Had we won, nothing is different

[Surfguy]

It's better to lose and learn than win and learn nothing.

Yes, I write fortunes for fortune cookies in my spare time.

 

[Motorola]

It's better to lose and learn than win and learn nothing.

Yes, I write fortunes for fortune cookies in my spare time.

I skimmed through a quote site with 'win-or-lose'as the topic...I didn’t come across that one...you might want to patent that one Surfguy...unless you know the origin.

 

[Surfguy]

I skimmed through a quote site with 'win-or-lose'as the topic...I didn’t come across that one...you might want to patent that one Surfguy...unless you know the origin.

It originated right here. I don't know the origin. But, it's in writing now so no one can claim it as their own or I'll sue.

 

[Motorola]

It originated right here. I don't know the origin. But, it's in writing now so no one can claim it as their own or I'll sue.

Contact the patent office - git er done!

 

[Surfguy]

Contact the patent office - git er done!

I don't want to go through what happened with "Taco Tuesday".

 

[gimmesix]

I agree in part but If you feel it’s too much to overcome then I’d argue it’s more of an excuse when we had other opportunities.

Some fans struggle with the reality of losing swallowing the bitter pill for our own shortcomings much like making excuses for loved ones who come up short in competition never wanting to admit they didn’t do enough or weren’t enough.

We have to take advantage of the opportunities which present themselves. In the end we didn’t .

So if they had ruled Schoonmaker's catch a TD and upheld it and the Eagles ended up losing, would the same argument apply to them?

I just think when you have to overcome officiating when you are playing a team that is at least your equal, that's asking an awful lot. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened with the right spot on that first drive. Maybe the Eagles go for it anyway and make it. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened without the pass interference call on Gilmore, which aided another scoring drive. (Although I don't feel as bad about that one because I believe there also was a ticky-tack call on the Eagles in the second half that kind of balanced that one.)

We do have to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves, but a fairly officiated game does not force you to also have to overcome extra obstacles thrown in your way when facing a good team. That becomes a much harder task and what should be an unnecessary one.

I know some of our fans hope the pendulum swings the other way when it comes to officiating when Philly comes here, but I just want to see a game where bad calls or bad non-calls don't play a role.

 

[Diehardblues]

So if they had ruled Schoonmaker's catch a TD and upheld it and the Eagles ended up losing, would the same argument apply to them?

I just think when you have to overcome officiating when you are playing a team that is at least your equal, that's asking an awful lot. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened with the right spot on that first drive. Maybe the Eagles go for it anyway and make it. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened without the pass interference call on Gilmore, which aided another scoring drive. (Although I don't feel as bad about that one because I believe there also was a ticky-tack call on the Eagles in the second half that kind of balanced that one.)

We do have to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves, but a fairly officiated game does not force you to also have to overcome extra obstacles thrown in your way when facing a good team. That becomes a much harder task and what should be an unnecessary one.

I know some of our fans hope the pendulum swings the other way when it comes to officiating when Philly comes here, but I just want to see a game where bad calls or bad non-calls don't play a role.

That was a tough call. could have gone either way. But I understand the over ruling. Leave it to us to find a new way to come up short. Unbelievably gut wrenching. Honestly I would have kicked the FG there. Much like I would have on 4th and 8 on one of other 4th qtr possessions deep in their territory. Too many times MM risk going for it on 4th down instead of taking the points. Both of those were opportunities we left points out there which may have changed our situation in the end.

I think we had the opportunities to overcome the questionable officiating. And officiating and penalties often play a role. The fact we are near the top of the league again is a problem beyond questionable officiating.

I also have other issues with our team to simply be be solely blaming officiating which we had opportunities to overcome. And like in another thread with similar discussion I tend to agree it’s likely fans are more biased about how the calls are going than the officials bias and or throwing the games.

 

[john van brocklin]

Well..have to at least give credit for the first road playoff win 30 years right? Guess it's kinda sad that is a statement game for this team

I will take any playoff win, even if it's against an 8 and 9 record team, lol.
But would be nice to knock off a quality team on the road, wouldn't it?

