Hardy charges officially expunged

[dallasdave]

"head to toe in bruises"

OH BROTHER

 

[mickswag]

Your own lack of knowledge is now betraying you. It would have taken Hardy's lawyer about 2 seconds to get the testimony ruled inadmissible since he would not have the chance to cross examine her in the new trial.

Seriously. Stop living in fantasyland. The guy is a woman beater and a scumbag. That doesn't change just because of the uniform he wears on Sundays.

Still could have gotten her testimony in through the former testimony hearsay exception. She was crossed at the original trial. Good enough to get it in at the jury trial.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Not lay his hands on her. He's a 270lb DE who regularly beats the crap out of 300+lb OL.

Any defense of him here that starts with, "well she started it" is pretty pathetic, I don't care how coked up she was.

The better defense of Hardy is trying to argue that she inflicted these bruises on herself.

So some one is hitting you, scratching you, what ever. She's lucky bruises is all she got. Many woman get much worse for doing far less.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I'm surprised Jerry hasn't commented on this yet.

It's going to take a few bottles.

 

[Rogah]

Still could have gotten her testimony in through the former testimony hearsay exception. She was crossed at the original trial. Good enough to get it in at the jury trial.

That exclusion does not apply in this type of situation. So like I said.... it would have taken Hardy lawyer about 10 seconds to get her testimony transcript ruled inadmissible.

 

[DogFace]

You missed the point entirely. Go back to sleep.

Oh. So your "point" wasn't to correct someone's use of a phrase? Which in fact made no point at all. Only to have another poster show you the history of the the two similar phrases that are well known to most but not you. Must have been embarrassing.

 

[Brooksey]

Weird timing with the photos. Maybe the lawyer should have kept this quiet, they must have known there are pictures out there.

 

[fifaguy]

Hardy's a headcase. I'm sure he'll do something else to focus the media on us.

Exactly. Only a matter of time.

 

[DogFace]

You missed the point entirely. Go back to sleep.

Aven8 also used "I could care less" in another thread.
I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to either!!!!!

Get em!!!!!

 

[Sydla]

Seriously? Your lack of knowledge on this case betrays you. There were several witness testimonies presented at the bench trial. They could have been recalled for the appeal. Only the alleged victim was missing and they still had her bench trial testimony on record.

Who was in the room with them?

 

[DogFace]

I'm sad your a Cowboys fan.

I'm sad people think your is short for you are

 

[DFWJC]

It's a woman!!Bruises on her body. Are you wanting broken bones? There is no degrees here. You don't hit women despite what they take, etc. You don't. Simple

Just some fyi stuff.
He never hit her and everyone agrees on that.
He supposedly shoved her--must have been hard and into something--three times that night.
He was wrong.

My issue is that the Michelle Beadles of the world are lumping all of these cases together.
The horror of a women being in a relationship under the same roof with someone who repeatedly physically abuses and beats her is a nightmare. Something hard to escape for some.
This was nothing at all like that.
They weren't even dating anymore. She came to his house uninvited--so clearly not trapped...the opposite really.
He called 911 on her and she would not leave and was hitting him repeatedly.
His problem is that he could not keep his head and snapped. Huge mistake.
Millions of lost dollars later and two years of bashing by the media, maybe he should get a chance to to continue his cafreer.

 

[Craig]

So some one is hitting you, scratching you, what ever. She's lucky bruises is all she got. Many woman get much worse for doing far less.

I hope this is some kind of satire

 

[DogFace]

Just some fyi stuff.
He never hit her and everyone agrees on that.
He supposedly shoved her--must have been hard and into something--three times that night.
He was wrong.

My issue is that the Michelle Beadles of the world are lumping all of these cases together.
The horror of a women being in a relationship under the same roof with someone who repeatedly physically abuses and beats her is a nightmare. Something hard to escape for some.
This was nothing at all like that.
They weren't even dating anymore. She came to his house uninvited--so clearly not trapped...the opposite really.
He called 911 on her and she would not leave and was hitting him repeatedly.
His problem is that he could not keep his head and snapped. Huge mistake.
Millions of lost dollars later and two years of bashing by the media, maybe he should get a chance to to continue his cafreer.

Can anyone dispute any of this post?

 

[ghst187]

can he now sue Goodell and the NFL for lost pay and games missed....and likewise can Jerry also sue Goodell and the NFL for inappropriately losing a vital player during several games, esp over legally non-existent charges and case? If there is no real legal case then how can the NFL arbitrarily punish players? Even with the new personal conduct players agreement in existence how can the NFL punish someone when there is no legal case? If they can do that, then why can't anyone just go accuse Brady or Manning of rape or battery and force the NFL to suspend them?

 

[Chuck 54]

Anyone who thinks Hardy did nothing wrong is an idiot. What he did was terrible, and if his former girlfriend had cooperated, he wouldn't be playing for anyone. Opinion--those bruises are probably not from hours of abuse; more likely from being thrown on top of the guns and roughed up a bit there...still terrible.

That said, People make mistakes in all walks of life, and without a conviction, without a witness who wants to press charges, without any criminal history and no repeat offense, they don't lose their jobs. The NFL suspended him for ten games; an arbiter reduced it to four; he never fought it, but served it. I believe in second chances, and I'm happy he's a Cowboy...right now. If he gets in trouble again, he will be dead to me and likely forfeit his right to participate in his career. Ray Lewis and plenty of Hall of Fame players had histories as bad or worse. They were also given second chances.

Allowing a guy to work is not the same thing as condoning his crime/mistake. The only reason Rice isn't working right now is because he sucks and has little value. A man or woman who abuses his/her spouse does a reprehensible thing, but that has been part of the human existence forever, and the person isn't exiled from his/her career as a plumber, a salesman, or a banker. Society even goes out of its way to find jobs for convicted criminals upon release from prison, knowing that work is essential to existence and recovery. Make no mistake, playing football in the NFL is a job. Whether or not fans honor, glamorize, celebrate, or embrace the player is on the fan. The man or woman has a right to participate in his/her career, IMO.

Repeat offenses or other bad behavior, like with other offenses like theft, drugs, alcoholism, etc. changes everything. My personal decision is that I would never wear a Hardy jersey any more than I would fly the confederate flag from my pickup truck, but I support freedom and second chances, and I hope Hardy is successful in Dallas and in becoming a better person in control of himself.

 

[tyke1doe]

Oh. So your "point" wasn't to correct someone's use of a phrase? Which in fact made no point at all. Only to have another poster show you the history of the the two similar phrases that are well known to most but not you. Must have been embarrassing.

Again, you missed my point. Go back to sleep.

 

[tyke1doe]

Aven8 also used "I could care less" in another thread.
I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to either!!!!!

Get em!!!!!

Exactly why are you interested whom I correct and whom I don't?

Maybe you love me and want to be like me?

 

[tayloner]

I'm sad people think your is short for you are

Ha, yes, I clearly made an error, as 2 other people have already mentioned in this thread. Way to be on top of it. Anything to add about Greg Hardy, for or against?

 

[DogFace]

Ha, yes, I clearly made an error, as 2 other people have already mentioned in this thread. Way to be on top of it. Anything to add about Greg Hardy, for or against?

Thank you.
I'm very pro Hardy and feel there is a possibility the accuser was less than wholesome.