Gurley highlights Jaylon looks horrible

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Yakuza Rich said:
Meh. The D-Line was horrendous. Poor gap integrity and often leaving an O-Linemen with a free lane to run right at Jaylon.

As I said 2 weeks ago...Maliek Collins is severely overrated. He was pretty awful against the Rams.
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expand thoughts here. Isnt Maliek, in Rods Scheme, his single thought is to hit the outside shoulder of the OG and get upfeild.......

to me teams are using that against him, letting him take that angle and just running up inside him. And since the Center can just check the 1-tech and then get into the 2nd level on the LB's destroying all angles of attack.......He sets up on outside shoulder, its tough for him to then hold up on a run play, since essentially he is already turned.

Now maybe, without All-22, Rod does have Maliek on run downs, etc changeup and tie up OLine with Gap control..........tell me what you see Maliek not doing vrs the 3 tech standard of Sapp, A.Donald in a 4 man line etc..........
 
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vlad said:
It just blows my mind that we don't have anyone we can play over him - he's clearly not right/ready. Teams are attacking him, with ease.

I also heard that he has played more snaps on D than any other front 7 player on our team - wth Garrett? Are you trying to ruin this kid?

I think he needs more time to heal, only then can you know if he's going to be great, good, average, or a bad NFL player.
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The idea was to have Hitchens start over him and have Jaylon rotate in.
 
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sbark said:
expand thoughts here. Isnt Maliek, in Rods Scheme, his single thought is to hit the outside shoulder of the OG and get upfeild.......

to me teams are using that against him, letting him take that angle and just running up inside him. And since the Center can just check the 1-tech and then get into the 2nd level on the LB's destroying all angles of attack.......He sets up on outside shoulder, its tough for him to then hold up on a run play, since essentially he is already turned.

Now maybe, without All-22, Rod does have Maliek on run downs, etc changeup and tie up OLine with Gap control..........tell me what you see Maliek not doing vrs the 3 tech standard of Sapp, A.Donald in a 4 man line etc..........
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I can see why coaches would like Maliek because he's a big guy with a pretty good first step and power. But his footwork is very poor and he doesn't have the hand technique to make up for it. And he gets murdered on double teams..





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Sean Lee makes all the LBs look better.
For that matter the Defense isn't the same without him. He helps J Smith with the head game.
 
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xwalker said:
He didn't accrue a year towards free agency while on NFI.
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Is that right? That's interesting.

However, the biggest concern I have is that he's still not healthy and we don't know the extent of what's permanent damage. I know he's still experiencing recovery and that's encouraging, but the guy out there playing now is not what enticed us enough to draft him where we did.

Nerve damage carries an unpredictable recovery outlook, and we have to live with those concerns until it's fully healed. Jacksonville doesn't have that concern with Jack. And that's a huge difference.

If he can't overcome this injury, the extra year under contract is meaningless.
 
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Is that right? That's interesting.

However, the biggest concern I have is that he's still not healthy and we don't know the extent of what's permanent damage. I know he's still experiencing recovery and that's encouraging, but the guy out there playing now is not what enticed us enough to draft him where we did.

Nerve damage carries an unpredictable recovery outlook, and we have to live with those concerns until it's fully healed. Jacksonville doesn't have that concern with Jack. And that's a huge difference.

If he can't overcome this injury, the extra year under contract is meaningless.
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It was big debate here last year. It was never 100% verified but it seemed to be the concensus.

Based on the rules, if a player get less than full pay, he does not accrue. The rules appear to allow team to pay NFI players less than the minimum salary. Even paying him $10 under minimum would qualify as not full pay.
 
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ConceptCoop said:
I love how the goal posts are moving. First it was "Wait until year 2!" Now it's "He's basically a rookie--wait until year 3!"

Awful, awful pick.
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Truth is Jack looked bad last year but played the year and got the experience....Jaylon is in his 4th game, i'm not moving goal post I am pointing out reality...Jack looks good this year AFTER he got some experience...its simple really
 

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Truth is Jack looked bad last year but played the year and got the experience....Jaylon is in his 4th game, i'm not moving goal post I am pointing out reality...Jack looks good this year AFTER he got some experience...its simple really
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You don't draft a guy who won't not suck until year 3 that high. Awful, awful pick.
 
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It’s gonna be hard to stop any offense if they insist on having Smith on the field this much. There’s 50 guys on practice squads and the street that can give you more. This is just not gonna work.
 

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It’s gonna be hard to stop any offense if they insist on having Smith on the field this much. There’s 50 guys on practice squads and the street that can give you more. This is just not gonna work.
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But he was a Jurry pick. Jurry will happily lose games in an attempt to make a point.
 
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