Gosselin's 1st Mock

[Gfunk]

it takes time for rookie WRs to develop, and considering your two starting WRs are on the other side of 30, it's a possibility​

 

[Tuna Helper]

I've been away for a long time, but how in the hell did Joseph Addai (LSU)suddenly get into the first round of the draft?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

While I like Chad Jackson better, Santonio Homes would be a very legit threat next to TO and Glenn... atop that he is outstanding in the return game.

No doubt he'd be a fantastic addition, but not really the player I would project or hope we pick at 18.

 

[cowboyuptx]

I would say its a definite possibility depending on how the draft falls...Owens is 32, Glenn is 31 and last yr was only the 3rd time in his career that he's played 16 games...behind them there isnt much of anything, as Crayton looked like a 4th or 5th WR at best after he returned from injury

I think Santonio Holmes would be more of a possibility than Chad Jackson if both were available because he has great speed and big play ability plus he is a potentially great return guy...with the 18th pick it very well could be he would be the player that presents the best value because he fills the 3rd WR role, he is good insurance should Glenn or Owens get injured and he has real value as a return guy...people have to remember you dont just draft players for NOW, you are also drafting for the future...anybody that believes that Owens and Glenn are here for the long haul are kidding themselves

David

I agree, this pick is totally plausible.

As you said, Glenn has a history riddled with injuries and he'll be 32 soon.....

not to mention he's due a $5 million roster bonus next year........

IMO it's highly unlikely he'll be around to collect on that.

Parcells drafted Glenn at #7, Holmes is practically the same player (both buckeyes) and if he could be had at #18, I could see Bill taking him.

It's not my dream pick, but the value in this draft is all in the later rounds anyway.

 

[Chrissyboy]

The goose got this one all cooked up! No way we take WR in 1st. If this is truly an attempt at SB then WR will in no way help this team this season.

I know he has the best averages of all draftknicks ever.......etc..... but not even close on this one.

Ps - I will also be really disappointed.

 

[THUMPER]

Selecting a WR in the 1st round this year would be a bust for us. None of the WRs in this class excite me in the least and IMO none are worthy of 1st round consideration.

There are WAY too many other holes we need to fill before reaching on a WR this year. Lots of LBs and OTs still on the board that we could take in his mock that would help us a whole lot more than a WR who will take a few years to develop and will rarely se the field anyway.

No thanks.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

From PFT --

SAINTS GENUINELY INTERESTED IN LEINART

Although our initial reaction to the news that quarterback Matt Leinart will be visiting the Saints was that Leinart's people are merely trying to coax the Titans to trade up in order to get him, a league source tells us that the Saints genuinely are interested in Leinart, and could select him with the No. 2 overall pick.

New Saints coach Sean Payton, we're told, regards Leinart as a legitimate franchise quarterback. And many guys around the league believe that, if a team can get a franchise quarterback at the top of the draft, the team should jump on him.

Of course, whether the guy actually pans out remains to be seen. Over the years, the success rate of first-round signal-callers is 50 percent, at best.

Most people assumed that the Saints would not draft a quarterback at No. 2, since New Orleans signed quarterback Drew Brees last month to a big-money, multi-year deal. But a $12 million option bonus that comes due next March could make the Brees deal a one-year, $10 million arrangement, especially if he's unable to fully and adequately recover for a shoulder injury.

Leinart also is an attractive option for the franchise, if the Saints are sold and moved to Los Angeles. We've recently heard that, despite all of the warm and fuzzies of late between the NFL and New Orleans, the Saints could be gone as soon as 2007.

Again, this is PFT. If I was an NFL Exec, I could tell them that Matt Leinart throws right handed, and they'd believe me.


Rich..........

 

[MissionCoach]

I thought I recalled something about Gosselin doing several mock drafts, with his last, which is right before draft day...being the one he thinks will be most accuracte.

Can anyone confirmm this?

 

[theogt]

I thought I recalled something about Gosselin doing several mock drafts, with his last, which is right before draft day...being the one he thinks will be most accuracte.

Can anyone confirmm this?

That's what everyone does.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I thought I recalled something about Gosselin doing several mock drafts, with his last, which is right before draft day...being the one he thinks will be most accuracte.

Can anyone confirmm this?

You are correct.

His most accurate is the one either the day before or the morning of the draft.

 

[dbair1967]

Selecting a WR in the 1st round this year would be a bust for us. None of the WRs in this class excite me in the least and IMO none are worthy of 1st round consideration.

There are WAY too many other holes we need to fill before reaching on a WR this year. Lots of LBs and OTs still on the board that we could take in his mock that would help us a whole lot more than a WR who will take a few years to develop and will rarely se the field anyway.

