Going On Record

[dboyz]

I want to go on record early as to what I think the results of this hire (Phillips) will be. I don't do it to "stir the waters", I do it because I have an opinion of it, and if I put it on the board I can't ever come back and say that I saw it differently as this time. (Kind of like a journal ) Then again, if I'm right, I can judge whether my instincts were right or not.

I would welcome each one of you doing the same. I would only suggest we do it in a dispassionate way, not calling names, not insulting the other guy's point of view, just putting ours on record.

My honest opinion of the hire is that it isn't a good one. My opinion has less to do with Wade Phillips as it has to do with Jerry Jones. I think the fundamental problem in Cowboys land is that Jerry sees himself as a football man. I believe until that notion goes away we are doomed to mediocrity.

I think Phillips will help the defense. However, we have been trying to help the defense FOREVER. We have been drafting defense heavy in recent memory.

Honestly, even though I was pulling for Turner among the two, I was on record early wanting a Bob Stoops kind of coach. I still believe that this is ultimately the answer.

I want a young, energetic, confident coach who will run the FOOTBALL side of things. I want someone like Parcells (in terms of being in charge), but someone young and able to inspire a team, and in my book that was unlike the Parcells we got. He may have been that early in his career, but not with us.

I think this move basically amounts to Phillips as the DC while making head coaching decisions on game day. Jerry Jones is the face of the franchise. Jerry Jones is the "football guy".

Phillips doesn't even get to make his own offensive staff hires. That is backward.

So, put me down, officially, for LONG TERM problems. Please note, LONG TERM.

I think this team will be 9-7, to 11-5 this year, and make the playoffs. I do not see a Super Bowl during Phillip's tenure.

That is my "On the Record". What is yours?

Interesting you predict a 9-7 to 11-5 record, but don't think it is a good hire.

I will go on record saying it was a good hire. It wasn't a homerun (V. Lombardi is not available) but it was a standup double. I also think it is a much better hire than NOrv Turner although I really appreciate what Norv brought to this team as coordinator. Of course we'll never be able to compare what Norv could have done to what Phillips does.

Phillips is a defensive minded coach who has improved defenses everywhere he's gone. His defenses have created sacks and turnovers.

Our biggest problem is on the defensive side of the ball, particularly sacks, and to a slightly lesser degree turnovers. Phillips also happens to specialize in the scheme, the 3-4, that we've drafted for the last few years.

The downside as I see it is that he's not a long-term coach. I think Phillips will be successful, multiple 10-win seasons with multiple playoff wins. Whether he wins a super bowl or not, in today's nfl it's hard to say, but I think he will put is position to compete for it.

 

[Waffle]

Under the circmstances, hiring Phillips was probably the best way to go. This team has talent, and hiring a guy with proven success in the 3-4 and an above .500 winning percentage as a NFL head coach is about as safe as you can play it. There weren't any "Parcells Type" coaches out there. Stoops wasn't interested, Cowher is taking the year off and would have cost draft picks, and Belichick is still the HC of the Patriots.

I admit I would have not been all that happy with hiring Norv due to his track record as head coach. If Randy Moss didn't buy into Norv and his offense, what makes anyone think T.O. would have.? I agree with DipChit that it really all boils down to how Romo plays this season.

 

[mschmidt64]

Dallas ran a balanced attack last season we will continue to run this style of offense under Garrett.

To clarify, we are likely to make some pretty wholesale changes on offense with Garrett. He's from Norv's school of offense, which is like Jack Reilly/Ernie Zampese.

Under Sparano/Haley/Payton, we've been running an offense that has more strands of the WCO in it.

Not to say Garrett will be unsuccessful... but I doubt there will be much about the scheme that is continued.

 

[superpunk]

To clarify, we are likely to make some pretty wholesale changes on offense with Garrett. He's from Norv's school of offense, which is like Jack Reilly/Ernie Zampese.

Under Sparano/Haley/Payton, we've been running an offense that has more strands of the WCO in it.

Not to say Garrett will be unsuccessful... but I doubt there will be much about the scheme that is continued.

Was Sparano murdered or neutered, and I wasn't notified?

Sparano runs this offense. Not Garrett.

 

[mschmidt64]

Was Sparano murdered or neutered, and I wasn't notified?

Sparano runs this offense. Not Garrett.

Uh, well, last time I checked, Jason Garrett was named the offensive coordinator. To me that implies that he'll outrank Sparano.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Uh, well, last time I checked, Jason Garrett was named the offensive coordinator. To me that implies that he'll outrank Sparano.

when did this happen? and I think Asst.HC outranks OC

 

[rcaldw]

when did this happen? and I think Asst.HC outranks OC

See the confusion Jerry produces? just kidding but I couldn't resist.

 

[superpunk]

Uh, well, last time I checked, Jason Garrett was named the offensive coordinator. To me that implies that he'll outrank Sparano.

I'd check again. Garrett's role has never been specified - not yet. Thus far, Sparano, as assistant head coach, is the man in charge on offense.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Was Sparano murdered or neutered, and I wasn't notified?

