Gosselin: Injuries are no excuse for another mediocre Dallas Cowboys season

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This is where you just don't get it!!You aren't playing to make them score 6. You are playing to run clock and win whether its by 1 or 50. You take the best means to get there. How do you stop a team from beating themselves...take it out of their hands...kneel and punt. Heck, even a kneel and your theory of 6 is better. Either way, many mistakes were made. And by the way, execution is taught by coaches. You drill discipline and repetition into their heads. The coach I ultimately responsible for all of the above.

When a team is ripping off yards you sure as hell want them to have to go the length of the field for a TD as opposed to 30-40 yards for a FG to tie, because OT would most likely be a loss.

And you and I both know that had we took a knee and punted and they tied it and won in OT you'd be killing Garrett over not going for the win and playing not to lose.
 

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When a team is ripping off yards you sure as hell want them to have to go the length of the field for a TD as opposed to 30-40 yards for a FG to tie, because OT would most likely be a loss.

And you and I both know that had we took a knee and punted and they tied it and won in OT you'd be killing Garrett over not going for the win and playing not to lose.

No, I wouldn't because in that situation they STILL had a chance to win and blew it. Look at what you just said above.."because OT would most likely be a loss." Why? We might get the ball first. You don't know that with new OT rules. If you have them inside the 20 with 20-25 seconds left they are having to go a little over 40 yards with no timeouts just to tie it. AND they'd be playing for a tie and have no chance at a win in regulation. Even if he hits Calvin with a 20 yarder in the field of play they most likely will have a hard time getting off more than one more play and then setting up the FG. In the other scenario you are giving them 50 seconds. If you wanted to make sure to waste time and get your 6 you should have kneeled. In all of these scenarios the wrong calls were made. In all of them a coaches goal is running clock and a W no matter the points. It wasn't done correctly. Plain and simple. It is a Garrett hallmark for 3 years now that has kept us out of the playoffs.
 

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When a team is ripping off yards you sure as hell want them to have to go the length of the field for a TD as opposed to 30-40 yards for a FG to tie, because OT would most likely be a loss.

And you and I both know that had we took a knee and punted and they tied it and won in OT you'd be killing Garrett over not going for the win and playing not to lose.

No No No, first of all it wasn´t 30 yards, more like 55 (from their 10 to our 35) or at least 45 if they started at their 20 , second of all the difference is you have more than a minute to get 80 yards or you have 20 to get 50, what choice do you take? And assuming that miracle happens they tie the game and you still have a chance in OT, you cannot assume we were going to lose if that were the case.

And he couldn´t have gone for the win on a 3rd and 14, he needed to let the clock run, that´s all there´s to it and he couldn´t do it.
 

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That's why I always want someone with skins on the wall to come here. I just think an unproven coach will fail here before he even starts. The Cowboys are always at a disadvantage compared to other teams.

This has been my point from the beginning, is my point now, and will always be my point until Jerry passes or relinquishes ownership.
 

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8-8 is not mediocre. It's average.

Tough to say that injuries are not an excuse. FootballOutsiders.com has researched this quite extensively and in general, the teams that fare best in a season....tend to have far few injuries.

YR

So success in the NFL is mostly down to luck?
 

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So success in the NFL is mostly down to luck?

Mostly?

No.

But a big part of it is.

But I also believe that there is a way coaches coach and train players that prevent injuries. I don't recall a lot of injuries in the years that Walsh, Parcells, Gibbs, etc. were coaching.

I know that when Parcells was here he not only had the mantra of 'you can't make the club if you're in the tub', but he would put players thru *rigorous* workouts if they were not practicing because of injury. They would simply workout the parts of the body that weren't injured. It was exhaustive just watching it and it sent the message that you would be better off practicing and playing while hurt than you would be on the sideline doing those rigorous workouts.

And you can't tell me that all of those hamstring injuries were just 'bad luck.' I think there is something with training that is askew.







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Offense: Romo's performance wasn't up to par this year, could've been his back problems were present all year long.

Defense: Stupefying choice to change defensive schemes given our personnel + ridiculous number of DL injuries + DL neglect in offseason by GM

Blaming it all on injuries wouldn't be correct, but it was a major factor.
 

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So that brings up the question: If Ryan is sooo good, what was his excuse last year?
 

