Going All In

LocimusPrime said:
I'd trade our first ( which would be a very late first rd ) + tank for Clowney or watt. The thing is, i don't think the Texans would part with them for that price.
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Giving up premium picks AND paying big money for a player is not the formula for success in the modern NFL. It's one or the other (picks or big money).

Draft picks are cap management tools. Teams need draft picks on their rookie contracts to offset the cost of players on their 2nd/3rd contracts.
 
robjay04 said:
Teams as young as the Cowboys don't need to go "all in". We keep building through the draft so we can compete for championships for the next decade.
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Have the Patriots ever gone all in or managed their roster as if they were 1 or 2 player away?

It generally seems the opposite with the Patriots. They go along at a steady pace and keep themselves in contention every year but seem to understand they can't force the issue any given year.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
It doesn't matter one iota.

It's never going to happen.
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Like oftentimes in the past, you are dead wrong. Cleveland under Hue Jackson is on a youth movement, and Thomas has trade value for a team that will attempt to compete in the future instead of now. As Thomas' contract draws closer to the end (his last season will be 2017-18) the chance of trading him will become greater. In 2015 they almost traded him to Denver for a 1st and 2nd, last season they were asking for a 2nd and a young player. The time is ripe for Thomas' career in Cleveland to be done, they will not be re-signing him.

This is obvious, even if it doesn't fit your myopia or agenda.
 
The draft is the reason we are where we are...I think trading those picks is foolish especially considering how young of a team we are.
 
BAT said:
Can't win big if don't risk big.
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Have you seen the Patriots salary distribution last year? They don't "risk big." In fact, the top three spenders last year were the New York Jets, Minnesota Vikings, and San Diego Chargers. The NFL landscape has changed; you have to value your future assets, draft smart, and develop your own to be champion.
 
BAT said:
Like oftentimes in the past, you are dead wrong. Cleveland under Hue Jackson is on a youth movement, and Thomas has trade value for a team that will attempt to compete in the future instead of now. As Thomas' contract draws closer to the end (his last season will be 2017-18) the chance of trading him will become greater. In 2015 they almost traded him to Denver for a 1st and 2nd, last season they were asking for a 2nd and a young player. The time is ripe for Thomas' career in Cleveland to be done, they will not be re-signing him.

This is obvious, even if it doesn't fit your myopia or agenda.
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Lot's of wasted keystrokes there.
 
SHAMSzy said:
Have you seen the Patriots salary distribution last year? They don't "risk big." In fact, the top three spenders last year were the New York Jets, Minnesota Vikings, and San Diego Chargers. The NFL landscape has changed; you have to value your future assets, draft smart, and develop your own to be champion.
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Risking big is not about money, it's about setting trends, uncovering every rock, not sitting on your laurels and playing the same game everyone else is. Belichick is unconventional rather than conventional in his schemes, salary distribution, personnel strategy, etc.

And develop your own means creating value and knowing when to sell. There are layers to success, and every layer has to maximized.
 
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