Goose's Updated NFL Draft Rankings (Top 5 at each Position)

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Zaxor said:
Isn't Winston more of a RT?

My reasoning on Justice is that I have seen him projected as both a LT and a RT and if he can play both... might make a good swing man till he is ready to start...

but if I was just looking for a RT yeah I think Winston would be the guy

It's annoying that the two guys share the name "Winston"- makes it confusing to talk about. Not sure if this is the case with you, but Eric Winston's college experience is at LT and Winston Justice's has been at RT. Now Justice could probably make the switch, he was probably at RT because that's Leinart's blind side. But I really don't see any problem at all with Eric Winston playing RT either. My ideal draft is trading down to the bottom of the first and take Eric Winston and then trading up to the top of the 2nd to take Carpenter. I think Eric Winston could be plugged in at LG for a year or two and be Fabini's backup at RT. That would be a pretty solid, deep and flexible OL at that point. As Rack said, I like what I hear from Eric Winston. He wants to be a Cowboy, said he'd be willing to play guard if they took him (I wonder if they ASKED him that question- he didn't say).
 

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Zaxor said:
This is the guy that I think has a little something to him and will probably win more SBs than any of the other QBs on this list...but I have been wrong before:)

I think he does too- but he can't seem to stay healthy. Durability in a QB is very high on my list of qualities I look for which is why I'm leary of Croyle.
 

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jlust22 said:
DEFENSIVE TACKLE

1. Brodrick Bunkley, Florida State
2. Haloti Ngata, Oregon
3. John McCargo, North Carolina State
4. Claude Wroten, LSU
5. Gabe Watson, Michigan


Interesting he has Ngata below Bunkley. Also surprised to see Watson 5th, although I have seen recently where McCargo's stock has been rising.

Wroten is up there, but he had slid due to off field problems. Without those issues he would be a legit first rounder.
 

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JIMMYBUFFETT said:
Favre like may have been exaggerating it a bit , but I don't have him mixed up and he does have a cannon for an arm . The first two draft boards I looked at had this to say about him .

http://www.draftace.com/profiles/2006/brodie_croyle.htm

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/brodiecroyle.html

If anything the kid is knocked for being too much of a gun slinger that thinks he can make that throw into double coverage . That and a bad history of injuries .
During the combine one of the biggest ? was his arm and could he make all of the throws they commented on this while he was throwing on the NFL network during his workout. I think he has enough arm strength to play in the NFL but to say he has a cannon is just flat out not the case his arm strenght has been in question his entire carrer in college.
 

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lkelly said:
Can someone explain the love affair with Croyle? Wasn't Alabama's offense one of the worst in major conference football last season? I understand he's popular with the Crimson Tide faithful, but shouldn't there be more production out of the position in your last year?

In half his games he didn't eclipse the 200 yard mark, and in 4 of them he didn't throw a TD.

Not exactly a gun for an arm, either.

I don't know if I would call it a love affair and I tend to be partial toward the Vols...and I also only seen like 4 of the games but if you watch him you just...hmmm I really don't know..he just has something to him...sorry I realize that answer sucks but it is all I got at the moment
 

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DLCassidy said:
I think he does too- but he can't seem to stay healthy. Durability in a QB is very high on my list of qualities I look for which is why I'm leary of Croyle.
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Agreed...he does no one any good on the sidelines...But I just might take a flyer on the guy in the 3rd or 4th if he lasts that long
 

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D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland

D’Qwell Jackson LB 6’ 228 Maryland
By: Robert Davis

D’Qwell Jackson has been a standout since his freshman season at Maryland. As a freshman he wracked up 51 tackles on the season. As a sophomore, he was named All ACC after finishing with 136 tackles, 7.5 for loss, 2.5 sacks, and two interceptions. Jackson again earned a All ACC after posting 123 tackles, 7 for loss, four sacks, and two interceptions on the season. His numbers did not fall off at all as a senior. Jackson became a 3 time All ACC performer after finishing with 137 tackles, 6.5 for loss, four sacks, and two interceptions.

