Hardy will serve 4 games

KJJ

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Again I ask you, can a DA move forward on charges without the accuser, yes or no? I believe we both already know the answer

They can move ahead but they chose not to because it would have been hard to get a conviction without the cooperation of the accuser.
 

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So now you're dealing with hopes and wishes and allegations. No facts. Typical KJJ.

That's funny coming from a FAN like you. LOL Every opinion you have of the Cowboys is based on hopes and wishes.
 

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I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the "He wanted it to all go away" rationale.
With the focus the NFL has on domestic violence, you almost have to fight the suspension, ESPECIALLY, when your case was dismissed.
And I find the spotlight argument a shallow one. He's playing for the DALLAS COWBOYS!!! You think this is going to be the last mention of his domestic abuse case? You think if Dallas makes the Super Bowl his situation isn't going to be discussed or written about by, oh, the thousands of media personnel during Super Bowl week?
I've maintained all along I believe he isn't as innocent as some want to make him seem. He did SOMETHING! And, yes, not challenging this case leads me to believe this, in light of what I mentioned above.
He wants to make it go away, alright. I'm disappointed he didn't challenge the NFL's suspension, if he was indeed innocent.
And if he isn't, then I'll accept the suspension as fitting for his involvement in a situation of his own making.
See ya for the New England game, Greg.

Your stance makes no sense. If the fact that this case was legally thrown out and now being expunged from his record doesn't convince you he was innocent, no amount of continuing to contest the issue would convince you otherwise. Your opinion would remain what it is... he got away with "something".

You are also wrong in thinking that this case will follow him forever. The charges were dismissed. People do move on from these things. Did Ray Lewis's case haunt him? The answer is no it did not. As time goes on he has rehabilitated his reputation and career... just as Mr. Hardy will do.

This case will only linger in the minds of those that will not let it go. I very small minority of society. Even if he did do "something", christians forgive and forget. Perhaps that's not your way but that only effects you. Greg Hardy is putting this issue behind him and now living a blessed life.
 

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Your stance makes no sense. If the fact that this case was legally thrown out and now being expunged from his record doesn't convince you he was innocent, no amount of continuing to contest the issue would convince you otherwise. Your opinion would remain what it is... he got away with "something".

It makes no sense to YOU. You forgot that operative word.

You are also wrong in thinking that this case will follow him forever. The charges were dismissed. People do move on from these things. Did Ray Lewis's case haunt him? The answer is no it did not. As time goes on he has rehabilitated his reputation and career... just as Mr. Hardy will do.

Huh? Did I say this case would follow him forever? And you said my stance makes no sense. :laugh:
See, this is why people start creating straw men, because their arguments/rebuttals are weak. You don't think this is going to be a story if the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl? Really?

This case will only linger in the minds of those that will not let it go. I very small minority of society. Even if he did do "something", christians forgive and forget. Perhaps that's not your way but that only effects you. Greg Hardy is putting this issue behind him and now living a blessed life.

Uh, Christian forgiveness doesn't involve forgetting. In fact, the greater the wrong, the more it takes to forgive because it's the factor of not being able to forget that makes Christian forgiveness powerful. We forgive despite our memory of the wrong. Besides, Christian forgiveness is about restoration of relationship.

Be that as it may, you twisted my comments to say what you wanted it to say. I stated my opinion. If you don't like it, fine. But it still remains my opinion.
 

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I stated my opinion. If you don't like it, fine. But it still remains my opinion.

So keep with your wrong judgement of Hardy and thinking he did "something". It still only effects you. Greg Hardy is moving on with his blessed life with a new GF and newborn. I hope he enjoys his time with them while he is on break the next four weeks and then comes back as good as ever.
 

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Imagine this thread x100 and that is why Hardy wants it go away.

Some people just insist on piling on and avoiding the fact that charges were dropped.

They will just keep convicting him over and over again.
 

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They can move ahead but they chose not to because it would have been hard to get a conviction without the cooperation of the accuser.

the cooperation of an addict whose story changed multiple times. Yeah sure go live in your fantasy world. FACT is that the DA only went as far as he did because of all the publicity. Any halfway competent Defense Attorney would have torn her apart on the stand and the DA KNEW THAT. The chances of getting a conviction were 100-1 Against.
 

