Have the Cowboys given up on Henson?

[speedkilz88]

They can open up a practice squad spot and brought in the most interesting prospects, but interest in Dustin Long is not going to alert other teams because he isn't a blip on their radar.

The Canadian guy was scouted by the Cowboys at best, they didn't even offer the guy a workout like other teams , that guy isn't a blip on the Cowboys radar.

Neither is even remotely close to being the prospect of Henson or Romo.

 

[jksmith269]

a few weeks ago, Parcells was asked about Henson, and he said he's doing very well in practice

and why he was quick to say ROmo, when asked who would start if Bledsoe goes down, it's because Romo won the #2 job in camp, and before camp started, Parcells said that whoever won the #2 job, would be #2 for the whole year, and they wouldn't rotate like they did at the end of '04, so it's natural that Romo would be 1st off the bench should Bledsoe go down, because that's what #2 QBs do

idk what to make about working out these 2 QBs, but...

none of them have near the talent of Henson, and a workout will tell the braintrust next to nothing

so until I see or hear Parcells say that the development of Henson is going slower than expected, and/or he sees no future in Henson, and that he's letting him go, I think Henson's future is very much safe...

What Talent? how can you know what he has? If your basing it on his college career then you are misguided. because what I saw this preseason and the few times he played last year I'd say he's at best a third string QB. So how can you or anyone of us say he has more or less talent as Romo, or anyother QB we haven't seen play since preseason?

Do I think Henson is gone? Yes I do. JJ has a habit of wanting to make something out of nothing see hutch and now Henson and I think he's finally seeing the light. And I hope this is his last venture into turning wanna be baseball players into QB's. If either one of them truly loved FB then they never would have chose BB over it and in doing so they ruined any hope of ever having a meaningful FB career. IMO!

I just get so tired of all the HENSON HOMERS who base everything off college how many players drafted in the top two rounds are busts each year? now look at henson he missed over 2 years of playing, studing, and practicing FB, and yet you will say give him time if it where any other player most would be saying get him out of here.

 

[Hostile]

You said from Day 1?? Lets review what you were saying last year shall we. All this was said up until around feb-march of THIS year then you changed stances


"No, I want to see Henson play a full year before doing anything."

"....7: Henson will have had 2 training camps and a season to learn

That looks like a potentially great football team."

"Yet another reason Henson should be playing "

"Drew Henson is this teams future, and whether he looks good now or not he will be our QB next year. "

One of my favorites!

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All this talk of signing a QB when we might very well have the next Tom Brady or Joe Montana in Henson and dont even know it yet!!! People, those of you saying hes no good give him a chance!!!"

"I'll say this...Henson has looked better in his short time than Eli Manning has all year and Eli has started kbow what, 7 games"

"I agree, talent wise Henson is matched by very few."

HH >>> :spanking: <<< BigD

 

[BigDFan5]

HH >>> :spanking: <<< BigD

:thankyou: :whip:

 

[junk]

What Talent? how can you know what he has? If your basing it on his college career then you are misguided. because what I saw this preseason and the few times he played last year I'd say he's at best a third string QB. So how can you or anyone of us say he has more or less talent as Romo, or anyother QB we haven't seen play since preseason?

Do I think Henson is gone? Yes I do. JJ has a habit of wanting to make something out of nothing see hutch and now Henson and I think he's finally seeing the light. And I hope this is his last venture into turning wanna be baseball players into QB's. If either one of them truly loved FB then they never would have chose BB over it and in doing so they ruined any hope of ever having a meaningful FB career. IMO!

I just get so tired of all the HENSON HOMERS who base everything off college how many players drafted in the top two rounds are busts each year? now look at henson he missed over 2 years of playing, studing, and practicing FB, and yet you will say give him time if it where any other player most would be saying get him out of here.

And I get tired of people ready to give up on a player if he doesn't show anything RIGHTNOW. People were ready to cut Barber this offseason. Bradie James took until his third year to show much. They took awhile to develop and they had been actively playing at major college programs. It isn't going to happen overnight and anyone that thinks it will is fooling themselves.

Your third QB should be a young guy who doesn't make much with some potential. I think that describes Henson. He had a rough camp this year by all accounts. He had a great camp the year before that. What happened? Who knows? But I am still willing to give a guy who has been away from the game awhile at least that three year window. BP and Landry both go by it.

Read between some of the lines. Henson has become pretty tight with Bledsoe. Maybe he is a smart guy and just figured he should soak things up from the vet. Maybe BP whispered in his ear to become his shadow. How often do you see #7 hovering in the background behind BP and Payton?

IMO, he is a smart kid with some upside who has been away from the game. Still a young guy. Doesn't make squat. Send him to Europe, get him some conditioning.

