Help Me Understand The fear?

Flamma

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But why is this a fear? Sitting home on Super Bowl Sunday with dak is the same as sitting at home on Super Bowl Sunday without dak, No?
Owners think they have a better chance to win something when their team goes 12-5 over 5-12. Patrick Mahomes will be sitting on his couch watching the SB this year too. And it's not because he sucks.
 

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If you are arguing that we went 5-1 with Rush then anybody in here w a brain already knows you are clueless and this topic is a total waste of time
Nice deflection. Classic from those who live in fear of change … you took the cheese too, who’s next? You were #2 … Your definition of “arguing” is … interesting?

You got nothing as to the actual question, eh? Figured as much.
 

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Nice deflection. Classic from those who live in fear of change … you took the cheese too, who’s next? You were #2 … Your definition of “arguing” is … interesting?

You got nothing as to the actual question, eh? Figured as much.
Not at all...it approached degree of value to application values. Those vary and require comparisons...try again.
 

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Owners think they have a better chance to win something when their team goes 12-5 over 5-12. Patrick Mahomes will be sitting on his couch watching the SB this year too. And it's not because he sucks.
Rubbing his Super Bowl trophies … bad take.

So what’s the cutoff … 10 years? 12? How many?

Dak hasn’t even had a shot to lose a NFCCG and people think he can win a SB? How’s that logic work?

Past success is the best predictor of future outcomes … so which games this year, against playoff teams, illustrate dak can win 4 consecutive road games against playoff teams? It’s just not logical and there is absolutely zero proof he’s capable… Mahomes has proven it several times and WON.
 

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Nice deflection. Classic from those who live in fear of change … you took the cheese too, who’s next? You were #2 … Your definition of “arguing” is … interesting?

You got nothing as to the actual question, eh? Figured as much.
You used rushs record as an argument. That’s a fact. Move along now
 

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Rubbing his Super Bowl trophies … bad take.

So what’s the cutoff … 10 years? 12? How many?

Dak hasn’t even had a shot to lose a NFCCG and people think he can win a SB? How’s that logic work?

Past success is the best predictor of future outcomes … so which games this year, against playoff teams, illustrate dak can win 4 consecutive road games against playoff teams? It’s just not logical and there is absolutely zero proof he’s capable… Mahomes has proven it several times and WON.
Quarterbacks don't win super bowls. Ever! Put Mahomes on Carolina, you think they win the SB this year? They don't even sniff the playoffs.

Is Garoppolo better than Aaron Rodgers? He got to the SB right through the Packers. The game wasn't even competitive. Why do you think that is?
 

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Before the draft I said the Cowboys should get a QB and let him learn for a year behind Dak then let Dak walk. That got people fired up. So I asked this simple question, do you think Dak can win you a super bowl? If not, then what is keeping you from moving on.

The most popular answer was 'how do you know his replacement will win a super bowl'. That answer made no sense to me. You don't know that he will, but you also don't know that he won't.

If you don't think you can win a super bowl with the QB you have, why keep him and why pay him $50M+++ each year only to constrain your entire roster because of that deal? Grab a rookie and let's try again.

We all saw the revolving door of QB's after Aikman left. Suddenly you stop trying to get a QB that could win you that super bowl we have all been waiting for?
The issue is something many people overlook. We have a good team with good to great players scattered across it.

To abandon your QB who plays pretty well, has demonstrated he can consistently contend for the division and has finished with the #1 seed once, means you are putting the entire rest of the roster in jeopardy.

Do some teams who are contending pull that trigger by choice? Rarely. Eagles are a pretty singular example. Do some teams make a move by necessity or accident like the niners? Rarely.

The vast majority of teams though, once they build a contending team, don’t go fiddling around with a QB off of the sofa or taken in a later round.

We can’t forget that the teams who are able to draft Burrow or Lawrence or Tua or Stroud or Goff or Mahomes were all bad or lucky with a trade because the players are all top 5 or 10 at the outside.

There are other examples whereas got lucky and didn’t get their QB during a full rebuild and we were one of them.

So unless we are willing to just rebuild, it’s extremely risky to risk a good roster by bringing in a complete unknown without any proven and demonstrated ability to win at the highest level.

Ther being said, I’m not adverse to taking shots at a QB in the middle rounds but my expectations for success with that plan are modest.
 

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But it's so easy for the Cowboys. Just get rid of Dak and draft the next Mahomes or Burrow. Because we know those guys are around every single year and the Cowboys just don't want to win.

