Had we won, nothing is different

Diehardblues

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Playing well enough to have an opportunity to win and not able to close the deal is and continues to be a problem for this team.

That’s the difference besides the obvious is making it more difficult to win division which ultimately means all playoff games on the road.

We don’t have the confidence we can close out these big games . And when I see we, I mean the fans.

Yes, we are pleased we didn’t get blown out. And yes we can hang . But if you can’t close the deal moral victories leave you empty in the end.

It’s not up to the fans to have the same we can overcome like the players must have. But this has been our Achilles heel for this team. Not getting over the hump. And until we do fans will be be more suspect than confident.
 

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The Giants were 7-7 during the 2011 season and swept Dallas in both regular season matchups. The Cowboys had swept New York in the regular season during 2007. The infamous team meeting was held that season because practically everyone, Michael Strahan in particular, hated Coughin's super-strict coaching. Reportedly, Coughlin softened his approach somewhat and the rest is history.

Ironically, it was Coughlin's disciplinary approach that overcame internal team melodrama four seasons later. It helped end a New York midseason four-game losing skid, got the team back on track, and eventually beat the Patriots again in the Super Bowl.

The coaching and player dynamic is notably different this season in Dallas compared to those two New York Giants' situations. Hopefully, Mike McCarthy can help guide his team as Coughlin did but in a different way unique to him.
Well said.

The homers just want to retain their hope however dismal it might look. Reality is too negative for them. Using the Jints exception to the rule helps them support .
 

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Would it impact a playoff game against the Lions, Eagles or Niners? Nope
It could. Even if we beat the Eagles when they visit us, this loss could be the difference in hosting one of those teams or having to go to their stadium for a playoff game. It could make the challenges more difficult. But we don't know that yet, so no use crying about it. And ultimately, whether at home or on the road, we still have to win.

I posted a thread about not making too much out of this game and still feel that way, but I can't say nothing is different. Some things definitely are, but we'll find out if they really matter.
 

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Playing well enough to have an opportunity to win and not able to close the deal is and continues to be a problem for this team.

That’s the difference besides the obvious is making it more difficult to win division which ultimately means all playoff games on the road.

We don’t have the confidence we can close out these big games . And when I see we, I mean the fans.

Yes, we are pleased we didn’t get blown out. And yes we can hang . But if you can’t close the deal moral victories leave you empty in the end.

It’s not up to the fans to have the same we can overcome like the players must have. But this has been our Achilles heel for this team. Not getting over the hump. And until we do fans will be be more suspect than confident.
My problem with this is the officials factor. If we play well enough to win in a cleanly called game and don't, that's on us. When we play well enough to win and the officials blow calls that affect the outcome, then that's the bigger problem. You are not going to be so much better against the top teams in this league that you can overcome blown calls. In a game of inches, you cannot have the officials giving inches to the other team.
 

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Dude, loosen up buddy...lol
We got jokes! It's the only way to keep our sanity.
With all the insanity that’s posted on this board, good luck trying to figure out who’s joking and who’s being serious. Most of the zaniness is fans being serious. Lol
 

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With all the insanity that’s posted on this board, good luck trying to figure out who’s joking and who’s being serious. Most of the zaniness is fans being serious. Lol
Lol... understood. Fair point.
 

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Disagree..

Homefield advantage in the playoffs and winning the division was much more realistic.

Now we just are a wildcard team that must travel.

With 3 road losses this season something did change and that is any shot we had at a Super Bowl.
 

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It could. Even if we beat the Eagles when they visit us, this loss could be the difference in hosting one of those teams or having to go to their stadium for a playoff game. It could make the challenges more difficult. But we don't know that yet, so no use crying about it. And ultimately, whether at home or on the road, we still have to win.

