Has your opinion of Drew changed?

Dogstar said:
I have to honestly say that everytime I see Drew make a boneheaded play my opinion slips a bit. Mostly, it's my faith that he is a play maker. When the chips are down he seldom rises up from the ashes. Not that he NEVER does, he seldom does.

I want to see him break loose and make a spectacular play and it never seems to happen.

Dogstar - just using your post to elaborate on. I agree with what you wrote for the most part. That is why I am attaching mine here.

Its when he makes that boneheaded play that I STILL believe that later in the game he will give us a chance to win. We have seen him do it. Agreed not often enough.

I would like to see more.

Be smart.

Make good decisions.
 
JuliusCaesar said:
Parcells Quote
"All quarterbacks need the same thing. They need the time or the separation from receivers," Parcells said. "Sometimes the strategy that we employ to try and help one person or two people is inhibiting because the coverage gets more secure on the few guys that we have involved in the route ... assign the blame to who you choose to."

All quarterbacks need the same thing. They need the time or the separation from receivers," Parcells said.

I agree 100%.

Of course the guy can throw the ball, 40,000 yards or so proves that.

Its just that some QB can buy a little extra time, unfortunatly Drew cannot. That is the difference.
 
Jarv said:
Its just that some QB can buy a little extra time, unfortunatly Drew cannot. That is the difference.

Ever seen Peyton buy any extra time by scrambling out of the pocket? No more than Drew...
 
JuliusCaesar said:
Ever seen Peyton buy any extra time by scrambling out of the pocket? No more than Drew...

Maybe not scrambling, but to answer that - Yes, all the time. It's called "sidestepping". Maybe Bledsoe should take some lessons.
 
Kilyin said:
Maybe not scrambling, but to answer that - Yes, all the time. It's called "sidestepping". Maybe Bledsoe should take some lessons.

What he said.

Wow Kilyn, we seem to agree about a lot. Sorry about that thing at detox the other day.
 
Kilyin said:
Maybe not scrambling, but to answer that - Yes, all the time. It's called "sidestepping". Maybe Bledsoe should take some lessons.

Sidestepping looks good when you have some semblance of a pocket. You have to have an area to sidestep too...
 
JuliusCaesar said:
Sidestepping looks good when you have some semblance of a pocket. You have to have an area to sidestep too...

I finally watched the game yesterday. The way I see it, Superman has more room to change in a phone booth than Bledsoe had to move around against that pass rush.
 
JuliusCaesar said:
Sidestepping looks good when you have some semblance of a pocket. You have to have an area to sidestep too...

Payton has more obility, not saying he very mobile, but more than drew. He also has a faster release and reads defenses better.

If you were to ask 32 GM's in the leauge who is a better QB, you would probably have 99% of them say Payton. He wasn't a good QB to use your argument for Drew being good.
 
I don't 'like' or 'dislike' him, really..his personality, style of play, and entire demeanor have never floated my boat, but I couldn't say I 'dislike' him.

The better question would have been "did you think the Cowboys were getting the QB both the Patriots and Bills felt could not lead them to the Big Dance, and is he subsequently proving that now here?"

To that, I would answer yes.

Great arm, but simply not mentally or physically quick enough to make great things happen often enough. A bus driver who can win if all the rest of the pieces are firmly in place, but will never carry a team. Like every QB, flawed and limited, but unfortunately, decent mobility and the ability to read the field fast is a necessity on most teams today.

I hope either Henson or Romo is starting next year.
 
big_neil said:
Which of the four combinations are you:

1) You liked Drew before and you still do
2) You didn't like Drew before and you still don't
3) You liked Drew before but you don't now
4) You didn't like Drew before but you do now.

Well-at least the Dallas sports media is very objective, at least compared to the Philly sport writers. When TO came to Philly, they were OVER-ly kind to him. However-from the word GO, the Dallas sportswriters KNEW Drew could be Parcells' undoing here.