I've watched Long. He was OK at I-AA, but so were tons of others. I don't think he even went to a camp. If Dallas wants another I-AA QB, I'd look at Ochs myself.

 

[speedkilz88]

What Talent? how can you know what he has? If your basing it on his college career then you are misguided. because what I saw this preseason and the few times he played last year I'd say he's at best a third string QB. So how can you or anyone of us say he has more or less talent as Romo, or anyother QB we haven't seen play since preseason?

Do I think Henson is gone? Yes I do. JJ has a habit of wanting to make something out of nothing see hutch and now Henson and I think he's finally seeing the light. And I hope this is his last venture into turning wanna be baseball players into QB's. If either one of them truly loved FB then they never would have chose BB over it and in doing so they ruined any hope of ever having a meaningful FB career. IMO!

I just get so tired of all the HENSON HOMERS who base everything off college how many players drafted in the top two rounds are busts each year? now look at henson he missed over 2 years of playing, studing, and practicing FB, and yet you will say give him time if it where any other player most would be saying get him out of here.

Its his second freaking year! They signed him to a long term contract so that they could develop him, thats how you develop a qb.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What Talent? how can you know what he has? If your basing it on his college career then you are misguided. because what I saw this preseason and the few times he played last year I'd say he's at best a third string QB. So how can you or anyone of us say he has more or less talent as Romo, or anyother QB we haven't seen play since preseason?

Do I think Henson is gone? Yes I do. JJ has a habit of wanting to make something out of nothing see hutch and now Henson and I think he's finally seeing the light. And I hope this is his last venture into turning wanna be baseball players into QB's. If either one of them truly loved FB then they never would have chose BB over it and in doing so they ruined any hope of ever having a meaningful FB career. IMO!

I just get so tired of all the HENSON HOMERS who base everything off college how many players drafted in the top two rounds are busts each year? now look at henson he missed over 2 years of playing, studing, and practicing FB, and yet you will say give him time if it where any other player most would be saying get him out of here.

what talent? how about the talent that many assumed he would have been the #1 player taken had he stayed in school

the talent, that the Texans drafted him in the 6th round, even though he was still under contract, and playing, with the Yankees

the talent, that when he decided he wanted to go back to football, that he impressed the watchers so much, that Dallas decided to spend a 1st day pick on him, 3rd, and then give him an 8-year deal

that talent doesn't just go away before you hit 30

and if he had no talent, why is Dallas still developing him? guess he's a really, good looking guy then...

why do you think Henson is gone? do you have any proof? you have as much proof as those saying that Henson still has a future, and we're not the only ones saying, give him time, I believe Parcells is saying that too, and Jerry Jones, when they told the media that it's going to be a process with him, and Bill saying this offseason, that he believes he has a future in Dallas...

 

[chinch]

isn't Henson signed to like a 7 year contract?

what is the hurry?

 

[thewivil]

If Henson doesn't show some real progression in NFLE this upcoming year, I'm betting that Dallas will cut their losses with him. With the way it's going now, by the time Henson is ready, he'll only have a couple good years left in him before it's time for him to retire.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

actions speak louder than words

Henson is on the team, Printers and Long, aren't

that's all there is to it really

 

[KingTuna]

Henson has always been a long term "project". Bledsoe will be our starter for probably another 3 seasons after this year. (pending an extension that I REALLy think is coming in this off-season) No rush on Henson.

 

[gimmesix]

Its his second freaking year! They signed him to a long term contract so that they could develop him, thats how you develop a qb.

Develop?!!! I thought we were supposed to just rip open a pack of Instant-QB.

You mean Parcells' three-year evaluation plan he learned from Landry also applies to quarterbacks?

Sorry, couldn't help myself ... all those writing off Henson now please resume your regular-scheduled bashing.

 

[thewivil]

I don't think anyone should be writing off Henson yet. But if he doesn't show some real progress this next season, I think there will be some legitimate concerns. You can't keep babying him. At some point, he's going to have to show that he belongs in the NFL and can run an offense.

He'll have had two full seasons to develop and a season of NFLE under his belt, by the time the regular season begins next year. If he can't show that he's a competent quarterback by then, I really don't know what to say other than he shouldn't be on the Cowboys' roster.

Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the guy. I've defended him from day one, and believe he has the tools to be the future at QB for us. But I'm just wondering when that promise will turn into production.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't think anyone should be writing off Henson yet. But if he doesn't show some real progress this next season, I think there will be some legitimate concerns. You can't keep babying him. At some point, he's going to have to show that he belongs in the NFL and can run an offense.

