Going for the kill shot while you are in the window

[LandryFan]

Tony has no say. He's under contract.

Dallas may let him pick his destination if they do indeed decide to trade him but that is as far as it will go.

Oh, I fully understand that JJ haas complete control, but JJ has too much respect for Tony to not accommodate him, IMO. On top of that, $20M for a backup is a wee bit much. We'll find out in a few months, I suppose.

 

[waldoputty]

Oh, I fully understand that JJ haas complete control, but JJ has too much respect for Tony to not accommodate him, IMO. On top of that, $20M for a backup is a wee bit much. We'll find out in a few months, I suppose.

I agree JJ will try to accomodate Romo, but I am hoping for an accomodation that includes Romo staying on the team.
Again, we have plenty of cap $ and QB depth is critical if we want to have continued success throughout our window.

 

[CATCH17]

Oh, I fully understand that JJ haas complete control, but JJ has too much respect for Tony to not accommodate him, IMO. On top of that, $20M for a backup is a wee bit much. We'll find out in a few months, I suppose.

It is too much for a backup but how much cap space would you save if you cut him and is it worth having that cap space over Romo?

I'd rather keep Tony Romo than sign another Benson Mayowa and Cedric Thornton.

 

[LandryFan]

It is too much for a backup but how much cap space would you save if you cut him and is it worth having that cap space over Romo?

I'd rather keep Tony Romo than sign another Benson Mayowa and Cedric Thornton.

Going off of my feeble memory here, but I think they can gain about $14M on next years cap by declaring him a June 1 cut if they choose to go that route ($4M if they just cut him outright). Tony could also allow his contract to be renegotiated to accommodate a trade, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[CATCH17]

Going off of my feeble memory here, but I think they can gain about $14M on next years cap by declaring him a June 1 cut if they choose to go that route ($4M if they just cut him outright). Tony could also allow his contract to be renegotiated to accommodate a trade, if I'm not mistaken.

The move has to be made early IMO.

I'm no cap guru but I would think that they would need the money early on in Free Agency.

14 mill is a lot of space. If true then it's goodbye Romo for sure.

 

[waldoputty]

The move has to be made early IMO.

I'm no cap guru but I would think that they would need the money early on in Free Agency.

14 mill is a lot of space. If true then it's goodbye Romo for sure.

Again, there is more cap space then we need.
The decision should be based on what is good for the team instead of the $ saved.

 

[CATCH17]

Again, there is more cap space then we need.
The decision should be based on what is good for the team instead of the $ saved.

I 100% agree.

This year has shown us how important the backup QB is. Even if we lucked into it.

 

[LandryFan]

The move has to be made early IMO.

I'm no cap guru but I would think that they would need the money early on in Free Agency.

14 mill is a lot of space. If true then it's goodbye Romo for sure.

One thing about making a player a June 1st cut is that the cap savings doesn't become available until June 1st (no help in early FA). That becomes handy for signing draft picks and/or resigning some of your existing players that are approaching the end of their deals and/or it can be rolled over to the next year.

 

[waldoputty]

One thing about making a player a June 1st cut is that the cap savings doesn't become available until June 1st. That becomes handy for signing draft picks and/or resigning some of your existing players that are approaching the end of their deals and/or it can be rolled over to the next year.

But you must have the space before you can draft?
Now it could be used for Martin.

Again, we dont need to save the $ so we should all stop being squirrels at the beginning of the window!

 

[LandryFan]

But you must have the space before you can draft?
Now it could be used for Martin.

Again, we dont need to save the $ so we should all stop being squirrels at the beginning of the window!

You don't have to have the space before you draft, but you do have to have it before you can sign said draft picks. And yes, it could be used in helping to sign Martin.

 

[Doomsday101]

But you must have the space before you can draft?
Now it could be used for Martin.

Again, we dont need to save the $ so we should all stop being squirrels at the beginning of the window!

so you are saying the Cowboys could go out and sign all the big name FA they want, money is no issue at all? You truly believe that?

