Good bye Cowboys and NFL as a whole

CowboyChris

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It's been a long time coming but you finally lost me as a fan.

The SJW fit you threw was the last straw. A fake controversy dreamed up out of thin air based on media overreaction every time a criminal that happens to have a certain skin color finds the end result of fighting with cops.

Hands up don't shoot controversy based on a lie. Feeding into the rehashed communist strategy of dividing based on race and class.

It's bad enough watching college students ranting and raving about how bad they have it and every one else is privileged when they are literally the most privileged people that have ever lived. Most of them going to college for free and having never worked a day in their lives calling the hard working taxpayers that pay their bills privileged. Many of the people paying the bills couldn't afford to go to college themselves but they are supposedly the privileged ones.

So now multi millionaire athletes feel so put down that they have to make a spectacle out of the start of every game.

Wear your pink shoes, and spit on the anthem and ***** and moan about how bad the country is all you want but I won't be watching and I will never be back.

Take a knee Jerry. Remember when the NFL refused to allow you to honor the 5 dead policemen? Remember when they refused to allow Jake Plummer to wear a small sticker on the back of his helmet to honor Pat Tillman? Remember when players were fined for wearing Patriotic shoes on the anniversary of 9-11? This is the issue you want to bend the rules and allow every game to be hijacked by a protest in front of a captive audience? An issue based on lies!

I have always based on my opinion of others on their actions and character and I know there are a ton of good people in the NFL but the organization collectively has taken a side in the culture war and it will never gain me back as a fan.
I don't blame you, the game isn't what it used to be either.
 

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Oh my god. So much grandstanding, on both sides. Completely unrelated to what football and the league is all about. It's a massive distraction, and all this is doing is spreading divisiveness where none needs to exist.

It's football, not politics, and not a platform for social expression. If both sides take turns trying to agitate the other, it ends up a giant distracting cycle that accomplishes nothing.

Yes, the social issues are important to everybody. There's injustice in the world and it's important to recognize it and to fight it.

And yes, people should be proud of their freedoms and their culture and they should resent what they see as attacks on them.

The rest is football. It's supposed to be fun. It's entertainment. Don't ruin that because people can't separate it from the more important areas of their lives. Just enjoy the games and the talent and ability of the players and coaches. And, please stop acting like it's life or death.

There are more important things going on outside this weekend's games, and they deserve sympathy and attention in their own right. There are platforms for helping instead of simply expressing frustration on the internet or looking for something to be upset about. It's not about kneeling. Kneeling accomplishes nothing. If you're really upset, make an actual contribution to the worthy cause of your choice. Do it now. Don't wait. And then don't come and tell us all about it. Just do some good, and then let's get back to football just being a game and not a mirror to two or three competing versions of what people want society to be. Please. Just give it a rest.
 

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It's been a long time coming but you finally lost me as a fan.

The SJW fit you threw was the last straw. A fake controversy dreamed up out of thin air based on media overreaction every time a criminal that happens to have a certain skin color finds the end result of fighting with cops.

Hands up don't shoot controversy based on a lie. Feeding into the rehashed communist strategy of dividing based on race and class.

It's bad enough watching college students ranting and raving about how bad they have it and every one else is privileged when they are literally the most privileged people that have ever lived. Most of them going to college for free and having never worked a day in their lives calling the hard working taxpayers that pay their bills privileged. Many of the people paying the bills couldn't afford to go to college themselves but they are supposedly the privileged ones.

So now multi millionaire athletes feel so put down that they have to make a spectacle out of the start of every game.

Wear your pink shoes, and spit on the anthem and ***** and moan about how bad the country is all you want but I won't be watching and I will never be back.

Take a knee Jerry. Remember when the NFL refused to allow you to honor the 5 dead policemen? Remember when they refused to allow Jake Plummer to wear a small sticker on the back of his helmet to honor Pat Tillman? Remember when players were fined for wearing Patriotic shoes on the anniversary of 9-11? This is the issue you want to bend the rules and allow every game to be hijacked by a protest in front of a captive audience? An issue based on lies!

I have always based on my opinion of others on their actions and character and I know there are a ton of good people in the NFL but the organization collectively has taken a side in the culture war and it will never gain me back as a fan.

