Hardy Suspension Reduced to 4 games *Merge*

[GimmeTheBall!]

Why are so manys selling there souls for what i think will be a marginal player for us.
That could half been your daughter, sister or mother.
let us not diminish the crime. Yes, dismissed. We say that to cleanse our souls but we know he DID do wrong and avoided jail.
We can espect short term benefits, maybe, but the star stands for a whole lot better.
That he did something terrible is one thing but to root for the concept of getting away with it be repugnantistant to me.
Let us not be proud we half dodged the bullet but thankful that OTHERS half forgiveness and grace that the miscreant did not. I will be in hiding at the Rotarians retreat in the woods so no one try look for me.

 

[Kaiser]

FACT: In the one trial that went to completion, Hardy was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by someone who is not an "internet lawyer".

Serious question - you have spent weeks posting the same thing repeatedly and obviously haven't read much on the case. Are you really claiming to be something above the level of "Internet Lawyer"?

And FYI, we have plenty of lawyers on this board that know this case and have said the opposite of what you do.

 

[Kaiser]

That could half been your daughter, sister or mother.

If my daughter, sister or mother gave completely conflicting sworn testimony to police and to a Judge I would urge them to avoid the courts after that as well.

 

[speedkilz88]

That is an outright lie and anyone with a modicum of familiarity with this case knows it.

The fact that you have to lie to support your argument really only proves that your argument is intellectually bankrupt.

The key area is the last two paragraphs where he reviewed her testimony to her police interview and can't vouch for it. And despite his reliable information that there was a settlement. When pressed by media the DAs office said they could not provide anything about a settlement.

 

[Nightman]

Why are so manys selling there souls for what i think will be a marginal player for us.
That could half been your daughter, sister or mother.
let us not diminish the crime. Yes, dismissed. We say that to cleanse our souls but we know he DID do wrong and avoided jail.
We can espect short term benefits, maybe, but the star stands for a whole lot better.
That he did something terrible is one thing but to root for the concept of getting away with it be repugnantistant to me.
Let us not be proud we half dodged the bullet but thankful that OTHERS half forgiveness and grace that the miscreant did not. I will be in hiding at the Rotarians retreat in the woods so no one try look for me.

Is your sister a gold digging coke ho? What's her number?

 

[Nightman]

Serious question - you have spent weeks posting the same thing repeatedly and obviously haven't read much on the case. Are you really claiming to be something above the level of "Internet Lawyer"?

And FYI, we have plenty of lawyers on this board that know this case and have said the opposite of what you do.

I just read on PFT that Linda Friel submitted a 92 page report for the Hardy investigation and didn't even testify.

Hardy himself didn't even testify.

It makes you wonder what took so long and what his ultimate decision was based on.

 

[Joe_Fan]

honestly I'd take this and move on.

I'm right there with you. Let's get to work and if Brady's suspension gets reduced can't wait to see Hardy tee off on him.

But as other posters mentioned it should only be 2 games at the most.

 

[Kaiser]

It makes you wonder what took so long and what his ultimate decision was based on.

I don't know the process with the Players Association appeal, but the timing (slow news days in the dog days of summer) and the fact it was four games makes me think the league made this move hoping Hardy would take this and move on, so they can put it all behind them. They know they are railroading the guy, the league would be much better off if all this was swept under a rug.

 

[Joe_Fan]

I don't know the process with the Players Association appeal, but the timing (slow news days in the dog days of summer) and the fact it was four games makes me think the league made this move hoping Hardy would take this and move on, so they can put it all behind them. They know they are railroading the guy, the league would be much better off if all this was swept under a rug.

I'll be honest when I say I wish he had gotten a 2 game suspension and we could be done with it. With that being said though it got reduced to 4 games, in which we're facing the Giants, Eagles, Falcons and Saints.

 

[Rogah]

Serious question - you have spent weeks posting the same thing repeatedly and obviously haven't read much on the case.

I think it's clear I know as much about this case as anyone. Just because I don't come to the same conclusions doesn't counter that.

Why don't you call out the guy who said the case was dismissed? Oh wait, he agrees with you.... so you ignore it when people who agree with you prove they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

Are you really claiming to be something above the level of "Internet Lawyer"?

No, my post was a continuation from earlier where I pointed out the FACT that in the one trial he had that went to completion, the judge found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

She's the one I am referring to as a tad bit more than "an Internet lawyer."

And FYI, we have plenty of lawyers on this board that know this case and have said the opposite of what you do.

Well if you want to use appeal to authority, then I'll go with the judge who actually heard the case over the lawyer who read some news articles.

 

[Rogah]

I just read on PFT that Linda Friel submitted a 92 page report for the Hardy investigation and didn't even testify.