Sparano runs this offense. Not Garrett.

We haven't heard anything definitive.

I think we'll see a lot of changes in the scheme. I've heard a lot of talk about the Timing offense coming back. I like it.

Garrett is the offensive coordinator. Sparano may be the play caller though.

 

[Waffle]

To clarify, we are likely to make some pretty wholesale changes on offense with Garrett. He's from Norv's school of offense, which is like Jack Reilly/Ernie Zampese.

Under Sparano/Haley/Payton, we've been running an offense that has more strands of the WCO in it.

Not to say Garrett will be unsuccessful... but I doubt there will be much about the scheme that is continued.

Let's hope it's more like the Zampese offense and less like the Reilly offense.

 

[zrinkill]

Uh, well, last time I checked, Jason Garrett was named the offensive coordinator.

He gets his info from that "other" board .....

 

[BLEU3ASY]

looking at the team as a whole,i think Jerry took the best option out there...offense wasn't the issue last year....the D let the team down..when Bradie James said,at times they didn't know the down and distance in one game i knew we were doomed...

.......Newman said,he could tell how they were gonna play from the pre-game warmups...IMHO thats not how i want my deffense thinking and feeling....i think Wade is gonna bring that blood in the water thinking to this defense....thats all we needed last year....we were just a couple of games away

 

[mschmidt64]

He gets his info from that "other" board .....

I'm not here to start a board war. Please don't force a discussion about the two in comparison.

 

[mschmidt64]

I'd check again. Garrett's role has never been specified - not yet. Thus far, Sparano, as assistant head coach, is the man in charge on offense.

I think it's safe to say Garrett will be the offensive coordinator. Has there been any indication that's not what we hired him for?

It just hasn't been made official yet because we've been waiting on a HC.

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

Very good hire..

AThere are coaches I like better but none that was available

 

[superpunk]

I think it's safe to say Garrett will be the offensive coordinator. Has there been any indication that's not what we hired him for?

It just hasn't been made official yet because we've been waiting on a HC.

It's safe to say that it's hardly a fact that he's been hired as an OC. Who knows what amazing title we'll come up with for him. But until we hear otherwise, Tony's the man in charge, and Jason's his right hand man. Everything else is just speculation with no real base. Our offense was resurgent last year. Sparano doesn't deserve a demotion. He's assistant head coach now, he'll remain so.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think it's safe to say Garrett will be the offensive coordinator. Has there been any indication that's not what we hired him for?

It just hasn't been made official yet because we've been waiting on a HC.

Jerry didn't deny permission from teams to demote Sparano

 

[TtownCowboy]

Luvdaboys, you may be right, but I'm not sure about that one. Hanging around a hospital for 18 years wouldn't make me a doctor. Jones has been associated with football people for a long time, but I don't see much to encourage me that he makes good football decisions. Granted, that is the opinion of another "non football guy", but I just look at the results. We have had 5 HEAD COACHES IN THE LAST 11 YEARS, and haven't won a playoff game in 10 years.

That isn't a track record that is encouraging.

I'll preface my statement w/the fact that Jerry has made some horrid decisions. That said, this is the same guy that fired the legendary Tom Landry, replaced him w/a college coach and won 2 SBs w/him, brought in one of 500 coaches (Barry Switzer) and won another SB w/him. Then screwed up w/his mingling and the Gailey Campo eras. Learned his lesson and brought in, what everybody wanted, a control freak coach and let him have his way. Which gets us to better personnel, but still 2 playoff trips and one and done. It is quite possible that Jerry has learned many lessons and is more of a "football guy" than anyone on this board. Yet day in day out he gets destroyed as the worst GM ever. Get back to me w/5 other current GMs track records that have brought in 3 championships in 17 years and the desire to win at all cost, and maybe I'll jump ship w/some of you guys.

 

[mschmidt64]

It's safe to say that it's hardly a fact that he's been hired as an OC. Who knows what amazing title we'll come up with for him. But until we hear otherwise, Tony's the man in charge, and Jason's his right hand man. Everything else is just speculation with no real base. Our offense was resurgent last year. Sparano doesn't deserve a demotion. He's assistant head coach now, he'll remain so.

Personally, I like Sparano, and I agree he doesn't deserve a demotion. The offense did a bang-up job.

In fact, I would have promoted him to head coach over the retread we just brought aboard.

But I was operating under the assumption that Garrett was a Jones favorite and was being given the OC position.

If that's not going to happen... I guess we'll find out.

 

[DLCassidy]

I'm not sure what the whining is about. Do you think SD's D was thinking "I know we led the league in sacks, but Wade's too old to be here in a decade".

People whine that we didn't go with the young guy as HC and they whine we did go with the young guy as OC. JJ can't win. If JJ had hired Alonzo Stagg Knute Vince Tom Walsh there'd be grumbling the game's passed him by and we should have taken a flier on Mike Singletary or Rivera.