 

[Jipper]

I will take any playoff win, even if it's against an 8 and 9 record team, lol.
But would be nice to knock off a quality team on the road, wouldn't it?

Very true my friend...at this point I just want to see a divisional round win

 

[john van brocklin]

Very true my friend...at this point I just want to see a divisional round win

 

[Reid1boys]

Imagine being a loser and thinking this way on a regular basis. Couldnt be me

you have no clue wth you are talking about when it comes to mje. But I actually coached sports for 20 years and know that losing a game doesnt end the season.

 

[KingCorcoran]

So if they had ruled Schoonmaker's catch a TD and upheld it and the Eagles ended up losing, would the same argument apply to them?

I just think when you have to overcome officiating when you are playing a team that is at least your equal, that's asking an awful lot. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened with the right spot on that first drive. Maybe the Eagles go for it anyway and make it. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened without the pass interference call on Gilmore, which aided another scoring drive. (Although I don't feel as bad about that one because I believe there also was a ticky-tack call on the Eagles in the second half that kind of balanced that one.)

We do have to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves, but a fairly officiated game does not force you to also have to overcome extra obstacles thrown in your way when facing a good team. That becomes a much harder task and what should be an unnecessary one.

I know some of our fans hope the pendulum swings the other way when it comes to officiating when Philly comes here, but I just want to see a game where bad calls or bad non-calls don't play a role.

The Dallas Cowboys have never lost a game, but for the officials. Ever.

 

[Jake]

This thread is just one big rationalization. Lots of NFL games are close. You either make the plays to win or you don't. The Cowboys didn't.

Telling yourself "nothing is different" is a coping mechanism.

 

[Buzzbait]

Go check out BGN. Eagles fans are talking about beating the Kansas City Chiefs. Cowboys fans are talking about beating the Eagles four weeks from now. See the difference? Note, Philly is not all that good. They just aren’t. If you can’t even see the bar how are you going to get over it? Good lord, if Philly and Dallas were in the AFC they’d both have losing records.

So are you saying we're not going to win so we might as well resign ourselves to the inevitable?
So you've got us losing games we haven't even played yet.
Instead of losing the games here on CZ I'd prefer to win the games on the field. But you have to play 'em to win 'em.

 

[Blackrain]

Lets just say we had no penalty from the 5 on that last drive. Dak drops back on the firts play and hits Ferguson for a TD and we win. The standings would be different, we would have a better shot at homefield, but besides those two things, nothing would be any different than it is today.

Games like this with 2 good teams often come down to a play here or there, a penalty here or there. So had we won, would that impact the next time we play? NOPE.

Would it impact a playoff game against the Lions, Eagles or Niners? Nope

We are good, but NOBODY is going to win every week. Every team in the league has laid an absolute stinker against a bad team.

So in the end, Im actually more encouraged. Dak absolutely showed he can dominate the Eagles. Im not sure why we doubted it, hes been doing it already.

Oh... its Jerry's fault. Im not sure what exactly is his fault, but I just needed to get that in.

Nothing would be different oh my goodness..

Nothing except the confidence of the team the fact that the next time we face them would be in our house and it would be a chance to sweep them.

Would it impact a playoff game of course it could give us home field advantage it could help give us a bye week. If we sweep them winning in our house it could definitely be some type of a tiebreaker that could help us with playoff seating home field advantage bye week.

The eagles are a team that unless they completely implode we are in heated competition with in our division and conference and any win against them is a very good thing.
If you're not sure what's Jerry's fault then you've been asleep for about 25 years.
He's got three Lombardi trophies and all they are is a shiny little trinket to him what's important is keeping us relevant so we make the most money that requires us being just good enough to make the playoffs every year not going all in and shooting the works truly making an all-out effort to win a super bowl then possibly having a few down years where we aren't very relevant Jerry's all about making the money the shiny little trinkets in the trophy case are just a novelty at this point

 

[Reid1boys]

Nothing would be different oh my goodness..

Nothing except the confidence of the team the fact that the next time we face them would be in our house and it would be a chance to sweep them.

