Goalline offense? JG says pass, pass, pass

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I really wouldn't fault JG or Linehan for electing to pass in the red zone. The Giants are tough enough when marching downfield under ordinary circumstances but in the red zone, they're twice as tough to run on. Could it be our coaches actually know what they're doing? I think they do.
 

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Anyone trying to blame JG for the play calls when Linehan and Dak are calling the plays are trying to divert blame to JG.

If JG had his way as HG... He would still be calling plays and would never had that taken away from him Jerry.

Stop blaming JG for play calling unless you want to blame him for going for it or not on fourth down, challenging the refs calls, calling time outs.

Again you are bringing up other issues and are trying to divert from what we are actually talking about. If you want to talk about the organization and who runs the day to day operations, we can have that discussion.

The fact, again fact, of the matter is that Jason Garrett is in charge on gameday on the sideline. That's just a fact. The fact also remains that despite who calls the specific plays, Jason Garrett can override whoever calls the plays and instruct him to run or pass.

As has been mentioned, the actual play calls that were made down at the goalline should have worked if it was executed, but some people feel that with the talent we have and being that close that we should have ran the ball three times.

You obviously disagree with that but the fact that the buck stops with Garrett is just a fact.

And, by all means, don't let little ole me hurt your feelings by saying anything negative about your boy jason. lol
 

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Meh, if Dak puts the ball in the right place on the Dez cross, it's a moot point. They had the right call and all it took was a pass they do in practice and wasn't executed. If you want to blame anyone (i dont) on that series of plays put it on Dak.


If is the problem with a pass.....
 
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Lets not also forget that Dez was open for the TD. Dak just missed him.

Yup,,, I'm sure these plays worked well in practice and Linehan wants to make them part of the red zone offense, nothing wrong with that. The breakdown was in Dak's overthrows, otherwise everybody would be singing the praises of the red zone offense.
 

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If Dak delivers the gimme to a wide open Dez, nobody would care about play selection


But he didnt. But why try it 3 times in a row. Explain that please with the O line we have and Zeke??
 

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Don't we carry a fullback precisely for such situations?
 

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Well see now you are trying to divert from the actual issue at hand.

Jerry is not on the sideline. Despite the claims of some, he has no headset on and is not the head coach.
Actually it is you that is diverting from the issue at hand. JG did not call the plays in question. Linehan did. And Dak has the ability to audible. Stop trying to blame JG for something he didn't do.

A good head coach does not overrule his designated play caller every time they call a play he doesn't agree with.
 

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You have arguably the best oline in football, you have arguably the best rb. You have 3 downs. There is ZERO reason not to run at least once, if not twice. I think they were trying to get cute and catch the giants off guard with a pass play or something. When you have that artillery, on short situations, sometimes you just need to POWER your way in. All of this finesse football on short downs with our personnel is foolishness. They didn't do this sort of thing with Demarco Murray. I wonder if they look at Elliott as less capable of being an 'always forward' back than Murray?

To be honest, I wouldn't mind using up to a 2nd rounder on another back so that whenever they randomly pull Elliott out of the game, our offense doesn't completely stall... and I want this to be a powerful, bruiser back so that Linehan isn't tempted to stuff a finesse guy who they obviously are going to try some trick play with on 3rd down.
 

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He threw 40 times. No need for that high of amount of throws from him. Run the ball.
 

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Again you are bringing up other issues and are trying to divert from what we are actually talking about. If you want to talk about the organization and who runs the day to day operations, we can have that discussion.

The fact, again fact, of the matter is that Jason Garrett is in charge on gameday on the sideline. That's just a fact. The fact also remains that despite who calls the specific plays, Jason Garrett can override whoever calls the plays and instruct him to run or pass.

As has been mentioned, the actual play calls that were made down at the goalline should have worked if it was executed, but some people feel that with the talent we have and being that close that we should have ran the ball three times.

You obviously disagree with that but the fact that the buck stops with Garrett is just a fact.

And, by all means, don't let little ole me hurt your feelings by saying anything negative about your boy jason. lol


If a HC is going to override his OC on a regular basis or similar basis... He will hire another OC or call the plays himself.

Here is a Fact... JG used to call the plays and the owner and GM named Jerry Jones made him quit calling plays and pass that duty on the OC.

Fact.

The only reason someone is blaming JG is because the are thinking like a simple fan who blames all wins and losses on a QB no matter why or how a team won or loss.
 

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Because he has the authority to override them? He's the head coach.....

And the owner and GM overrode the HC from calling the plays by basically firing JG as OC and making home give up the duties to Linehan.
 

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Its not the first time this has happened. Thats whats gets me.
He delivers and the third throw never happens

I can't rip a coordinator when his play worked

Didn't like the fade call, the next throw was simple execution


So you made my point when you said you didnt like the fade call. Run the Damn ball then. Thats my only point. They never attempted to run the ball
 

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Actually it is you that is diverting from the issue at hand. JG did not call the plays in question. Linehan did. And Dak has the ability to audible. Stop trying to blame JG for something he didn't do.

A good head coach does not overrule his designated play caller every time they call a play he doesn't agree with.

Nobody said JG called the plays so you might want to direct your comment about that to the person on here who actually said that.

Who said JG should overrule his playcaller everytime he doesn't agree with it? Again, direct your comments to the person who said that.

Some of us have the opinion that Garrett should have ran the ball three times when we were that close. Garrett has the ability to make sure the team did that. To your relief, he didn't in this circumstance. Enjoy your three points.

We won so I am ecstatic. But I agree with the OP in this case. We should have ran the ball.
 

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I did not see this mentioned, but why is it after the Butler pass reception we didn't just run it down their throats? I have seen this too many times. We end up settling for a FG! Why!? I say run, run, run! It just irks me that with this offense, JG still wants to throw the ball in too many of these situations. Thoughts?
Linehan calls the plays, Garrett doesn't have the sack to over rule him.
 
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