Someday when Dak is no longer the QB here and we have the next Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones, Desmond Ritter, Justin Fields, or Sam Howell under center maybe these people will start to understand.......
There is a not insignificant number of fans who are more than willing to completely tear down the entire roster every 3-4 years. Never extend quality rookies to a big money contract unless you have your franchise QB firmly in place and a no brainer winner. It’s Super Bowl or bust on repeat.

And that’s fine for some but we have to remember that there are tons of fans who are not talking about the Cowboys every day at the Zone who are not interested, whatsoever, in being a fan of a team in the perennial losers club. Not talking about the non Super Bowl winner club, I’m talking about being perennial losers always hoping for magic.
 

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My fear is what happened between Aikman and Romo.
It was ugly.
But … we haven’t won anything since Aikman … so how can trying be any worse? Eight years not enough?

Why can’t anyone answer what’s to lose? Why the fear? None of it makes sense … oh look what happened after airman before romo? What? The results have been the same since Aikman .., no Championship games sniffed and zero shot at a Super Bowl … he’ll they can’t even beat playoff teams with any regularity … on repeat for almost 3 decades
 

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You used rushs record as an argument. That’s a fact. Move along now
Keep dancing and deflecting, soldier … you missed class when they taught the definition of the word argument … so no answer to what you’re afraid of other than admitting Dak ain’t it?
 

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Look, I love Dak as human … he’s entertaining as a player and fun to watch, he is full of effort and says the right things always, he even has some really good to great moments playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys … but … he also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here … this year he is 1 win in 4 tries against “good” teams and to be honest beating Philly isn’t exactly impressive bc they could easily be 4-5 losses worse than they sho, i think most agree. .

So my question is … why is everyone so afraid of trying a new QB? We had no choice to try one last year … and he went 5-1 … many just sit back & cry “but who replaces him, imagine if we had a better RB?” …. Like did y’all forget you ran Zeke out in favor of TP so yah we’ve not only imagined, but lived through trying a new Rb and YET ..lt’s the same results .., why so afraid to try a new QB?

What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
Have you seen the dumpster fire QBs in this league? An ancient Joe Flacco came off the couch and out performed half of the QBs in the league. It’s hard to find someone capable of winning long term.
 

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Help me understand the fear of understanding Dak is, indeed, a top 5 QB..
 

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DAk is fine now, but Jerry has got to get us the players we need all throughout the season if we want to win a SB.

and they need to stop them from getting stupid penalties.
 

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Help me understand the fear of understanding Dak is, indeed, a top 5 QB..
The fear is he can’t beat playoff teams or win a Super Bowl … his record against playoff teams bears that out, even more so his most recent body of work the last 2 games … when in his career, has dak ever beaten 4 playoff teams, on the road, in 4 consecutive weeks? What stats give you confidence he can do that? I’ll wait.

Top 5 qb woooooooooooooooohooooooo meanwhile Brock Purdy gonna get a second shot in as many years … so what’s top 5 getting ya, champ?

You embody the fear … happy with top 5 stats guy, zero trophies.
 

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So Philly is 11-5 and you just blow that win off? He should absolutely get heat for this team’s performance on the road, but there are bigger issues on this team as to why they haven’t been able to get a meaningful win outside of Arlington. It’s a collective failure no doubt and Dak is part of that.
 

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Look, I love Dak as human … he’s entertaining as a player and fun to watch, he is full of effort and says the right things always, he even has some really good to great moments playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys … but … he also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here … this year he is 1 win in 4 tries against “good” teams and to be honest beating Philly isn’t exactly impressive bc they could easily be 4-5 losses worse than they sho, i think most agree. .

So my question is … why is everyone so afraid of trying a new QB? We had no choice to try one last year … and he went 5-1 … many just sit back & cry “but who replaces him, imagine if we had a better RB?” …. Like did y’all forget you ran Zeke out in favor of TP so yah we’ve not only imagined, but lived through trying a new Rb and YET ..lt’s the same results .., why so afraid to try a new QB?

What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
“he (Dak) also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here.”

I guess the first road playoff win since Aikman that Dak won is meaningless to you. Dak’s also about to have more playoff wins than Romo, which is an extremely low bar for our franchise but still it’s the best we can do in three decades with a lunatic owner as our decision maker. I never saw Romo face the hate that Dak faces. Total bs.
 

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So unless we are willing to just rebuild, it’s extremely risky to risk a good roster by bringing in a complete unknown without any proven and demonstrated ability to win at the highest level.

Ther being said, I’m not adverse to taking shots at a QB in the middle rounds but my expectations for success with that plan are modest.
First, you can draft a QB without releasing your current starter. Its called planning ahead.
Second, if you never draft a QB in an early round then you arent likely to ever find a real franchise QB unless you happen to be the one team every couple decades to stumble upon a Brady or Purdy with a loaded team.
 
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