Hardy Suspension Reduced to 4 games *Merge*

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Rogah said:
The more widely accept theory for everyone on the planet (except certain members of this forum in extreme denial) is that the prosecutor was blocked from using the testimony by Hardy's lawyer, as it is his right to do.

Defendants also have the right to confront every witness, said Charlotte attorney Jim Cooney. Fialko may have successfully blocked Holder’s previous testimony and statements to police as a violation of this constitutional protection.

Besides, Cooney added, “Reading a two-hour transcript (from a previous trial) is about the worst way to present evidence that I know of, and if she’s not there, it presents substantial doubts about her credibility.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/incoming/article10422650.html#storylink=cpy

Dude, seriously. It's ok to admit that not everyone who wears the star on Sundays is a hero. Seriously. You can still root for the team without living in your ridiculously naïve, polyanna world. Seriously.
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The article you link to even backs up what I said, and completely contradicts yours. Sheesh.
 
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speedkilz88 said:
The key area is the last two paragraphs where he reviewed her testimony to her police interview and can't vouch for it. And despite his reliable information that there was a settlement. When pressed by media the DAs office said they could not provide anything about a settlement.

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Nail in coffin.
 
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Rogah said:
Not true. You either don't know what a grand jury is or you don't know what a bench trial is.

In a grand jury, the accused rarely gets to present a defense. Hardy was allowed to present his defense at the bench trial. Also, a grand jury has a much lower burden of proof. In fact, a grand jury doesn't have any burden of proof at all. They just need to decide if there is enough evidence to proceed with a prosecution. The bench trial has a high burden of proof: beyond a reasonable doubt.

But yeah, besides all that they're practically the same. :rolleyes:
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Five instances in this thread alone where you claim Hardy was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is simply not true. Stating it multiple times doesn't make it true either. However, the point is moot. The previous verdict was vacated. A simple fact that you (and others) cannot seem to come to terms with. What's disgusting is the league's inability to follow basic precedence. I see no evidence that the NFL is capable of applying disciplinary action in a consistent manner. Ruling by court of public opinion is b.s.
 
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Rogah said:
I didn't see that mod post. As such, I will stop correcting your errors regarding the trial in this particular thread, and leave that for the other threads.
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Your posts seem to show a clear disconnect from what is real and what is reality and what is speculation and what is a fact. Consistently.

As others have stated reapeating your completely nonfactual opinions over and over and over and over... don't make them true. Or close.
 

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yeah, I am in the "Just take this and move on" camp.
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I agree. And another benefit to that would be getting some youngsters some real game time reps for the first four weeks. That could be a huge plus for the possibility of making a run at it when post season comes around. The more effective they can become in a rotation, right at the time when you want your team to "peak", the better. Few occurances in a game can bolster a hot streak like your defensive line taking over. It's a pleasure to watch it happen. Harvey Martin, TooTall, Manster, Haley...We've had our fair share of those great lines! I can almost feel it coming back to us again!
I know some of you guys remember how Tom Landry use to preach about "peaking" at the right time. I can't remember the things he did to sort of manufacture a hot streak at the end of a season. Maybe I'm remembering wrong...I know he talked about peaking but I'm a little unsure whether or not he actually did things to try and influence a hot streak. I think he did. Any body else remember? Either way though, what a great man! Way ahead of his time!
 
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bkight13 said:
Rice officially had his charges dropped because he already went a year without trouble and Hardy just had his first appeal heard by the NFL

How is it possible they have taken 14 months to investigate a one hour argument? If they weren't going to rely on the Courts they could have adjudicated this last summer.

Hardy has already missed 15 games, still has to serve 4 more and still has to be reinstated from the Commissioner's list.
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I thought he was reinstated from the Commissioner's list, which is why he is allowed to practice and play in pre-season games. He missed 15 games, but he was paid for them. Those games are not considered a part of any suspension. They don't have to rely on the courts, but they do let things play out in the courts first. Hardy delayed his court case over and over and kept pushing it back, which is why any decisions from the NFL weren't made until this year. By official rules and regulations Ray Rice has served official suspensions while Hardy has not. Nothing amazing about that.
 
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JDSmith said:
You might as well lock the thread now.

That post wasn't even 5 posts after you said to keep it on track. It can't possibly stay on track because the people who think he's a woman beater want him suspended forever and never to see the field for the Cowboys. People who think he got railroaded think he shouldn't be suspended at all. The entire crux of the discussion about suspension length and appeal is a person's opinion about whether or not he actually did anything. And CCBoy made a point to try and stay away from the trial and case, but you simply can't do it because everyone's opinions are formed based off of the evidence. From the appeal aspect there is nothing left to say, he'll appeal or the NFLPA will, otherwise he'll accept 4 games. That's it, end of discussion on that topic. There is no way for anyone to say anything new about that.
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I just want so see the proof that he did something wrong. I haven't seen it yet.
 
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