Would it impact a playoff game of course it could give us home field advantage it could help give us a bye week. If we sweep them winning in our house it could definitely be some type of a tiebreaker that could help us with playoff seating home field advantage bye week.

The eagles are a team that unless they completely implode we are in heated competition with in our division and conference and any win against them is a very good thing.
If you're not sure what's Jerry's fault then you've been asleep for about 25 years.
He's got three Lombardi trophies and all they are is a shiny little trinket to him what's important is keeping us relevant so we make the most money that requires us being just good enough to make the playoffs every year not going all in and shooting the works truly making an all-out effort to win a super bowl then possibly having a few down years where we aren't very relevant Jerry's all about making the money the shiny little trinkets in the trophy case are just a novelty at this point

All of you that think jerry is only about making money are MORONS... absolute idiots. Jerry doesnt need to do jack squat to make the cowboys relevant, or to make money. They already dominate the news cycle all day, everyday during the nfl season. Even on a bye week they are talked about more than other teams.

The Cowboys valuation keeps going up and up and up. The cowboys have the highest rated games every year and the Cowboys sell boatloads of merch... whether they are winning or not.. Are you not smart enough to see that winning a super bowl only increases all of that?

Unlike the Patriots, the Cowboys actually are America's team. People have kids and raise them as Cowboys fans, so their popularity isnt going anywhere anytime soon. The Pats??? Hah... nobody gives a damn about them anymore.... in a few quick seasons without Brady , they are now irrelevant. So keep telling yourself anything you want about Jerry to make you feel better, I dont give a damn.

If we would have won, you think all of the sudden the players would feel more confident?? Again, you are a fool if you think these pro athletes on the Cowboys dont think they are already better than the Eagles... I dont care what their record is. Thats the nature of pro athletes.

well damn... we should stop playing, because the Cowboys clearly have no shot against the Eagles. You also shouldnt watch tomorrow , because this team sucks and is mediocre again, because that is how Jerry likes it.

 

[CWR]

The seeding would be a lot more favorable.

Our psyche would be as well.

I agree we'd still need to prove it down the road, but eventually these guys have to start taking those steps. I think we win in December though.

 

[rojan]

L thread. A win would have meant we control our own destiny for the number 1 seed. Now we need lots of help

 

[Diehardblues]

All of you that think jerry is only about making money are MORONS... absolute idiots. Jerry doesnt need to do jack squat to make the cowboys relevant, or to make money. They already dominate the news cycle all day, everyday during the nfl season. Even on a bye week they are talked about more than other teams.

The Cowboys valuation keeps going up and up and up. The cowboys have the highest rated games every year and the Cowboys sell boatloads of merch... whether they are winning or not.. Are you not smart enough to see that winning a super bowl only increases all of that?

Unlike the Patriots, the Cowboys actually are America's team. People have kids and raise them as Cowboys fans, so their popularity isnt going anywhere anytime soon. The Pats??? Hah... nobody gives a damn about them anymore.... in a few quick seasons without Brady , they are now irrelevant. So keep telling yourself anything you want about Jerry to make you feel better, I dont give a damn.

If we would have won, you think all of the sudden the players would feel more confident?? Again, you are a fool if you think these pro athletes on the Cowboys dont think they are already better than the Eagles... I dont care what their record is. Thats the nature of pro athletes.

well damn... we should stop playing, because the Cowboys clearly have no shot against the Eagles. You also shouldnt watch tomorrow , because this team sucks and is mediocre again, because that is how Jerry likes it.

You are right. Jethro isn’t all about the money. He’s all about being a celebrity football guy.

And he wants to win more than anyone but only his way.

The record revenue and popularity, etc simply provide him the means to continue his ways without any financial pushback which might otherwise force him to change.

 

[KingCorcoran]

You are right. Jethro isn’t all about the money. He’s all about being a celebrity football guy.

And he wants to win more than anyone but only his way.

The record revenue and popularity, etc simply provide him the means to continue his ways without any financial pushback which might otherwise force him to change.

I think Jerry’s biggest concern is the sentiment indicated on CZ.