Goose Top 100

[Bob Sacamano]

best i remember goose said his final mock will be saturday morning;

ah, than I have probably been mistaken, you have a keen mind for these things

 

[CATCH17]

2008 top 100


Rank, player Pos. School
1. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
2. Darren McFadden HB Arkansas
3. Chris Long DE Virginia
4. Jake Long OT Michigan
5. Sedrick Ellis DT Southern California
6. Matt Ryan QB Boston College
7. Keith Rivers LB Southern California
8. Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State
9. Ryan Clady OT Boise State
10. Rashard Mendenhall HB Illinois



11. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy
12. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State
13. Derrick Harvey DE Florida
14. Devin Thomas WR Michigan State
15. Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
16. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh
17. Jonathan Stewart HB Oregon
18. Branden Albert OL Virginia
19. Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee
20. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt


Rank, player Pos. School
21. Felix Jones HB Arkansas
22. Aqib Talib CB Kansas
23. James Hardy WR Indiana
24. Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina
25. Chad Henne QB Michigan
26. Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College
27. DeSean Jackson WR California
28. Phillip Merling DE Clemson
29. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
30. Quentin Groves DE Auburn


31. Dustin Keller TE Purdue
32. Curtis Lofton LB Oklahoma
33. Kenny Phillips S Miami
34. Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
35. Tyrell Johnson S Arkansas State
36. Jamaal Charles HB Texas
37. Joe Flacco QB Delaware
38. Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech
39. Limas Sweed WR Texas
40. Fred Davis TE Southern California



41. Chris Johnson HB East Carolina
42. Lawrence Jackson DE Southern California
43. Donnie Avery WR Houston
44. Kevin Smith HB Central Florida
45. Antoine Cason CB Arizona
46. Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M
47. Dan Connor LB Penn State
48. Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State
49. Anthony Collins OT Kansas
50. Tracy Porter CB Indiana



51. Sam Baker OL Southern California
52. Justin King CB Penn State
53. Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
54. Chilo Rachal G Southern California
55. DaJuan Morgan S North Carolina State
56. Duane Brown OL Virginia Tech
57. John Carlson TE Notre Dame
58. Eddie Royal WR Virginia Tech
59. Calais Campbell DE Miami
60. Oneil Cousins OL UTEP



61. Bryan Kehl OLB BYU
62. Brad Cottam TE Tennessee
63. Mike Pollak C Arizona State
64. Andre Caldwell WR Florida
65. Patrick Lee CB Auburn
66. Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest
67. Jason Jones DL Eastern Michigan
68. Charles Godfrey CB Iowa
69. Matt Forté HB Tulane
70. Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt



71. Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
72. Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
73. Tavares Gooden MLB Miami
74. Ray Rice HB Rutgers
75. Jordon Dizon OLB Colorado
76. Chevis Jackson CB LSU
77. Early Doucet WR LSU
78. Reggie Smith S Oklahoma
79. Cliff Avril DE Purdue
80. Terrell Thomas CB Southern California



81. Craig Stevens TE California
82. Jerome Simpson WR Coastal Carolina
83. Orlando Scandrick CB Boise State
84. Pat Sims DT Auburn
85. John David Booty QB Southern California
86. Andre Fluellen DT Florida State
87. John Greco OL Toledo
88. Antwaun Molden CB Eastern Kentucky
89. Jeremy Zuttah OL Rutgers
90. Joseph Bryant DT Texas A&M



91. Tyvon Branch S Connecticut
92. Keenan Burton WR Kentucky
93. Jacob Hester FB LSU
94. Tashard Choice HB Georgia Tech
95. Dre Moore DT Maryland
96. Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado
97. Chaun Washington HB Southern California
98. Kendall Langford DE Hampton
99. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
100. Xavier Adibi OLB Virginia Tech

 

[Woods]

best i remember goose said his final mock will be saturday morning;

Actually, now that I think about it, I think that's what Goose does.

The mock is the morning right before the Draft.

That said, I think what he's really good at is his Top 100.