Hardy himself didn't even testify.

Geez you'd think if he was innocent, he'd have no problem testifying....

Guess he was terrified of cross examination.... Wonde why.

 

[erod]

My gut says this was negotiated, and Hardy agreed not to appeal for four games.

We'll see.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry, but you'll have to try harder. The case was not dismissed; rather, the charges were dropped. Newsflash: There's a difference.

Gee, for someone lecturing others on how ignorant they are, you sure don't seem terribly well educated yourself.

FACT: In the one trial that went to completion, Hardy was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by someone who is not an "internet lawyer".

The two are not mutually exclusive. He is isn't exercising, he's running!

Was the judge in the first case aware of the inconsistencies in Holders testimony?

DA dropped the case because he knew he would lose. It is what it is. You can pretend had he went ahead anyway that he would have won in you like.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Geez you'd think if he was innocent, he'd have no problem testifying....

Guess he was terrified of cross examination.... Wonde why.

Hardy testified at the bench trial.

Oh and

But the domestic violence case was dismissed a few seconds after court began Monday morning.

http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/crim...-be-complicated-in-greg-hardy-trial/23008195/

 

[blindzebra]

I think it's clear I know as much about this case as anyone. Just because I don't come to the same conclusions doesn't counter that.

Why don't you call out the guy who said the case was dismissed? Oh wait, he agrees with you.... so you ignore it when people who agree with you prove they obviously don't know what they are talking about.
No, my post was a continuation from earlier where I pointed out the FACT that in the one trial he had that went to completion, the judge found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

She's the one I am referring to as a tad bit more than "an Internet lawyer."
Well if you want to use appeal to authority, then I'll go with the judge who actually heard the case over the lawyer who read some news articles.

In Carolina the first trial is basically a grand jury to see if there is a need for an actual trial. A lawyer from that area posted months ago that it is uncommon for the judge to not proceed with the case in such matters, especially when the accused is a black man and the accuser is a white woman.

And fyi, it was dismissed the freaking statement from the DA closes with those very words.

 

[Philmonroe]

Why are so manys selling there souls for what i think will be a marginal player for us.
That could half been your daughter, sister or mother.
let us not diminish the crime. Yes, dismissed. We say that to cleanse our souls but we know he DID do wrong and avoided jail.
We can espect short term benefits, maybe, but the star stands for a whole lot better.
That he did something terrible is one thing but to root for the concept of getting away with it be repugnantistant to me.
Let us not be proud we half dodged the bullet but thankful that OTHERS half forgiveness and grace that the miscreant did not. I will be in hiding at the Rotarians retreat in the woods so no one try look for me.

I don't go by the heart strings ploy on this stuff. I think I can comfortably say none of us have saw the evidence so how do we know what really happened? Was it as violent as it was made to sound or not none of,us know for sure. I think we can agree on that. That's why absent of pics or something and what I know about the case I can't just say he did it for sure. You'd think if he beat her up like was claimed somebody some how would have gotten leaked pictures or something like JPP medical records. I don't see any of that but I'm just supposed to go off imagination to say he's guilty? That's led to a lot of trouble in this country and probably the world going off hearse with no real proof.

This isn't about your post but just another thing I really dislike when people say its a privilege to play in the nfl. No stuff its also a privilege to work at Burger King so what are you really saying? It just sounds like those people are mad about folks making a lot of money that most of us will never see.

 

[DogFace]

Are you kidding? Don't you know how miserable this announcement will make some people???!? They can't whine about how much the league office hates Dallas and how unfair it was they had to wait so long and that Brady got his appeal settled first, etc etc!!

There is a large contingent in this forum who are only happy when they have something to complain about!!!

We will always have your posts to complain about

 

[DandyDon52]

The sad and amazing fact is that Ray Rice is eligible to play and Greg Hardy is not

good point.
I would seem some fans here still have hardy on trial lol !
some say 4 games is too much, but 2 games is ok ?? lol
others say he should not even be a cowboy and others say he did no wrong ?

I am ok with 4 games or whatever it winds up being. as I said before the suspension only punishes the team and fans not the player.

 

[Fredd]

Is your sister a gold digging coke ho? What's her number?

I half to belief that she might be;

 

[AzorAhai]

You have ZERO knowledge yourself. I do know that he did something and I can sure as hell say lucky and sickening. I have my opinion and you have yours.

Like I said you dont have any INSIDE knowledge. Have you even read up on the details and discrepancies? If you have and still "know he did something" then you're beyond help. With the facts that are known to the public, ASSUMING guilt is asinine. Or are you just repeating and blindly believing this group think crap like the god awful media like it seems?