Greg Hardy: "If Cowboys Offer, I'd Love to Stay Here"

[Rogah]

2. I believe he's not the bad guy in his situation, it's a media narrative.

 

[Rogah]

Make an offer and make it quick and quietly and I think it gets done.

i think both sides are done with the noise and just want to play football. I don't think he wants to go on a FA tour with all the interviews and attention.

Your naïveté is adorable - don't ever change!!

He is going to free agency. He can't be franchised (not that his performance merits it anyway). He will take the biggest contract he can get. It might be Dallas, it might be elsewhere. And I guarantee you his agent is already fielding offers. De facto free agency began yesterday.

 

[ConstantReboot]

She sells coffee tables books of herself naked for $700.

She knows how hot she is and so does everyone else.

Another non-troversy.

The politically correct crowd needs something else to crow about these days.

They should make a bigger deal of women who sell their nude photos for money. Rather than a boy who was turned on naturally by her sexiness. She's a sex symbol so I don't see the fuss.

If she doesn't like compliments from other guys then stop taking nude photos.

 

[JohnsKey19]

The beat writers are speculating Hardy wont be back based on Garrett's comments about him yesterday. I have not read the exact quotes but several media members made the similar comments yesterday.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Bring Hardy back!

 

[Rogerthat12]

The beat writers are speculating Hardy wont be back based on Garrett's comments about him yesterday. I have not read the exact quotes but several media members made the similar comments yesterday.

They were speculating but Garrett did not offer high praise, just that he was good at times stopping the run and good at times at rushing the qb.

It was really soft praise and nothing else offered after being asked multiple times. By contrast, he went into great detail praising Dmac about everything.

Greg knows the decision is with Jerry alone, I personally think Jason does not want the headache and after dealing with his antics this season, never saw the production consistently on the field to warrant the effort to deal with the guy.

 

[Alexander]

The beat writers are speculating Hardy wont be back based on Garrett's comments about him yesterday. I have not read the exact quotes but several media members made the similar comments yesterday.

Read the same as well. Then you see Marinelli going to bat for him. I would not want it to hinge on the robot's opinion. He only establishes relationships with players he can go to basketball games with.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Would you agree that the media narrative is that they took Holder's word for it in that they were 'just arguing' and Hardy attacked her out of anger, threw her down in a tub, proceeded to punch her, slap her and strangle her? And that Holder's friend called 911 on Hardy and she was thankfully saved by the police?

If you agree and believe that, you should put the face palm on yourself because you clearly have not read anything on the case other than what the media tells you.

You do realize that in the bench trial, under North Carolina law, the defense attorneys are not allowed evidence, witness or the victim?

Or that Holder admitted to being high on coke and drunk during this incident?

Or that Hardy called 911 on *Holder* where she was heard clearly apologizing and saying she didn't want to be arrested (presumably because she hit him in the face with a high heel shoe)? Or that when the police showed up...Holder, the alleged victim, ran away from the police until they corralled her?

Or that the DA expunged this from Hardy's record because as he said he wasn't comfortable with the contradictions in her bench trial testimony versus what she told the cops and the evidence? You do realize that there are men convicted of murder and rape that get it overturned by DNA evidence that comes out and they can't get that expunged from their record for years?

The media narrative was completely different. And that's why I used to believe that Hardy was as guilty as the day was knew. But, when Gawker posted the photos of Holder who they had claimed had been punched and slapped in the face and strangled....yet, I saw 0 punch or slap type bruising or strangulation marks and had to question what really went on and why a DA would quickly expunge this conviction from Hardy's record...especially since Hardy does not play for the Panthers anymore.

And I have yet to see these writers in the media have an answer for my questions. I've asked Diana Moskovitz politely and she refused to answer anything other than claiming I was a Cowboys homer and some 'pathetic Men's Right Activist' that will never get her to change her mind.

So your face palm makes you just like the Moskovitz's of the world...terrified to simply answer a question that goes against your preconceived belief system.






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[davey999]

bye bye Greg

 

[Coachmac87]

I think it's way to early to decide if Hardy is coming back or not. 90% of people that want him gone are the ones who didn't want him in the first place. If you want to replace him that's fine...but how? Gregory?? FA or Draft??

The safest bet for the Cowboys is to resign him if possible..don't break the bank on him but I'd strongly consider getting something done. If not Bosa becomes our main priority and play him at LE and move Lawrence to RE. Bosa can play the 3-tech in NASCAR packages.

I just feel this secondary needs help and I'd focus my resources there instead of trying to not only replace Hardy but fix the DBs too. Draft Ramsey and resign Hardy is IMO the easiest and most realistic option

 

[TwoCentPlain]

The beat writers are speculating Hardy wont be back based on Garrett's comments about him yesterday. I have not read the exact quotes but several media members made the similar comments yesterday.

When has Garrett ever made a substantial comment on anything? Not trying to be funny. Just the truth. His pressers are nothing but garbage about stacking wins, processes, all three stages of the game, and other stuff like that. Need to go back and watch the tape. I wouldn't take anything Garrett said to the bank.

Hardy was successful at Carolina. If Hardy goes elsewhere, I think it is very probable that he will be successful. What does that say about the Dallas Cowboys coaching staff? Speaks volumes to me.

 

[31smackdown]

How much better was Hardy than Mincey? I'm not a Mincey fan either, but it's hard to justify $8mil a year for solid play. I think he will be better next year and he gives you a lot of versatility in that he can play any position on the line. With that said, because of his versatility the Cowboys don't really have another player to plug in for him and keeping him lets you rotate DLaw, Gregory and Crawford. 3 year deal/$25mil - $14mil guaranteed . Everything has to be based on 2-3 years. What did he end up making this year per game? Is he better or worse than Michael Bennett?