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Imagine this thread x100 and that is why Hardy wants it go away.

Some people just insist on piling on and avoiding the fact that charges were dropped.

They will just keep convicting him over and over again.

Big Ben walks around with that very same albatross around his neck. Nobody cares.
 

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Big Ben walks around with that very same albatross around his neck. Nobody cares.

I'm not talking about perception. I'm saying that Florio and BSPN would cover the appeal extensively after the way Brady just beat the League. They wouldn't talk about the process or the charges being dropped. They wouanld re-try the case just they did with Brady, talking about the footballs and the phone and the proof.

Hardy just had a child with his new GF and the last thing he wants is to talk about Nicole Holder. He might get 2 games reduced but it might take another 6 months to a year. If they decided in Dec and he had to miss games late in the season it would hurt Dallas and then he would have to appeal to full Circuit or the Supreme Court.

It is his decision and I applaud him for taking one for the team and getting it over with. OTOH if he decided to fight it all the way I would have respected that decision as well.
 

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I'm not talking about perception. I'm saying that Florio and BSPN would cover the appeal extensively after the way Brady just beat the League. They wouldn't talk about the process or the charges being dropped. They wouanld re-try the case just they did with Brady, talking about the footballs and the phone and the proof.

Hardy just had a child with his new GF and the last thing he wants is to talk about Nicole Holder. He might get 2 games reduced but it might take another 6 months to a year. If they decided in Dec and he had to miss games late in the season it would hurt Dallas and then he would have to appeal to full Circuit or the Supreme Court.

It is his decision and I applaud him for taking one for the team and getting it over with. OTOH if he decided to fight it all the way I would have respected that decision as well.

Would they need to? It's already been discussed. Wouldn't be "news" if they just rehashed over the same stuff every day and ignored recent developments.
 

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He might get 2 games reduced but it might take another 6 months to a year.
Exactly what you said. Considering what he would have gone thru just to get his suspension reduced 2 games wasn't worth the cost. It would have easily taken those 6 months and I'll bet much closer to a year. Put it behind you and move on. Avoid all the extra attention, drama and bad PR.
 

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So keep with your wrong judgement of Hardy and thinking he did "something". It still only effects you. Greg Hardy is moving on with his blessed life with a new GF and newborn. I hope he enjoys his time with them while he is on break the next four weeks and then comes back as good as ever.

Oh, stop your sensitivity whining. If my opinion only affects me, why are YOU getting all bent out of shape about?
Hardy doesn't care about my opinion or yours so why do you feel the need to defend him?
Sorry, but this forum is for all opinions, not just the ones that make YOU feel all warm and fuzzy.
 

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Radio is speculating he didn't wanna get dragged thru the mud again, makes sense. Let sleeping dogs lie...

Since the front office was confident early in the week he wasnt appealing, I think they might have asked him not to. Reason being that they did not want to get an injunction only to have it overturned, and have to serve the suspension late in the season or in the playoffs. In other words they wanted to know he would be available from the 5th game on, barring injury.
 

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Oh, stop your sensitivity whining. If my opinion only affects me, why are YOU getting all bent out of shape about?
Hardy doesn't care about my opinion or yours so why do you feel the need to defend him?
Sorry, but this forum is for all opinions, not just the ones that make YOU feel all warm and fuzzy.

See what you did there? You twisted my comment around to say what you wanted it to say after accusing me of doing the same thing.

I'm not trying to discourage you from offering your wayward opinion, I welcome it. It's just what I need on those rare occasions I get to feeling too warm and fuzzy inside. It snaps me right out of my good mood and gets me to melancholy in no time at all, thank you. Keep up the good work!
 

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See what you did there? You twisted my comment around to say what you wanted it to say after accusing me of doing the same thing.

Okay, so where did I twist your comment?

I'm not trying to discourage you from offering your wayward opinion, I welcome it.

Oh, stop lying. The tone and tenor of your response betrays you. You are angered by my comments. And people who are naturally angry at something don't welcome it. Save your rhetoric for someone who doesn't understand language and who can't distinguish a dictionary from a phone book.

It's just what I need on those rare occasions I get to feeling too warm and fuzzy inside. It snaps me right out of my good mood and gets me to melancholy in no time at all, thank you. Keep up the good work!

Okay, if you say so. :huh::rolleyes:
 
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