There's one aspect of your argument I wanted to address because, wow. I am currently receiving a college education. Based on my experiencing the amazing students around me are NOT the most privileged or entitled people. They managed to find a way to muster up enough money to pay for school one semester at a time. The majority of the students I've come across work several jobs AND take 9-15 hours of classes on the average. I am currently taking 18 hours plus independent research. This is not something we take lightly, we have to earn it. And we do it to better ourselves, to attempt to give ourselves the best opportunity to make a living and most importantly to try to understand the world around us. Because you see, college does not teach that just one perspective is always right or wrong but that there are indeed several perspectives, and each deserves reflection.

So because of this, when we see something that just doesn't seem right or seems immoral we want to find ways to improve it and move forward. We've learned life skills that allow us to help one another as we have also managed to learn compassion. This may sound elitist but it's more just about humanity. Sure, many college students are given their education on a silver plate but that's not the majority. Most understand life is a challenge and that we need to continually find ways to adapt and improve the human condition. Dramatic? Yes it is, but it's the truth. So I ask, please don't take one issue and correlate it to another. Please allow yourself to see life through the view of different perspectives. It will make you happier.
 
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It's been a long time coming but you finally lost me as a fan.

The SJW fit you threw was the last straw. A fake controversy dreamed up out of thin air based on media overreaction every time a criminal that happens to have a certain skin color finds the end result of fighting with cops.

Hands up don't shoot controversy based on a lie. Feeding into the rehashed communist strategy of dividing based on race and class.

It's bad enough watching college students ranting and raving about how bad they have it and every one else is privileged when they are literally the most privileged people that have ever lived. Most of them going to college for free and having never worked a day in their lives calling the hard working taxpayers that pay their bills privileged. Many of the people paying the bills couldn't afford to go to college themselves but they are supposedly the privileged ones.

So now multi millionaire athletes feel so put down that they have to make a spectacle out of the start of every game.

Wear your pink shoes, and spit on the anthem and ***** and moan about how bad the country is all you want but I won't be watching and I will never be back.

Take a knee Jerry. Remember when the NFL refused to allow you to honor the 5 dead policemen? Remember when they refused to allow Jake Plummer to wear a small sticker on the back of his helmet to honor Pat Tillman? Remember when players were fined for wearing Patriotic shoes on the anniversary of 9-11? This is the issue you want to bend the rules and allow every game to be hijacked by a protest in front of a captive audience? An issue based on lies!

I have always based on my opinion of others on their actions and character and I know there are a ton of good people in the NFL but the organization collectively has taken a side in the culture war and it will never gain me back as a fan.
I think you should reconsider. I don't perceive their display last night as feeding into anything. If they "protested" during the anthem, I'd agree with you but they didn't do that. Further, JJ and Garrett publicly commented on their position on the anthem "protest" situation and from my vantage point, they found a creative solution to appease all while holding to their convictions.
 

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Don't try to speak for Tillman.

You have NO right to do that.
Do a little reseach. His wife just released a statement, people close to him have commented on where he would stand on this...I am speaking for those who knew him best. It is the alt-right that is involking him and using him.

Not trying to start anything here but my man's point still remains valid and will ALWAYS remain valid. There's only one person who could answer the question, 'What would Pat Tillman do?', and that's Pat Tillman. RIP Big Guy.
 

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It's been a long time coming but you finally lost me as a fan.

The SJW fit you threw was the last straw. A fake controversy dreamed up out of thin air based on media overreaction every time a criminal that happens to have a certain skin color finds the end result of fighting with cops.

Hands up don't shoot controversy based on a lie. Feeding into the rehashed communist strategy of dividing based on race and class.

It's bad enough watching college students ranting and raving about how bad they have it and every one else is privileged when they are literally the most privileged people that have ever lived. Most of them going to college for free and having never worked a day in their lives calling the hard working taxpayers that pay their bills privileged. Many of the people paying the bills couldn't afford to go to college themselves but they are supposedly the privileged ones.

So now multi millionaire athletes feel so put down that they have to make a spectacle out of the start of every game.

Wear your pink shoes, and spit on the anthem and ***** and moan about how bad the country is all you want but I won't be watching and I will never be back.

Take a knee Jerry. Remember when the NFL refused to allow you to honor the 5 dead policemen? Remember when they refused to allow Jake Plummer to wear a small sticker on the back of his helmet to honor Pat Tillman? Remember when players were fined for wearing Patriotic shoes on the anniversary of 9-11? This is the issue you want to bend the rules and allow every game to be hijacked by a protest in front of a captive audience? An issue based on lies!