 

[Coachmac87]

I think it's way to early to decide if Hardy is coming back or not. 90% of people that want him gone are the ones who didn't want him in the first place. If you want to replace him that's fine...but how? Gregory?? FA or Draft??

The safest bet for the Cowboys is to resign him if possible..don't break the bank on him but I'd strongly consider getting something done. If not Bosa becomes our main priority and play him at LE and move Lawrence to RE. Bosa can play the 3-tech in NASCAR packages.

I just feel this secondary needs help and I'd focus my resources there instead of trying to not only replace Hardy but fix the DBs too. Draft Ramsey and resign Hardy is IMO the easiest and most realistic option

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How much better was Hardy than Mincey? I'm not a Mincey fan either, but it's hard to justify $8mil a year for solid play. I think he will be better next year and he gives you a lot of versatility in that he can play any position on the line. With that said, because of his versatility the Cowboys don't really have another player to plug in for him and keeping him lets you rotate DLaw, Gregory and Crawford. 3 year deal/$25mil - $14mil guaranteed . Everything has to be based on 2-3 years. What did he end up making this year per game? Is he better or worse than Michael Bennett?

But everyone KNEW this was going to be a rust year for Hardy. Everyone with knowledge of football and history. You don't take a year off of football and come back dominant like nothing happened. Is there evidence of it happening? Sure. But this game is far too hard and physical to assume such a thing would happen.

Whoever gets Hardy is going to benefit off this rust year. I hope its us because IMO, I think he will be back to himself the season. That's in part why most teams didn't want to deal with his headache. No one thought he'd come in and dominate off the back so the headache wasn't worth it. But for the Cowboys.......Hardy was still far better than anything they had last year at the position.

 

[31smackdown]

But everyone KNEW this was going to be a rust year for Hardy. Everyone with knowledge of football and history. You don't take a year off of football and come back dominant like nothing happened. Is there evidence of it happening? Sure. But this game is far too hard and physical to assume such a thing would happen.

Whoever gets Hardy is going to benefit off this rust year. I hope its us because IMO, I think he will be back to himself the season. That's in part why most teams didn't want to deal with his headache. No one thought he'd come in and dominate off the back so the headache wasn't worth it. But for the Cowboys.......Hardy was still far better than anything they had last year at the position.

I'm in the resign him crowd because the Cowboys are fooling themselves if they think the DLine is not part of the weakness of this team. The line was pretty banged up this year with all the starters having some injury that limited them. I would still like to see another interior guy added in the draft to really cause some issues. I would think the going salary would be in line with guys like Jared Odrick and Everson Griffen at around 8-8.5mil per/year.

Everson Griffen:

DE Everson Griffen signed a five year, $42.5 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings on March 11, 2014. Griffen received $19.8 million fully guaranteed. The guarantee is made up of a $6 million signing bonus and his 2014 and 2015 base salaries. Base salaries are $6,900,000(2014), $6,900,000(2015), $6,900,000(2016), $6,900,000(2017), and $8,400,000(2017).

His sack and pressure numbers are about what you can hope for out of Hardy so I think it's a good comparison.

 

[Rogah]

If you agree and believe that, you should put the face palm on yourself because you clearly have not read anything on the case other than what the media tells you.

Part of my face palm was the irony of you, of all people, complaining about people believing the media narrative. Thanks for giving me a great laugh to start the day..!!

You do realize that in the bench trial, under North Carolina law, the defense attorneys are not allowed evidence, witness or the victim?

Actually no, I don't realize that, because it ain't true and you don't know what the heck you're talking about (as usual).

In an NC bench trial, not only are defense attorneys allowed to present evidence and call witnesses, but in this case they did. Hardy's attorney Chris Fialko was allowed to present evidence, he was allowed to call witnesses (he called 2 witnesses of his own) and he was allowed to cross examine any witnesses the prosecution called, including the victim, whom he did cross examine. He could have called Hardy as well, but chose not to. Furthermore, the prosecution had to give the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt (not just probable cause), which the judge found they did.

Thanks for proving how completely ignorant of what went on you are..!! Feel free to lern2facts any day now. Here are more well deserved face palms:

 

[Killerinstinct]

Re-sign Hardy. We have enough holes without having to get another DE as well.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't think Jason was ever totally in favor of getting Hardy to begin with and I don't think Jason would lose any sleep if Hardy left.

Just an impression I got, I could be wrong.

I don't think you are wrong at all. His body language, words he uses, tone, everthing points to his discomfort with Hardy. You just get the feeling that at the end of the day he was outvoted and Hardy became a Cowboy without an endorsement from the HC.

 

[Doomsday101]

For me it really comes down to how much? If he is expecting top 4 to 5 money then he can walk.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm in the resign him crowd because the Cowboys are fooling themselves if they think the DLine is not part of the weakness of this team. The line was pretty banged up this year with all the starters having some injury that limited them. I would still like to see another interior guy added in the draft to really cause some issues. I would think the going salary would be in line with guys like Jared Odrick and Everson Griffen at around 8-8.5mil per/year.

Everson Griffen:

DE Everson Griffen signed a five year, $42.5 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings on March 11, 2014. Griffen received $19.8 million fully guaranteed. The guarantee is made up of a $6 million signing bonus and his 2014 and 2015 base salaries. Base salaries are $6,900,000(2014), $6,900,000(2015), $6,900,000(2016), $6,900,000(2017), and $8,400,000(2017).

His sack and pressure numbers are about what you can hope for out of Hardy so I think it's a good comparison.

Yeah I hope they aren't going with Lawrence and Gregory as their starters. They may do well but if you can get Hardy for a solid price like the Griffen deal I see no reason why you don't bring him back. Maybe at some smaller years.