and it affected the team

so yeah, to me that was offputting. not how much he’s getting paid, but the way he went about getting there and the impact it had on the franchise

disagree as RB he had one shot not like 4 with a QB or positional more long term career..he did the right thing..next

 

[RonnieT24]

The very fact we have to compare Zeke and a back up doesn’t bode well for Zeke. It would be like trying to prove Dak is better than Cooper Rush. When you are near the top of the pay grade for your position, you should be head and shoulders better than your replacement. If not, the considerably cheaper option gets the advantage.

Sorry but that's not the way it works with running backs. The backup frequently has a higher ypc average for a myriad of reasons we've gone over a thousand times. And we don't "have to compare Zeke to a backup" Yall just keep wanting to. Most of us are fine with the 1-2 punch and are happy when Pollard is productive in his role as it helps Zeke be more productive in his role and it helps the team. Actual fans of the team would be overjoyed at that.. not be jumping up and down every day claiming that the "whoooo the backup looks better." Especially when for about 6 weeks now that hasn't been the case. Pollard looked better one game..

Since the Charger game Zeke has 101 carries for 519 yards (5.1 ypc) and 4 TD meanwhile Pollard has 56 carries for 280 yards. Ironically an even 5.0 ypc and no TDs. So despite this superior running ability and despite not being asked to run in short yardage and goal line nearly as often as Zeke is, Pollard is averaging less yards per tote than Zeke over the last 6 games.. This really strains the credibility of the claim that he is "the better runner." More telling is that after 5 straight games of double digit carries we've seen his ypc steadily declining.. Indicating that maybe the notion that he is not suited for full time duty is not as preposterous as some claim. I still like him in the change up back role.. I think he's great at it.. but if he continues to wear down as this season carries on, that may indicate that's where he needs to stay.