 

[Woods]

2008 top 100


Rank, player Pos. School
1. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
2. Darren McFadden HB Arkansas
3. Chris Long DE Virginia
4. Jake Long OT Michigan
5. Sedrick Ellis DT Southern California
6. Matt Ryan QB Boston College
7. Keith Rivers LB Southern California
8. Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State
9. Ryan Clady OT Boise State
10. Rashard Mendenhall HB Illinois



11. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy
12. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State
13. Derrick Harvey DE Florida
14. Devin Thomas WR Michigan State
15. Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
16. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh
17. Jonathan Stewart HB Oregon
18. Branden Albert OL Virginia
19. Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee
20. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt


Rank, player Pos. School
21. Felix Jones HB Arkansas
22. Aqib Talib CB Kansas
23. James Hardy WR Indiana
24. Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina
25. Chad Henne QB Michigan
26. Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College
27. DeSean Jackson WR California
28. Phillip Merling DE Clemson
29. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
30. Quentin Groves DE Auburn


31. Dustin Keller TE Purdue
32. Curtis Lofton LB Oklahoma
33. Kenny Phillips S Miami
34. Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
35. Tyrell Johnson S Arkansas State
36. Jamaal Charles HB Texas
37. Joe Flacco QB Delaware
38. Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech
39. Limas Sweed WR Texas
40. Fred Davis TE Southern California



41. Chris Johnson HB East Carolina
42. Lawrence Jackson DE Southern California
43. Donnie Avery WR Houston
44. Kevin Smith HB Central Florida
45. Antoine Cason CB Arizona
46. Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M
47. Dan Connor LB Penn State
48. Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State
49. Anthony Collins OT Kansas
50. Tracy Porter CB Indiana



51. Sam Baker OL Southern California
52. Justin King CB Penn State
53. Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
54. Chilo Rachal G Southern California
55. DaJuan Morgan S North Carolina State
56. Duane Brown OL Virginia Tech
57. John Carlson TE Notre Dame
58. Eddie Royal WR Virginia Tech
59. Calais Campbell DE Miami
60. Oneil Cousins OL UTEP



61. Bryan Kehl OLB BYU
62. Brad Cottam TE Tennessee
63. Mike Pollak C Arizona State
64. Andre Caldwell WR Florida
65. Patrick Lee CB Auburn
66. Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest
67. Jason Jones DL Eastern Michigan
68. Charles Godfrey CB Iowa
69. Matt Forté HB Tulane
70. Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt



71. Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
72. Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
73. Tavares Gooden MLB Miami
74. Ray Rice HB Rutgers
75. Jordon Dizon OLB Colorado
76. Chevis Jackson CB LSU
77. Early Doucet WR LSU
78. Reggie Smith S Oklahoma
79. Cliff Avril DE Purdue
80. Terrell Thomas CB Southern California



81. Craig Stevens TE California
82. Jerome Simpson WR Coastal Carolina
83. Orlando Scandrick CB Boise State
84. Pat Sims DT Auburn
85. John David Booty QB Southern California
86. Andre Fluellen DT Florida State
87. John Greco OL Toledo
88. Antwaun Molden CB Eastern Kentucky
89. Jeremy Zuttah OL Rutgers
90. Joseph Bryant DT Texas A&M



91. Tyvon Branch S Connecticut
92. Keenan Burton WR Kentucky
93. Jacob Hester FB LSU
94. Tashard Choice HB Georgia Tech
95. Dre Moore DT Maryland
96. Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado
97. Chaun Washington HB Southern California
98. Kendall Langford DE Hampton
99. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
100. Xavier Adibi OLB Virginia Tech

Look at the players in bold.

It looks like we did really well last year (and we'll know for sure in a couple years), but no wonder!

 

[irvin4evs]

His top 100 isn't his personal ranking so much as it is where he thinks people will go, IIRC. I don't the guy ever claimed to do anything but relay info from scouts.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Look at the players in bold.

It looks like we did really well last year (and we'll know for sure in a couple years), but no wonder!

I can't remember what grade he gave us, last year, do you?

I do know he puts a ridiculous amount of emphasis on late-round picks. We could draft Troy Aikman, Demarcus Ware, and Larry Allen in the first three rounds, but if we "reached" with our sixth and seventh, he'd give us a C-.

Edit, I just looked it up, and he gave us a B after the draft, but revised that to a C just couple of months ago. Tool.

 

[irvin4evs]

He REVISED it to a C?

 

[Spectre]

Look at the players in bold.

It looks like we did really well last year (and we'll know for sure in a couple years), but no wonder!

Or it looks like Dallas had a big copy of Goose'a top 100 in the war room...


According to his 100, my boy Mckinley can be had in the 4th or later. Someone's gonna strike gold for that value. I hope it's us. Or we at least get Mike Thomas or Jarett Dillard.... but we probably won't...


we'll just get another TE.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Or it looks like Dallas had a big copy of Goose'a top 100 in the war room...