No thanks.

how do you know it'd be a bust pick? its just as easy we pick some other position and that player would be a bust...what if we take a Lawson type player at 18 and he cant figure out how to play OLB in the 3-4?

if WR is the highest rated player they have on the board when our pick comes up and we cant trade down (assuming they want to) then they should pick a WR...

that said, I agree that OL is the single biggest issue remaining on the team...if they cant pass protect and run block better than last yr we'll be sitting home come playoff time again regardless of what moves we have made or will make via free agency or the draft

David

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I personally would rather us take Carpenter/lawson or another position at 18.

However I could see a reason for Holmes.

I think he will be a good WR and at worst his first year he will get a few plays at WR to learn the position but should be an immediate threat on ST.

We have two older WRs starting with contracts that make it possible they may only be here one or two years.

Terry Glenn has had many more seasons missing games compared to full seasons, T.O. has missed games the last few years as well.

It normally takes WRs a year or two before they fit into the NFL and this would give Holmes some time to adjust while learning from two good WRs, at the same time he would fill a need as a returner and occasional deep threat.

Once again not the choice I personally would want but if we are building for the future of the team as well as now then it would be hard to complain too much about it.

For years we have failed to address the WR issue in the draft except for low round picks and I think Crayton will be a #2 WR at best.

 

[Dalmations202]

how do you know it'd be a bust pick? its just as easy we pick some other position and that player would be a bust...what if we take a Lawson type player at 18 and he cant figure out how to play OLB in the 3-4?

if WR is the highest rated player they have on the board when our pick comes up and we cant trade down (assuming they want to) then they should pick a WR...

that said, I agree that OL is the single biggest issue remaining on the team...if they cant pass protect and run block better than last yr we'll be sitting home come playoff time again regardless of what moves we have made or will make via free agency or the draft

David

Bingo. Defense is fine now, and maybe a SOLB (which would be saying that your last years #2 is a bust) or a FS would be great #1 picks, which would make the D better.

Regardless though, if the OL is not fixed, it won't matter.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

I personally would rather us take Carpenter/lawson or another position at 18.

However I could see a reason for Holmes.

I think he will be a good WR and at worst his first year he will get a few plays at WR to learn the position but should be an immediate threat on ST.

We have two older WRs starting with contracts that make it possible they may only be here one or two years.

Terry Glenn has had many more seasons missing games compared to full seasons, T.O. has missed games the last few years as well.

It normally takes WRs a year or two before they fit into the NFL and this would give Holmes some time to adjust while learning from two good WRs, at the same time he would fill a need as a returner and occasional deep threat.

Once again not the choice I personally would want but if we are building for the future of the team as well as now then it would be hard to complain too much about it.

For years we have failed to address the WR issue in the draft except for low round picks and I think Crayton will be a #2 WR at best.

:stupidops wrong sign :signmast: I think Holmes would be the safe pick if not the BPA, with the age of are receivers I think Holmes fits in great. All the other lb,s outside of Carpenter scare me if we plan on them making the switch to strongside lb from DE, there is bound to be some growing pains.

 

[visionary]

Thank you! Couldn't have said it better myself.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please dont.

 

[TheHustler]

I'd be surprised if we went WR in the first, but Goose is always pretty accurate.

 

[MissionCoach]

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I thought I recalled something about Gosselin doing several mock drafts, with his last, which is right before draft day...being the one he thinks will be most accuracte.

Can anyone confirmm this?
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What I was trying to say, Gosselin does several versions of the draft as related to needs, BPA, and finally how he actually thinks the draft will play out. If I remember correctly, one version that he puts out is totally off the wall.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

anybody that believes that Owens and Glenn are here for the long haul are kidding themselves

David

you don't use your 1st round picks on insurance and backups, you could get your future WR somewhere in the 2nd day, where the value is better

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What I was trying to say, Gosselin does several versions of the draft as related to needs, BPA, and finally how he actually thinks the draft will play out. If I remember correctly, one version that he puts out is totally off the wall.

Gosselin does several versions of his draft related to what the scouts are telling him

 

[dbair1967]

you don't use your 1st round picks on insurance and backups, you could get your future WR somewhere in the 2nd day, where the value is better

again, it depends on the rating of the player...

you have to factor in things like WR's take time to develop, knowing that and also knowing 1) our WR's are old and we dont have much behind them and 2) old players usually dont stay healthy and take longer to recover if they do get hurt

in Holmes case, he would be a 3rd WR and a PR/KR guy...that type of guy isnt really a "backup" as they would be on the field for alot of plays between the two roles

what you dont do on draft day is blatantly reach for a player because of perceived "need"...I'd argue that the team itself would be more improved adding a player like Holmes than drafting a guy you "think" might be starter at say, FS or OLB...then come TC and preseason find out said player isnt capable of starting or playing a role because they arnt ready...

I'm not saying Holmes should be the pick, all I'm saying is if when our picks comes up at 18 if he is the highest rated guy on our board and they cant trade down (assuming they'd want to) then I have no problem seeing us pick him because he fills a huge role on the team and should develop into a very good starting NFL WR in the near future

David