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And you can't tell me that all of those hamstring injuries were just 'bad luck.' I think there is something with training that is askew.

YR

This I agree with, given that we have "one of the best in the business" in Woicek I'm wandering if we are still training the same and haven't adapted to the practice limitations of the new CBA. I think we should take a look at the "sports science" like Kelly is using in Philly.
 

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Even with all of our injuries, we had a talented enough offense to put games away by running the ball in a more balanced way. Instead, Garrett abandoned the run and gave the other team a chance to get back in the game. He did this consistently even after admitting that they were wrong to do it and could've run more. Game after game, time after time. He isn't learning on the job, he is trying to show everyone how right he is for becoming pass-dependent in the 2nd half of games. For this alone he should have been fired at the end of the season. He lost us 2 or more games employing this philosophy with all of the injuries we had. We still should've closed out the season no worse than 10-6.
 

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He had 7 tackles in 5 games with the Bears, we didn´t lose much by him not playing.

Point taken, but would Ratliff have been ready much earlier in the season if there weren't issues behind the scenes?

At this point we have no idea how badly the guy was hurt... or what sort of rehab he was doing or not doing on his own since it didn't seem to be monitored (or allowed to be monitored) by the Cowboys' training staff.
 
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Mostly?

No.

But a big part of it is.

But I also believe that there is a way coaches coach and train players that prevent injuries. I don't recall a lot of injuries in the years that Walsh, Parcells, Gibbs, etc. were coaching.

I know that when Parcells was here he not only had the mantra of 'you can't make the club if you're in the tub', but he would put players thru *rigorous* workouts if they were not practicing because of injury. They would simply workout the parts of the body that weren't injured. It was exhaustive just watching it and it sent the message that you would be better off practicing and playing while hurt than you would be on the sideline doing those rigorous workouts.

And you can't tell me that all of those hamstring injuries were just 'bad luck.' I think there is something with training that is askew.

YR

So, injuries do impact a team's success, but injuries (or at least some of them) can be prevented by coaching? So we are back to coaching being the problem? Maybe that's right. Would Parcells have let Austin milk that hamstring as long as he did?
 

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Collinsworth commented during the Philly game that Jerry would take any excuse to keep Garrett. He is Jerry's pet project and it will hurt him immensely the day he has to fire him.

Yeah, I remember that. The only owner in the NFL that makes it so obvious and probably only one that is that stupid, especially considering the fragile nature of his QB right now.
 

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Gosselin: Injuries are no excuse for another mediocre Dallas Cowboys season


RICK GOSSELIN

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Published: 07 January 2014 10:50 PM

Updated: 08 January 2014 12:07 AM

Injuries can be an explanation for the mediocrity of the Cowboys in 2013.

But not an excuse.

Injuries are part of football, and the Cowboys certainly suffered their share. Every team did, in fact. The NFL lost a record 1,600 games by starters because of injury this season, including a record 861 on offense.

The Cowboys lost 62 of the games, including the pass rush of Anthony Spencer for 15 of them. But other teams were battered by injuries — even more critical injuries — yet played on into January.

The New Orleans Saints lost 61 games by starters, including a league-high 53 on defense. Two projected starters in new coordinator Rob Ryan’s 3-4 scheme — end Will Smith and inside linebacker Jonathan Vilma — never played a down because of injuries.

Yet the Saints still finished with a top-five defense, posted an 11-5 record and won an opening-round playoff game last weekend.

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Read the rest: http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...or-another-mediocre-dallas-cowboys-season.ece

The Garrett fanboys (all 3 of them left) are not going to like this article too much.

I have been told repeatedly by them that no team in the league could even be competitive with the amount of injuries we have had, that it is a testament to Garrett that we were not blown out every week...................LOL

Like the article says, injuries are part of the game and some teams overcome them and some teams use them as excuses.................4 yrs worth of excuses in Garrett's case...................HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

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The Garrett fanboys (all 3 of them left) are not going to like this article too much.

I have been told repeatedly by them that no team in the league could even be competitive with the amount of injuries we have had, that it is a testament to Garrett that we were not blown out every week...................LOL

Like the article says, injuries are part of the game and some teams overcome them and some teams use them as excuses.................4 yrs worth of excuses in Garrett's case...................HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Gosselin is an idiot, but I guess that changes based on the old agenda huh?