I have always based on my opinion of others on their actions and character and I know there are a ton of good people in the NFL but the organization collectively has taken a side in the culture war and it will never gain me back as a fan.

*FOLLOWING* nowo_O
:starspin: COWBOYS:starspin:
(cuz' we both know yer' a fan and that ain't gonna change:thumbup:)
 

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There's one aspect of your argument I wanted to address because, wow. I am currently receiving a college education. Based on my experiencing the amazing students around me are NOT the most privileged or entitled people. They managed to find a way to muster up enough money to pay for school one semester at a time. The majority of the students I've come across work several jobs AND take 9-15 hours of classes on the average. I am currently taking 18 hours plus independent research. This is not something we take lightly, we have to earn it. And we do it to better ourselves, to attempt to give ourselves the best opportunity to make a living and most importantly to try to understand the world around us. Because you see, college does not teach that just one perspective is always right or wrong but that there are indeed several perspectives, and each deserves reflection.

So because of this, when we see something that just doesn't seem right or seems immoral we want to find ways to improve it and move forward. We've learned life skills that allow us to help one another as we have also managed to learn compassion. This may sound elitist but it's more just about humanity. Sure, many college students are given their education on a silver plate but that's not the majority. Most understand life is a challenge and that we need to continually find ways to adapt and improve the human condition. Dramatic? Yes it is, but it's the truth. So I ask, please don't take one issue and correlate it to another. Please allow yourself to see life through the view of different perspectives. It will make you happier.
*yawn* thanks for sharingo_Oo_Oo_O
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I had no problem with how the Cowboys have handled this situation. I have no issue with the team as a whole taking a knee before the Anthem and then showing respect to the flag during the anthem. I'm not going to tell anyone else how they should feel.
 

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To all of the people saying Bye, don't come back and act like you're a Cowboys fan if they end up winning the Superbowl in the next upcoming seasons.
 

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I agree "Hands up don't shoot" was a complete lie. Even the Obama justice department cleared that shooting (and all the other high profile shootings).

The "injustice" is inner city violence and black on black crime that has been IGNORED by the media and most politicians.
 

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Oh my god. So much grandstanding, on both sides. Completely unrelated to what football and the league is all about. It's a massive distraction, and all this is doing is spreading divisiveness where none needs to exist.

It's football, not politics, and not a platform for social expression. If both sides take turns trying to agitate the other, it ends up a giant distracting cycle that accomplishes nothing.

Yes, the social issues are important to everybody. There's injustice in the world and it's important to recognize it and to fight it.

And yes, people should be proud of their freedoms and their culture and they should resent what they see as attacks on them.

The rest is football. It's supposed to be fun. It's entertainment. Don't ruin that because people can't separate it from the more important areas of their lives. Just enjoy the games and the talent and ability of the players and coaches. And, please stop acting like it's life or death.

There are more important things going on outside this weekend's games, and they deserve sympathy and attention in their own right. There are platforms for helping instead of simply expressing frustration on the internet or looking for something to be upset about. It's not about kneeling. Kneeling accomplishes nothing. If you're really upset, make an actual contribution to the worthy cause of your choice. Do it now. Don't wait. And then don't come and tell us all about it. Just do some good, and then let's get back to football just being a game and not a mirror to two or three competing versions of what people want society to be. Please. Just give it a rest.
I agree there is grandstanding on both sides but this divisiveness talk is always been bs to me. We aren't coming together anyway as a whole. You might get a day or two of togetherness for some natural disasters then it's right back to the segregated ways we mainly all live. Being that's the case for most I wish we'd all stop with this divisive talk like we are working to be together.

If it is football/sports not politics why don't we take all this stuff out including the anthem? Let's just play the games and that's it?
 

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I agree "Hands up don't shoot" was a complete lie. Even the Obama justice department cleared that shooting (and all the other high profile shootings).

The "injustice" is inner city violence and black on black crime that has been IGNORED by the media and most politicians.
Every group kills their own more than others so what is your point? Just wanted to get that out eh like it meant something. It also hasn't been ignored or people like you wouldn't know about it.
 

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"Social issues" is a pretty deep bucket.

But, yes, I also believe most of us are good people and open minded enough to want fair treatment for everybody, yes. The problems tend to come in when you start to try to define what that means.
Sort of like when your buddy asks you to help him move, then when you arrive, he hands you a to-do list :D
 
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