Guyton & Beebe

[RonWashington]

The strength of the Giants is the edge . Is Guyton your LT Thurs night ? Maybe Tyler . Beebe as well against Baltimore looked a little overmatched . Hoffman as an option . Let your 2 rookie linemen have a look from the sideline for a week . Or just ride it out ?

On the flip side the young LB’s have been underwhelming last two games . I guess to get better you get younger in this league and you have to go with it . All these rookies will be better for it .

 

[Reality]

I remember a couple of plays watching Martin get driven back several yards and that's with me not even focusing on him or the line most of the game.

I don't know if it's a scheme problem or simply getting outplayed, but the offensive line seems to have been playing on their heels right from the snap the last couple of games.

 

[conner01]

The strength of the Giants is the edge . Is Guyton your LT Thurs night ? Maybe Tyler . Beebe as well against Baltimore looked a little overmatched . Hoffman as an option . Let your 2 rookie linemen have a look from the sideline for a week . Or just ride it out ?

On the flip side the young LB’s have been underwhelming last two games . I guess to get better you get younger in this league and you have to go with it . All these rookies will be better for it .

How about we let them play and develope

 

[RonWashington]

How about we let them play and develope

You know I agree with that . The more they play the better they will be for it. On one play the edge got by Guyton so quickly the holding occurred . This might be an 8-9 yr where your young players get the experience and the playoffs wait .

 

[RS12]

I remember a couple of plays watching Martin get driven back several yards and that's with me not even focusing on him or the line most of the game.

I don't know if it's a scheme problem or simply getting outplayed, but the offensive line seems to have been playing on their heels right from the snap the last couple of games.

When the other team knows you cant run the ball, today they averaged 3.2 yards per carry, the D Linemen pin their ears back (as the old saying goes) and get after the O Linement and QB. This team isn't even one dimensional right now on offense. More like half a dimension. It does appear Zach is on the downside though and I am one of his biggest fans.

 

[Reality]

When the other team knows you cant run the ball, today they averaged 3.2 yards per carry, the D Linemen pin their ears back (as the old saying goes) and get after the O Linement and QB. This team isn't even one dimensional right now on offense. More like half a dimension. It does appear Zach is on the downside though and I am one of his biggest fans.

All true.

 

[RonWashington]

I remember a couple of plays watching Martin get driven back several yards and that's with me not even focusing on him or the line most of the game.

I don't know if it's a scheme problem or simply getting outplayed, but the offensive line seems to have been playing on their heels right from the snap the last couple of games.

I think both Guyton & Beebe improve with experience , In a long career Zack Martin is on the back 9 with Bass waiting

 

[Ranching]

The strength of the Giants is the edge . Is Guyton your LT Thurs night ? Maybe Tyler . Beebe as well against Baltimore looked a little overmatched . Hoffman as an option . Let your 2 rookie linemen have a look from the sideline for a week . Or just ride it out ?

On the flip side the young LB’s have been underwhelming last two games . I guess to get better you get younger in this league and you have to go with it . All these rookies will be better for it .

Yes sir...these young players is the reason we don't tank. They need to learn to compete with proven professionals

 

[Ranching]

I remember a couple of plays watching Martin get driven back several yards and that's with me not even focusing on him or the line most of the game.

I don't know if it's a scheme problem or simply getting outplayed, but the offensive line seems to have been playing on their heels right from the snap the last couple of games.

Other than him aging, he also has two mediocre players on either side of him. He's taking the brunt.of the contact

 

[thunderpimp91]

I don’t think you really have an option but to play them as you don’t have anyone better. These guys at least have high ceilings, as long as they arent getting beat to the point where you’re doing psychological damage by forcing them on the field you need to stick with them.

 

[kiheikiwi]

Thought Beebee played pretty well. No glaring screwup. Guyton is having bit of trial by fire, but will be the better for it hopefully sooner then later.
Let em play, as long as the QB isn't getting hammered, they will keep improving.

 

[Adiba1977]

Guyton not good.

 

[RonWashington]

If I could interject another rookie with this conversation Caelon Carson looks overwhelmed at this point . Booth was a 2nd round pick with Minnesota . I want to see him start Thurs against the Giants with Carson back up . Let’s get another look opposite Diggs .

 

[BusDriver]

Keeping Solari was the biggest mistake this offseason.

Hopefully there aren’t too many bad habits to unlearn in 2025.

Even Martin rocking them cement shoes.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

hasn’t looked great for these two so far

 

[thunderpimp91]

Other than him aging, he also has two mediocre players on either side of him. He's taking the brunt.of the contact

Absolutely agree. Yeah he may not be an all pro player anymore but Zach is still a good player with a tough assignment. Really both of these guards do.

 

[Asklesko]

They stink.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

No need to even assess their roster. It can’t be worse than ours. They could have Nathan Peterman at QB and it wouldn’t matter. This team is weaker and less defensive than a newborn baby. They whine more than newborn babies too. Their LT’s, DT’s, front 7–none of that matters. Don’t even waste your time assessing this half-***** Clownboys, oops, I mean Cowboys team against a hot win Giants team at home.

We lose 47-30, with 27 of the points coming during garbage time.

 

[StarOfGlory]

Other than him aging, he also has two mediocre players on either side of him. He's taking the brunt.of the contact

We don’t know if Beebe is mediocre. He is a rookie that just played in his third NFL game. Steele is not looking good out there, I agree.

 

[RonWashington]

Keeping Solari was the biggest mistake this offseason.

Hopefully there aren’t too many bad habits to unlearn in 2025.

Even Martin rocking them cement shoes.

Solari Schottenheimer ( Zim so far ) MM last yr of contract ….

I mean Al Harris & perhaps Fassel I can live with . Those 2