Anyhow-if Drew was never so stubborn throughout his career, he would be a GREAT QB. So what if he's not mobile? The other "Drew Purdue"(Brees, that is) is hardly that either-but he's LEARNED to do the little things(i.e. step aside, move around in the pocket, step into his throws, anticipate pressure, etc). There's NO excuse for a 13 year vet to NOT have these workman-like skills.

And no-the G-Nats' D isn't GREAT. Drew had many opportunities to make plays, but chickened-out. This wasn't the same guy in week 1 that was under alot more pressure, but managed to light it up against a very good SD team.

To be fair to Parcells though-he inherited a mess of a foundation from Jerry. His only decent option was to go back to his ties that brought in a previous winning formula.
 
Jarv said:
Payton has more obility, not saying he very mobile, but more than drew. He also has a faster release and reads defenses better.

If you were to ask 32 GM's in the leauge who is a better QB, you would probably have 99% of them say Payton. He wasn't a good QB to use your argument for Drew being good.

99%? Try 100% and it is Peyton not Payton. I think Peyton is better than Drew as well, I think he's the best QB in the league which is why I used him as an example of a quarterback who needs just as much protection as Drew. extremely intelligent.
 
LaTunaNostra said:
The better question would have been "did you think the Cowboys were getting the QB both the Patriots and Bills felt could not lead them to the Big Dance, and is he subsequently proving that now here?"

To that, I would answer yes.

The Patriots felt he couldn't lead them to the big dance? Is that the case? Seeing as he won two AFC Championship games with the Patriots in 1996 and 2001 delivering them to the "big dance" I think that's a complete load of bull ****. You think what you want about him proving your theory here the fact is this offensive line is sub par and everybody knows it. It is this bad mainly due to injury, but at its best this season the offensive line's play has been adequate and in one game (Philadelhpia) it was good. Fans that understand football realize what the problem is with this offense and they know it isn't Drew Bledsoe.
 
These pro and anti-Drew threads are starting to become really hysterical.

FWIW-Parcells might think about bringing in Chris Palmer. The year the Pats went to the Super Bowl, Tuna brought him in to help clean up his mechanics. Result? Bledose had his very best year of his career.

Come to think of it, I believe I recall Drew doing all the little things right that year-anticipating pressure and stepping into his throw, moving around the pocket a bit, getting rid of the ball quicker, etc.

I dunno-Pete Carroll was more of a player's coach, more like an anti-Parcells. When he came in afterwards, Drew might have developed bad habits.
 
Interesting - at the start of the season 1/3 people didn't like Drew. Now only 1/6 people don't like Drew.

So he won over half his naysayers despite the recent slump.

Hang in there. Drew is 27-18 in his career in December, and that never had the luxury of 2 games in Dallas (and 1 at warmer Carolina). (it was Buffalo and NE)
 
LaTunaNostra said:
The better question would have been "did you think the Cowboys were getting the QB both the Patriots and Bills felt could not lead them to the Big Dance, and is he subsequently proving that now here?"

To that, I would answer yes.

Well his rating is currently 86.1, which means this is his 2nd highest rating of his career. To expect more is to be unrealistic. To be disappointed is unfair to Drew.
 
JuliusCaesar said:
99%? Try 100% and it is Peyton not Payton. I think Peyton is better than Drew as well, I think he's the best QB in the league which is why I used him as an example of a quarterback who needs just as much protection as Drew. extremely intelligent.

Hail Caeser !

Opps, my bad I spelled Peyton wrong...Ya got me bro !

As far as saying Peyton needs as much protection as Bledsoe, well I guess we'll have to disagree on that.

Fair enough for you ?
 
Nope not at all. I hate to say it but my opinion is slowly starting to change about Parcells. I was probably the most excited person in Cowboys Land when Jerry brought him here. But his hard headedness and apparent refusal to open things up a bit is starting to ware on me a little
 
big_neil said:
Well his rating is currently 86.1, which means this is his 2nd highest rating of his career. To expect more is to be unrealistic. To be disappointed is unfair to Drew.
You are one scary individual.
 

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