D’Qwell is one of the better all around linebackers in the draft. He has a nose for the football in all aspects. He can drop into coverage, rush the passer, and get into the backfield to stuff the run. He has excellent game speed and lateral agility to make plays sideline to sideline. He is a true leader, and difference maker on the field.

Jackson’s size stands out as a weakness. During Senior Bowl week, he measured in at 6' 228.. That may necessitate a move from the inside to the weakside in the NFL. It also can cause him to be engulfed by lineman when moving towards the line of scrimmage.

Aside from pure size, Jackson has it all. If he were 6’3 240, he’s every bit as hyped as A.J. Hawk of Ohio St and would be a Top 20 lock. Even with his lack of size, he is an excellent prospect, and should hear his name called in the first two rounds.
 

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DLCassidy said:
It's annoying that the two guys share the name "Winston"- makes it confusing to talk about. Not sure if this is the case with you, but Eric Winston's college experience is at LT and Winston Justice's has been at RT. Now Justice could probably make the switch, he was probably at RT because that's Leinart's blind side. But I really don't see any problem at all with Eric Winston playing RT either. My ideal draft is trading down to the bottom of the first and take Eric Winston and then trading up to the top of the 2nd to take Carpenter. I think Eric Winston could be plugged in at LG for a year or two and be Fabini's backup at RT. That would be a pretty solid, deep and flexible OL at that point. As Rack said, I like what I hear from Eric Winston. He wants to be a Cowboy, said he'd be willing to play guard if they took him (I wonder if they ASKED him that question- he didn't say).

Wouldn't it be nice to have both guys named Winston, and hopefully end some of the OL issues for a while ?

I would suggest getting Winston Justice @ 18 because I think Fabini is a stop gap 1-2 year BP guy who is on the decline. Most of the guys that BP has brought in here, are just that -- BP guys who get 1-2 years. I would move WJ in as backup RT (like he played in college) and expect him to be starting next year.

Drafting Eric Winston (or for that matter Johnathon Scott, McNeill, or several others) makes even more sense in the 2-3 round. Petitti was a LT in college, and could move back over there, or he has the size to move inside as a backup guard for Kosier. I'd move Peterson to the right side to backup Rivera. Either way, in the 2-3 round, you could pick up the nastiest guard or tackle to strengthen the line for years to come.

I know that SOLB is the biggest need and many here would like them to draft Lawson in the first. I like him, but you already have one extremely young OLB on the other side, and the mistakes made by him were pretty bad last year. What happens if he hits the sophomore slump, and you only have a rookie on the other side? It could derail this whole defense.

IMO, they should sign Arrington (big money but short term-3 years). That way they would have a known product that they know can get to the QB. Burnett will need at least another 2 years to get to starting quality due to his injuries. Arrington/Burnett @ SOLB and Ware/Thorton @ WOLB is a pretty good group -- possibly exceptional if healthy.

Then, if they really think they are close, then sign big Sam Adams for 2 years. He would provide a backup for Ferguson, and development time for Pepper Johnson. Cut him year 2 if Johnson develops, or he doesn't work out.

The team would have solid backups, everywhere, and solid starters.
They would still need to address FS, but they could do that in the 2-3 round as well. They didn't lose their starting FS (Davis), so he could play there till the younger player developed as well. Coleman might be available if they still don't feel comfortable. I think the FS's job gets much easier if they can get a rush from both sides.

WR depth, LB depth, flyer on a QB/DE tweener, any could be addressed on Day 2.

Of course, it is easy to play air-chair GM.
 

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Croyle - Strongest arm of first day QB's. If anyone is close it's Cutler, but it's not that close. 2 ACL's is scary.

Winston Justice has a soliciting a prostitute issue too to go along with the bb gun thing.

Eric Winston is no choir boy but he had people in the right places to make things go away.

I'll take him or Joseph in a trade down.
 

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Rush 2112 said:
Croyle - Strongest arm of first day QB's. If anyone is close it's Cutler, but it's not that close. 2 ACL's is scary.

Winston Justice has a soliciting a prostitute issue too to go along with the bb gun thing.

Eric Winston is no choir boy but he had people in the right places to make things go away.

I'll take him or Joseph in a trade down.
Where is this coming from certainly not from seeing him play Cutler is way ahead of him in arm strength.
 
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