But the posting of it as proof does say a lot about that agenda.
 

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Gosselin: Injuries are no excuse for another mediocre Dallas Cowboys season


RICK GOSSELIN

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rgosselin@***BANNED-URL***

Published: 07 January 2014 10:50 PM

Updated: 08 January 2014 12:07 AM

Injuries can be an explanation for the mediocrity of the Cowboys in 2013.

But not an excuse.

Injuries are part of football, and the Cowboys certainly suffered their share. Every team did, in fact. The NFL lost a record 1,600 games by starters because of injury this season, including a record 861 on offense.

The Cowboys lost 62 of the games, including the pass rush of Anthony Spencer for 15 of them. But other teams were battered by injuries — even more critical injuries — yet played on into January.

The New Orleans Saints lost 61 games by starters, including a league-high 53 on defense. Two projected starters in new coordinator Rob Ryan’s 3-4 scheme — end Will Smith and inside linebacker Jonathan Vilma — never played a down because of injuries.

Yet the Saints still finished with a top-five defense, posted an 11-5 record and won an opening-round playoff game last weekend.

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Read the rest: http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...or-another-mediocre-dallas-cowboys-season.ece

Being the President of the North American Man Boy Love Association is not an excuse for Gosselin being a terrible reporter.
 

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This. Say whatever you want about his situation with Jerry or ability or non-ability to effect things off the field, but we have specific data points over 3 years of coaching showing at numerous times simply inexcusable game day mis-management. Jerry doesn't call down and tell Jason to run the ball 7 times the rest of the game with a 23 point lead.

He may be a good coach someday, but I doubt it and I'm positive it won't be here. This team has too many holes to go anywhere next year either and the experiment will thankfully end. But in no way does Garrett get a pass IMO because he happens to work for an egomaniacal lunatic, his mistakes were his own.

And that's why I say he isn't a good coach. His on the field decisions are awful.
 

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So, injuries do impact a team's success, but injuries (or at least some of them) can be prevented by coaching? So we are back to coaching being the problem? Maybe that's right. Would Parcells have let Austin milk that hamstring as long as he did?

You won't find me defending Garrett much anytime soon.

Also, with all of this passing it only makes it more likely for hamstring injuries and defensive injuries to occur.

We know that historically defensive players are more than twice as likely to get injured than offensive players. So by throwing the ball non-stop the defense is only like to have more injuries. And we know that when you throw the ball it means the WR's have to do more running which means the likelihood of hamstring pulls to occur will increase.





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I've come to the conclusion it's really impossible to judge Jason Garrett. True, he's shown nothing to indicate he's a quality NFL head coach. Several coaches fired last week could coach him under the table. Many high school coaches appear to have a better grasp of what to do with timeouts and managing the end of a half better than Garrett does.

But to dismiss the Jones factor is foolish. No HC is going to succeed when someone else is deciding: who the coordinators who are, the system the defense will run, which players will play, what players are on the roster, whether or not the offensive gameplan will feature running, who is in the lockeroom berating injured players or giving pep talks, and so forth. Or goes on the radio or TV constantly to remind everyone who is in charge, and what the strat for next weeks game should be. Or comes down to the sidelines to tell him who to take out of the game.

My belief? Jason Garrett is absolutely miserable. He looks like a zombie on the sidelines and in press conferences. The last place he wants to be is coaching in Dallas as the pseudo head coach, while Jerry Jones is the walk-around head coach. He'd love nothing more than to get out of Dallas and get an assistant job elsewhere.

Why doesn't he just walk away, then? Because most people can't (or wouldn't be able to, given the opportunity) bring themselves to walk away from a salary that is probably in the neighborhood of $5M a year. He was probably praying that Jones would fire him.

As Jimmy Johnson said a couple years ago, Jerry Jones fancies himself the head coach. Garrett handles the little things Jerry doesn't want to fool with while he's busy promoting concerts, bowl games, boxing matches, making commercials, etc. Since Garrett isn't really a head coach, Jones doesn't really evaluate him as such either. Really, there's no way to evaluate Garrett any better than it was any of the long line of sad sacks fired by Al Davis.
 
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