 

[DallasEast]

Seemingly, some are still holding onto what I would call a fantasy involving Romo as a backup beyond 2016. It's like what he said and projected in The Speech never happened--or that Jones (of all people) will bind him to his contract without reservation. Jerry Jones. ha. Romo may stay on the roster but I would say the odds of that happening being very remote.

As far as the thread topic is concerned, I wouldn't mind the team targeting a couple of (stable minded) pass rushing defensive ends this offseason. Even with Claiborne's status being iffy past 2016, I think the current defense is two solidly consistent pass rushers from being dominant for years to come. Personally I would prefer the pressure coming from the front four edges than the linebackers but the latter need may not be necessary with Jaylon Smith's near future seemingly coming into focus finally.

 

[Nightman]

But you must have the space before you can draft?
Now it could be used for Martin.

Again, we dont need to save the $ so we should all stop being squirrels at the beginning of the window!

Martin doesn't have to be extended until 2019 with the 5th year option, same with LCollins(2019)

Nothing will be resolved with Romo early that saves big cap space
If he is cut, traded or retires before June1st the DAL eats the full 19.6m in dead money in 2017

everything is dependent on timing and cooperation but DAL is not going to waive Tony for no compensation.......they may do a sign and trade that guarantees Tony some money since his present deal offers 0m in guartantees

 

[reddyuta]

how to stay relevant should be simple,keep drafting good olinemen high in the draft.

 

[Eddie]

Do not go for any big name FA's. We need as many blue chip players as we can get. Depth is a serious issue in the NFL.

But let's get our Super Bowl first. Then we can talk about windows ...

 

[Nightman]

You don't have to have the space before you draft, but you do have to have it before you can sign said draft picks. And yes, it could be used in helping to sign Martin.

the draft money is only 2-3m drafting 32nd after the rule of 51 is applied

Martin doesn't have to be extended until 2019

 

[kramskoi]

Romo may or may not be gone in 2017.
But we certainly have the money to keep him.
One way to reduce his cap hit is to do a June 1 release.
But if you want the QB depth and Romo is willing, we can double down and resign him to a 5 year contract knowing he will retire probably before that.

If I read correctly, they can save 14 million going this route (6/1 release). Romo leaving, while distasteful, allows 2018 and 2019 to become real splurge years. Dallas' spending on defense is set to fall to 23rd in the league next year, meaning it is long past time that they make a real commitment to that side of the ball...especially at RDE and even a hoss at 1 or 3 Tech...really get a solid rotation going with upper echelon talent.

I don't see Romo wanting to be a backup with a pay cut...the man wants some hardware...and he deserves a chance even if it is with another team. Trade or release is what I see for him...unless the word on the vine is sour.

 

[Nightman]

so you are saying the Cowboys could go out and sign all the big name FA they want, money is no issue at all? You truly believe that?

Actually yes they can, but they won't

150m in contracts could be 15m in cap space Year One

DAL just doesn't do that , as much as I want a stud DL

 

[waldoputty]

Actually yes they can, but they won't

150m in contracts could be 15m in cap space Year One

DAL just doesn't do that , as much as I want a stud DL

That is where I disagree.
I consider Hardy and the discussion of multi-year extension regarding Hardy as precedence...
They thought they were in the window in the offseason after 2014, and they were starting to go for the kill with Hardy (and Gregory in the 2nd even given the obvious risk)

 

[waldoputty]

If I read correctly, they can save 14 million going this route (6/1 release). Romo leaving, while distasteful, allows 2018 and 2019 to become real splurge years. Dallas' spending on defense is set to fall to 23rd in the league next year, meaning it is long past time that they make a real commitment to that side of the ball...especially at RDE and even a hoss at 1 or 3 Tech...really get a solid rotation going with upper echelon talent.

I don't see Romo wanting to be a backup with a pay cut...the man wants some hardware...and he deserves a chance even if it is with another team. Trade or release is what I see for him...unless the word on the vine is sour.

Actually my argument is 2017 can be our first splurge years, given the expected restructuring and escape valve (Romo/Witten being gone soon)