Hamlins arent' the ball hawks needed at FS

[SLATEmosphere]

This is all moot since theo will get owned when we sign Rolle and release Hamsucks.

Maybe he can go ride on his jock somewhere else.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ken Hamstillinhisstance20yardsdownfield

 

[theogt]

How do you know that I made those up on the fly

I don't "know" and I didn't say that I did. But there is evidence that you did and that's what discredits your statistics.

Again the the email you lied about having still has not been quoted.

Why does it matter if I've quoted my e-mails with PFF? How does not quoting them make me a liar?

Its not raw data. This is not baseball where a hit is something very clear. In football especially with safeties playing zone coverages, making a judgement call on who to assign the completion on is a completely subjective thing especially when you are not privy to the coverages being called.

It's raw data because it's a measurement without an additional layer of manipulation due to some formula or other analysis. Whether the measurement is subjective or not is irrelevant to its status as raw data. Either an event occurred or it did not. There may be some question as to definition of the event, but that's it.

I know that the ball was thrown into Hamlin's zone more than 15 times and I know that the ball was attempted with Hamlin in the area more than 15 times. What should be obvious is that there is something very important in how they assign attempts and completions to that we do not know.

No, you don't know that. In fact, you haven't a clue as to how many times it was thrown into his area, because you haven't gone through and made the determinations. When you do, I'll consider your statistics as evidence.

It could very well and probably does mean that they only assigned a target to a player if he was the primary or first coverage responsibility or if the player was isolated in coverage.

It could. Or it could mean something different. You'll have to e-mail them if you care to find out.

When a player is playing 15 yards off the line of scrimmage like Hamlin was constantly then it is fairly difficult to force single coverage on a player unless you use fancy formations and route combinations and even then if hes just playing the deep middle and giving help he is seldom going to be pinpointed for a target.

He was NEVER asked to cover anyone by himself. You never saw him try and take on TEs and the like but he just stayed in his Cover 3 zone for snap after snap.

Actually, he did single up on players on occasion, but it was rare just like every other free safety. No one puts their free safety in man coverage on a consistent basis. It's incredibly stupid football to do so. You'll get roasted if you do.

And he didn't constantly play 15 yards off the line or Cover 3 every down. We mixed up coverages a good bit. I don't expect that you actually know what we played or could even tell if you tried to figure it out.

Again for the 50th time you have no idea what calculus they used for saying someone was targeted. You sit there and look at it and say he wasnt targeted much. I see it as he wasn't isolated much but when he was he got torched.

He wasn't "torched" much at all. If you actually watched the games and looked at the secondary, you'd know this. If you think he was torched, then start naming the plays.

I don't bother reading line by line hodgepodges. No one else does either BTW. I figured you would say something that actually made sense like saying that QB rating was not effective because they play in zone coverage.

I think it's quite obvious that you don't actually read the posts and I'm glad that you're finally being honest. Your posts come off as nonsensical and irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Often times it's obvious that you barely even glance at the post before you reply.

As for sample sizes saying that its too small is unsubstantiated BS. First of all to say its a too small sample size it has to be a too small sample size to do something with and last time I checked no one was trying to correlate it to anything. You can certainly look at it and determine whether or not someone was successfully thrown on when it was attempted and when people threw on Hamlin he got torched.

15 passes is a small sample size over a single season to look at completion percentage and QB rating. That should be obvious to anyone. You're just grinding the argument into the ground because you have nowhere to go.

Name the plays where Hamlin was torched. You can't because you don't actually watch the games that closely, just like you don't actually read the posts your reply to. You have an extreme lack of attention to detail, which comes out in your typing, your phrasing, your logic, and your thought process.

 

[AporkalypseNow]

I'd love to draft Chad Jones from LSU. That guy is an excellent pass defender but can also come up and nail a running back.

 

[stilltheguru]

And misses tackles.

Hold up, you like Mega? *bows down to you*

 

[TonyRomo09]

how about Sensabaugh to FS Mike hamlin SS??

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Hold up, you like Mega? *bows down to you*

Cor...mega, raw foreva!