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Dallas;1719709 said:
For HD-DVD and BluRay, you will have to go over HDMI to get HD video. If you use the component, the players will down convert to 576p. It is all because of the silly HDCP.

It's unfortunate this post was so soon in a thread with so many people that don't know a flip about HD...... You could have at least linked to some information so the unknowing could read up on it.

Currently, RBG analog (component) is amazing at pushing through a full signal. I have a 1080i HDTV and an HD DVR and an HD DVD player (attached to my 360) both the HD DVR and HD DVD player are connected to my receiver and then to my tv via component cables. There is no way that it's only 576p. The picture is so great on HD TV and HD DVD's - I can gaurantee it's 1080i that I am seeing.

The HDCP is not currently downgrading signals sent over an analog medium - it's more for future players and future TV's than anything else, along with the ICT flagging that is currently NOT happening - that is supposed to limit a signal and downgrade it to 960x540 when the source media is copyrighted and the player does not have an HDCP connection.

Basically, if you buy an HD DVD player, and an HDTV today, you can use component and NOT get downgraded, even on copyrighted HD DVD's.

http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11637#viiia

That is a link to a site that gives dates for the enforcement of the downgrading of analog signals from an HD source. It says at the end of 2010 new playback devices will downgrade analog signals. As for now, you are more than welcome to come over to my house and watch Heroes on my HD DVR or King Kong on my HD DVD player and we can discuss whether it's 576p or not.....

If this is not correct information, please prove me wrong - and I will gladly switch over to HDMI - but I can not tell the difference in PQ (picture quality).

Here is a quote from that site I linked to regarding HDCP - 'As of today, most televisions, monitors and video cards do not support HDCP.' - It then lists government mandating that by July 1, 2007 - all new HD-ready TV's must include HDMI or DVI with HDCP. That was just a couple months ago. So you can't tell me that the government and DRM issues are going to screw the early adopters of a technology out of the full 1080i goodness... It's just not the way things work - instead, they move forward with implementations like this.
 

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Hotdog Neck;1741225 said:
It's unfortunate this post was so soon in a thread with so many people that don't know a flip about HD...... You could have at least linked to some information so the unknowing could read up on it.

Currently, RBG analog (component) is amazing at pushing through a full signal. I have a 1080i HDTV and an HD DVR and an HD DVD player (attached to my 360) both the HD DVR and HD DVD player are connected to my receiver and then to my tv via component cables. There is no way that it's only 576p. The picture is so great on HD TV and HD DVD's - I can gaurantee it's 1080i that I am seeing.

The HDCP is not currently downgrading signals sent over an analog medium - it's more for future players and future TV's than anything else, along with the ICT flagging that is currently NOT happening - that is supposed to limit a signal and downgrade it to 960x540 when the source media is copyrighted and the player does not have an HDCP connection.

Basically, if you buy an HD DVD player, and an HDTV today, you can use component and NOT get downgraded, even on copyrighted HD DVD's.

http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11637#viiia

That is a link to a site that gives dates for the enforcement of the downgrading of analog signals from an HD source. It says at the end of 2010 new playback devices will downgrade analog signals. As for now, you are more than welcome to come over to my house and watch Heroes on my HD DVR or King Kong on my HD DVD player and we can discuss whether it's 576p or not.....

If this is not correct information, please prove me wrong - and I will gladly switch over to HDMI - but I can not tell the difference in PQ (picture quality).

Here is a quote from that site I linked to regarding HDCP - 'As of today, most televisions, monitors and video cards do not support HDCP.' - It then lists government mandating that by July 1, 2007 - all new HD-ready TV's must include HDMI or DVI with HDCP. That was just a couple months ago. So you can't tell me that the government and DRM issues are going to screw the early adopters of a technology out of the full 1080i goodness... It's just not the way things work - instead, they move forward with implementations like this.

You are indeed correct. While you need HDMI/DVI/VGA to view movies at 1080p, component is just fine for 720p and 1080i. The ICT flag is the big thing. All players are required to have this functionality included, but it is up to the individual studios to implement it on each movie. Thus far none of the studios have decided to use it, thus there is no downgrading to 540p. So there's nothing to worry about, component will give you HD movies....for now.
 

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Another update on sales: Apparently Best Buy has put the HD-A3 model on sale for $200. This unit includes 300 and Bourne Supremecy in the box, and you also get your choice of 2 extra HD-DVD movies. It's also still eligible for the 5 free movie mail-in offer. So for $200 you get the player and 9 movies.
 

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Is 1081p alot better picture than 1080i ???..I have an Infocus 4805 projector but just a reg DVD player. Will buy HD when I can decide which one to go with.
 

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QB9fan;1743206 said:
Is 1081p alot better picture than 1080i ???..I have an Infocus 4805 projector but just a reg DVD player. Will buy HD when I can decide which one to go with.

I don't know a lot about projectors, but I imagine you get a pretty good size image if you're using that. If that's the case, then 1080p would definately be an improvement over 1080i. Is the Infocus capable of 1080p?

I looked it up. It only goes to 1080i. I imagine 1080p projectors are still pretty expensive. It's still going to look good at 1080i, definately a LOT better than what regular DVDs give you.
 
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