He'll have had two full seasons to develop and a season of NFLE under his belt, by the time the regular season begins next year. If he can't show that he's a competent quarterback by then, I really don't know what to say other than he shouldn't be on the Cowboys' roster.

Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the guy. I've defended him from day one, and believe he has the tools to be the future at QB for us. But I'm just wondering when that promise will turn into production.

that's all anyone should ask of Henson

 

[jterrell]

Drew Henson is a 3rd string QB. He is not a hot shot prospect or can't miss stud anymore. Now he is a 3rd string QB. No matter anyone on the board's opinion of him at the end of the day he isn't even getting to run the Dallas Cowboys offense in practice, he runs scout team.

IF Parcells signs an extension in the off-season my guess is Henson goes to NFLE and if he is not stellar there he gets cut before camp. We'd bring in someone like Dustin Long to be the new 3rd QB for the rookie minimum and keep Romo in place as the experienced backup. However IF Henson is stellar there he probably comes to camp with an even shot at winning the backup job and catapulting back into QB of the future consideration. Thats exactly why he should have went to NFLE last year. I would send a QB EVERY YEAR. Some QB would go. You never know when the lights are gonna come on for a guy or if they will but you certainly hope they do and giving a guy chances in NFLE is just more shots at flipping a switch.

 

[Hostile]

Drew Henson is a 3rd string QB. He is not a hot shot prospect or can't miss stud anymore. Now he is a 3rd string QB. No matter anyone on the board's opinion of him at the end of the day he isn't even getting to run the Dallas Cowboys offense in practice, he runs scout team.

IF Parcells signs an extension in the off-season my guess is Henson goes to NFLE and if he is not stellar there he gets cut before camp. We'd bring in someone like Dustin Long to be the new 3rd QB for the rookie minimum and keep Romo in place as the experienced backup. However IF Henson is stellar there he probably comes to camp with an even shot at winning the backup job and catapulting back into QB of the future consideration. Thats exactly why he should have went to NFLE last year. I would send a QB EVERY YEAR. Some QB would go. You never know when the lights are gonna come on for a guy or if they will but you certainly hope they do and giving a guy chances in NFLE is just more shots at flipping a switch.

I agree with part of this. I would send a QB to NFLE every year, but never 2 years in a row. Between NFLE and the Practice Squad I would be constantly trying to have a QB crop. Sort of like the Minor Leagues for pitchers in baseball. Keep the best 3 guys on the 53 man roster and 1 on the PS at all times.

 

[Alexander]

If your happy with what you have then I don't think you bring in a UDRFA who you had in Mini Camp for a work out with only 3 games left in the regular season.

We are bringing in a player that could not even make a practice squad, plus a backup QB from Canada. But we are doing it because we are "not satisfied"?

That is an unquestionably unintelligent train of thought. Teams typically bring in a myriad of FAs at the end of each season to begin the offseason process. Some go to Europe and so on. 99 percent don't make the team the following year. It is a repetitive process that happens every year. Not a mystery.

 

[lspain1]

For Henson the handwriting is on the wall.....





no wait, my kids have been in the crayons again.

 

[Alexander]

For Henson the handwriting is on the wall.....





no wait, my kids have been in the crayons again.

Really.

I mean, we never, ever bring back players that couldn't cut it from camp to camp.

And CFL players? That is a sure indication that our current players are in deep kimchee.

 

[lspain1]

Really.

I mean, we never, ever bring back players that couldn't cut it from camp to camp.

And CFL players? That is a sure indication that our current players are in deep kimchee.

Alex, I was just trying to make a joke. I really have no idea if Henson is done or not. I suppose if he was all of that and a box of chips we would have seen something but I'm no expert on QB's. They are such an iffy proposition even when chosen in the top 5 in the draft. One of the two admitted best QB's in the league was chosen in the 6th round for crying out loud. To me that means the old saying about it's better to be lucky than good is very relevant to this process. There are more busts at QB than any other position IMO.

The Cowboys are definitely turning over lots of rocks right now to gather talent for next years training camp. Either, I'm hearing more about it this year, or they are being much more agressive about the process this year. My guess is that a SB push next year has energized the whole organization and they are trying to get ahead of the rest of the league in the whole effort. It's a good thing.

I guess I'm reluctant to take that process and bury Henson today. I want the next QB of the Dallas Cowboys to be here now to learn under Bledsoe and be ready in two to three years. I'm sure the organization feels the same way. If they have doubts I want them to gather whoever they can to compete with Romo and Henson for that position. I would like the Cowboys to be far enough ahead in a game that we could see somebody at the QB position other than Bledsoe (not gonna happen this year it seems!).

I would like Henson to be THE guy. This next training camp is going to be the time for Henson. He'll make it, or he won't.