2 of my 3 favorite (and available) WRs aren't listed in his top 100.
Someone's gonna strike gold w/ Kenny Mckinley and possibly Jarett Dillard if they can be had after the 3rd round. Hopefully it will be us...
it probably won't.


we'll just get another TE.

I wouldn't rule him out, Dallas has spoken to him in some length

 

[SLATEmosphere]

35. Louis Delmas S Western Michigan

51. Patrick Chung S Oregon

About right.

Goose>>>>>>NFLDS

 

[SLATEmosphere]

DJ Moore not in the top 100

the ****?

looks like it may be

51. Chung
69. Casey
me. Jump for joy

:ralph: :ralph:

 

[Woods]

I can't remember what grade he gave us, last year, do you?

I do know he puts a ridiculous amount of emphasis on late-round picks. We could draft Troy Aikman, Demarcus Ware, and Larry Allen in the first three rounds, but if we "reached" with our sixth and seventh, he'd give us a C-.

Edit, I just looked it up, and he gave us a B after the draft, but revised that to a C just couple of months ago. Tool.

The way it looks right now, that draft was an A.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

35. Louis Delmas S Western Michigan

51. Patrick Chung S Oregon

About right.

Goose>>>>>>NFLDS

oh well, as long as Chung will be a Dallas Cowboy...

 

[Shinywalrus]

Let me just imagine for a second that Larry English at 51 and Michael Johnson at 69 is possible.

Maybe I just have an unhealthy obsession with getting good linebackers in here. And maybe I'm pretty sure Greg Ellis is going to need to be directed to the unemployment line here pretty soon.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Let me just imagine for a second that Larry English at 51 and Michael Johnson at 69 is possible.

Maybe I just have an unhealthy obsession with getting good linebackers in here. And maybe I'm pretty sure Greg Ellis is going to need to be directed to the unemployment line here pretty soon.

I'd pull my pants down if we got English at 51.

 

[AmishCowboy]

We have a shot at Chung or Brace at 51, cool!.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah Irvs, check it out:

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/d...ries/011109dnsponflrookiesreview.3794693.html

Of course, he apparently weighs heavily how much the rooks played. So KC got an A+ and Pittsburgh got an F. Shows you the way this fool thinks.

Anyway... I still think Brinkley is undervalued, apparently even by the pros. I guess they're going off tape from when he was heavier, but if he keeps his weight under 250, I think he has great potential. Maybe I'm just wrong, but I think someone will get a steal.

 

[AdamJT13]

I can't remember what grade he gave us, last year, do you?

I do know he puts a ridiculous amount of emphasis on late-round picks. We could draft Troy Aikman, Demarcus Ware, and Larry Allen in the first three rounds, but if we "reached" with our sixth and seventh, he'd give us a C-.

That's not quite what he does. He simply averages his point values for the players you drafted, and the higher your average, the higher your grade.

That sounds reasonable, until you realize the OBVIOUS point that it's entirely dependent upon where your draft picks are. If you have a lot of high picks, you're going to have a higher average even if you reach on every pick. If you don't pick in the first four rounds but get steals with all of your picks in the fifth, sixth and seventh, you're still going to have a very low average.

I expect Goose to give us a truly terrible draft grade this season -- even if we get great value for every pick. We don't draft until No. 51, and we have a ton of second-day picks, so our average player value is going to be very low.

On the other hand, Buffalo or Denver could reach with both of their first-round picks, then trade the rest of their picks for Joe Berger and still get an "A" from Goose because they'd have a very high average for the two players they picked. Never mind that they did a terrible job with the picks they had.

 

[BAT]

Yeah Irvs, check it out:

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/d...ries/011109dnsponflrookiesreview.3794693.html

Of course, he apparently weighs heavily how much the rooks played. So KC got an A+ and Pittsburgh got an F. Shows you the way this fool thinks.

Anyway... I still think Brinkley is undervalued, apparently even by the pros. I guess they're going off tape from when he was heavier, but if he keeps his weight under 250, I think he has great potential. Maybe I'm just wrong, but I think someone will get a steal.

It could be due to his lack of instincts. Even with his good 40 time, he doesn't have that explosive first step. Even before he got injured, he was still rated a 2 down player. He is physical and great straight line speed, but he does not read and recognize plays that great so tends to react rather than attack. He will knock the snot out of you when he gets a head of steam though.

 

[slotshot]

Brown, Beatty, English and Robiskie will be either available or within easy striking distance (supposedly)??

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!