Hall of Fame for Parcells?

AbeBeta

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Does Bill go to the Hall of Fame?

His winning percentage is a tad lower than many HoF coaches -- 57% regular season -- but he did take over several stinkers -- most of the coaches currently in the hall didn't coach much post-1994 (when the salary cap and the age of parity began). Bill has 9 post cap coaching seasons.

The Giants were awful his first year but he turned them into a powerhouse. He won 2 Superbowls there. Marv Levy has 0 and is rightfully in the hall.

In New England he took over a crap team and got them to a Superbowl in year 4.

In New York he took over a crap team and turned them around.

In Dallas, he again joined a team that stank. This time failed to win a playoff game. However, he built a very solid core for the team -- only the most ignorant would say that he didn't have overall a very good influence on personnel decisions. Many folks here indicated when he left that they would love to have him stay as a GM.

That record, to me makes him a first ballot HoF guy. Hands down.
 

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abersonc;1509569 said:
That record, to me makes him a first ballot HoF guy. Hands down.

Well, now what do you want anyone to say? You have made it clear that anyone that disagrees with you will not be right.

Stop with the loaded questions!!
:D

Of course he will get into the HOF...not only did he influence bad teams and turn them around, but he had a hand in alot of other successful coaches that went on to have good NFL careers.
 

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5Stars;1509573 said:
Well, now what do you want anyone to say? You have made it clear that anyone that disagrees with you will not be right.

Stop with the loaded questions!!
:D

Of course he will get into the HOF...not only did he influence bad teams and turn them around, but he had a hand in alot of other successful coaches that went on to have good NFL careers.

I'm sure someone thinks differently -- just like I thought Michael Irvin wasn't going to be elected to the hall.

Also, I want someone to say "well if Lynn Swan is in the hall then Bill Parcells should be"
 

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He deserves to be in the Hall but not for what he did in Dallas!!
 

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He would already be in if he didn't keep taking jobs. He's never stayed away for more than 5 yrs.
 

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BP should be a slam dunk for the HOF, but as one poster already mentioned not because of anything he did while in Dallas.
 

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gbrittain;1509632 said:
BP should be a slam dunk for the HOF, but as one poster already mentioned not because of anything he did while in Dallas.

I would maintain that he did well here -- folk's expectations are just way too high. Too many superbowls = one very spoiled fan base.
 

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I doubt there's any sane individual who honestly believes he's not a first ballot HOFer.
 

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abersonc;1509639 said:
I would maintain that he did well here -- folk's expectations are just way too high. Too many superbowls = one very spoiled fan base.


And...if I may...three Superbowls, with two of them being plastic during strike seasons...


And, no SuperBowls = ***** ENVY!!


I could care less about the Giants...
 

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theogt;1509640 said:
I doubt there's any sane individual who honestly believes he's not a first ballot HOFer.

There are folks on this board who believe he isn't. I want to hear their side.
 

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5Stars;1509643 said:
And...if I may...three Superbowls, with two of them being plastic during strike seasons...


And, no SuperBowls = ***** ENVY!!


I could care less about the Giants...

5Stars - you better pace yourself -- at this rate you'll be passed out before the 3-day weekend even gets rolling.
 

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abersonc;1509645 said:
5Stars - you better pace yourself -- at this rate you'll be passed out before the 3-day weekend even gets rolling.


:confused: Passed out on what?


That reminds me...I need to go get some beer!


You da man!


:D
 

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abersonc;1509639 said:
I would maintain that he did well here -- folk's expectations are just way too high. Too many superbowls = one very spoiled fan base.

We are talking HOF here. He did nothing HOF worthy during his time in Dallas. If you believe otherwise there are a whole bunch of coaches that better start lining up for their induction to the HOF.
 

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gbrittain;1509651 said:
We are talking HOF here. He did nothing HOF worthy during his time in Dallas. If you believe otherwise there are a whole bunch of coaches that better start lining up for their induction to the HOF.

Was this his best stop? Obviously not. But what if the core he built becomes the next great dynasty?
 

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abersonc;1509652 said:
Was this his best stop? Obviously not. But what if the core he built becomes the next great dynasty?

Well obviously I hope you are right. If that is the case I would definitely have to rethink my stance.

However, I can only go by what has transpired up until now. Either A) he underperformed as a coach or B) his legendary GM skills were lacking.

I know there are plenty of people not yet sold on Romo. Want Jones ran out of town. Calling Canty and Spears way less than stellar. James a mistake that we signed him long term. So on and so forth.

I hope for all Cowboy fans that he (BP) underperformed as a coach and not as a GM. I happen to believe that he did and hope I am right.

I do not hate Parcells one bit. However just because we improved under Parcells does not mean he was a success.

Improved yes. Anything to write home about...no. IMO.
 

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theogt;1509640 said:
I doubt there's any sane individual who honestly believes he's not a first ballot HOFer.

:hammer: he was HOF before he came to Dallas, and didn't do horrible here, so there's no way his term here tarnished his chances
 

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Yeagermeister;1509627 said:
He would already be in if he didn't keep taking jobs. He's never stayed away for more than 5 yrs.

Coaches don''t have to be away for 5 years.

Tom Landry...HOF Class of 1990.
 

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Uh-oh, Superpunk, you done startin' somethin'. I'm sure this post was inspired by your comment to Sarge in that other discussion.
 

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gbrittain;1509651 said:
We are talking HOF here. He did nothing HOF worthy during his time in Dallas. If you believe otherwise there are a whole bunch of coaches that better start lining up for their induction to the HOF.

in '03, Bill Parcells became the 1st coach in NFL history to lead 4 different teams to the playoffs

history lesson free of charge :D
 

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Maybe he gets in and maybe he doesn't...I don't care one way or the other. He did win a couple of superbowls and that point and that point alone makes him different than a Chuck Knox who also build winning teams in a couple of different places.

BTW it is only thanks to Scott Norwood that Parcells has two SB wins and Levy has none. Three feet to the left and they would each have one SB win.
 
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