I posted a thread about not making too much out of this game and still feel that way, but I can't say nothing is different. Some things definitely are, but we'll find out if they really matter.
Go check out BGN. Eagles fans are talking about beating the Kansas City Chiefs. Cowboys fans are talking about beating the Eagles four weeks from now. See the difference? Note, Philly is not all that good. They just aren’t. If you can’t even see the bar how are you going to get over it? Good lord, if Philly and Dallas were in the AFC they’d both have losing records.
 

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My problem with this is the officials factor. If we play well enough to win in a cleanly called game and don't, that's on us. When we play well enough to win and the officials blow calls that affect the outcome, then that's the bigger problem. You are not going to be so much better against the top teams in this league that you can overcome blown calls. In a game of inches, you cannot have the officials giving inches to the other team.
If we believe officiating is going to stop us then we might as well fold up our tent.

Great teams overcome obstacles. Marginal teams don’t. We had enough opportunities to overcome. But we didn’t. Poor officiating just becomes another excuse.
 

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My problem with this is the officials factor. If we play well enough to win in a cleanly called game and don't, that's on us. When we play well enough to win and the officials blow calls that affect the outcome, then that's the bigger problem. You are not going to be so much better against the top teams in this league that you can overcome blown calls. In a game of inches, you cannot have the officials giving inches to the other team.
Fourteen teams had that problem last weekend and fourteen teams are going to have the same problem this weekend.
 
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Lets just say we had no penalty from the 5 on that last drive. Dak drops back on the firts play and hits Ferguson for a TD and we win. The standings would be different, we would have a better shot at homefield, but besides those two things, nothing would be any different than it is today.

Games like this with 2 good teams often come down to a play here or there, a penalty here or there. So had we won, would that impact the next time we play? NOPE.

Would it impact a playoff game against the Lions, Eagles or Niners? Nope

We are good, but NOBODY is going to win every week. Every team in the league has laid an absolute stinker against a bad team.

So in the end, Im actually more encouraged. Dak absolutely showed he can dominate the Eagles. Im not sure why we doubted it, hes been doing it already.

Oh... its Jerry's fault. Im not sure what exactly is his fault, but I just needed to get that in.
They always play the eagles well, but you're right that they're capable of playing well... Just like last year and the year before, the put up a good fight and fold when it's winning time.
 

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Fourteen teams had that problem last weekend and fourteen teams are going to have the same problem this weekend.
That may be true, but why couldn't Philly have been one of those 14 teams instead of us?

All I'm saying is that it's hard enough to beat good teams without the bad calls or no-calls overall also favoring them. I'm not saying we've never come out on the favorable side of calls, but generally whoever doesn't is going to have a hard time overcoming it against top teams, just as we did.
 

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Dallas has won something like 11 in a row at home and 16 in a row on turf. We shouldn't downplay the value of the 1 seed. It doesn't guarantee anything but man the road is easier than from a wild card spot.
 

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Nothing matters, the universe does not change if football goes away suddenly, I learned this today while meditating.
 

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If we believe officiating is going to stop us then we might as well fold up our tent.

Great teams overcome obstacles. Marginal teams don’t. We had enough opportunities to overcome. But we didn’t. Poor officiating just becomes another excuse.
When great teams play great teams, it only takes a little going in one team's favor to make a difference. Officiating is part of the game and it can affect the outcome. If Philly had not received the bad spot on the opening drive, who knows how the game would have turned out. It's not an excuse, it's an influence. We did not need the calls favoring Philly when we were playing a tough team on the road. It was too much to overcome.
 

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A win would have allowed Dallas to control its own destiny, now they need help from other teams.

Quite a bit of it as well with their loss coming from the AFC.
 

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It was a monumental loss...as was AZ. Asking Dak to win on the road against good to great teams in the playoffs, is just a terrible recipe for disaster.
 

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It was a monumental loss...as was AZ. Asking Dak to win on the road against good to great teams in the playoffs, is just a terrible recipe for disaster.
It’s like… You’ve paid attention all these years lol.
 
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