Help Me Understand The fear?

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It's not a fear, it's common sense. You guys who just want to try someone else, never actually give any credible examples of who and how to go about it. If you think Rush is better than Dak we can stop now, because I won't waste my time speaking with a fool.
Exactly. There are posters on here legitimately asking why we can’t just stick Rush in there.

Non starter - not worth discussing football with them because they just have no idea what they are talking about. Comical really.
 
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Before the draft I said the Cowboys should get a QB and let him learn for a year behind Dak then let Dak walk. That got people fired up. So I asked this simple question, do you think Dak can win you a super bowl? If not, then what is keeping you from moving on.

The most popular answer was 'how do you know his replacement will win a super bowl'. That answer made no sense to me. You don't know that he will, but you also don't know that he won't.

If you don't think you can win a super bowl with the QB you have, why keep him and why pay him $50M+++ each year only to constrain your entire roster because of that deal? Grab a rookie and let's try again.

We all saw the revolving door of QB's after Aikman left. Suddenly you stop trying to get a QB that could win you that super bowl we have all been waiting for?
When will fans understand football is the ultimate teams sport. It is not won by QB's all by themselves.

You're telling me Dan Marino was not good enough to win a SB?

Jim Kelly was not good enough to win a SB?

Some times the other team is just a better team.
 

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Look, I love Dak as human … he’s entertaining as a player and fun to watch, he is full of effort and says the right things always, he even has some really good to great moments playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys … but … he also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here … this year he is 1 win in 4 tries against “good” teams and to be honest beating Philly isn’t exactly impressive bc they could easily be 4-5 losses worse than they sho, i think most agree. .

So my question is … why is everyone so afraid of trying a new QB? We had no choice to try one last year … and he went 5-1 … many just sit back & cry “but who replaces him, imagine if we had a better RB?” …. Like did y’all forget you ran Zeke out in favor of TP so yah we’ve not only imagined, but lived through trying a new Rb and YET ..lt’s the same results .., why so afraid to try a new QB?

What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
I can't explain your fear.
 

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Honestly, this thread is comical.

The *only* people who have a leg to stand on, other than the “let’s see how it plays out” crowd, are those who are willing to turn over the entire roster every 3-4 years until we hit on an “elite”, “Super Bowl Guaranteed” QB.

Anyone not willing to pay the price (and it’s Jets, Panthers level of commitment) or who think there’s some other shortcut other than God outright reaching down and blessing us with a miracle QB, is honestly, not a serious person and their opinions should be disregarded as “fantasy”

Until our fan base some how moves to a burn it down every three years mentality, then I guess you have to put me on Team Dak.

I like being competitive every year

I don’t want to be a perennial cellar dweller praying for a miracle.

For those of you who don’t care, and would be fine with the playoffs every five or six years as you wait for the miracle, then I can’t be mad, but I think you’re wrong.
 

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Look, I love Dak as human … he’s entertaining as a player and fun to watch, he is full of effort and says the right things always, he even has some really good to great moments playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys … but … he also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here … this year he is 1 win in 4 tries against “good” teams and to be honest beating Philly isn’t exactly impressive bc they could easily be 4-5 losses worse than they sho, i think most agree. .

So my question is … why is everyone so afraid of trying a new QB? We had no choice to try one last year … and he went 5-1 … many just sit back & cry “but who replaces him, imagine if we had a better RB?” …. Like did y’all forget you ran Zeke out in favor of TP so yah we’ve not only imagined, but lived through trying a new Rb and YET ..lt’s the same results .., why so afraid to try a new QB?

What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
Nor has the defense stopped a good team!
Nor has the O Line held up against a good team!
I do not recall seeing many open WRs in those same game?
HC has a tendency to get away from the run game!

Not just the QB fella!
 

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But it's so easy for the Cowboys. Just get rid of Dak and draft the next Mahomes or Burrow. Because we know those guys are around every single year and the Cowboys just don't want to win.

Someday when Dak is no longer the QB here and we have the next Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones, Desmond Ritter, Justin Fields, or Sam Howell under center maybe these people will start to understand.......
already have the next QB.....
 

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This right here is exactly the conversation… Why waste 8 years hoping one guy is it? When it’s so hard to find one that is … if you wait even 2 years to TRY, it compounds the problem 5 fold … meanwhile Brock friggin Purdy is in the conversation for MVP … so much for trying, right? Imagine the niners had stuck with Jimmy G, hoping n praying?

Let’s just stick with Dak bc who knows who could be worse … so 100% chance of not winning versus a roll if the dice to see who might be
Also, Dak is too expensive now.

We already paid him mega millions.

He's not even All Pro or Pro Bowl.
 

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What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
The cowboys are 71-41 with Dak.

Not bad, but not in the lead percentage wise vs some others.

The bigger question is where would Dak be with better coaching and players? Team needs to know who there QB is. I don't see this the time to be playing around with the starting QB.
 

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First off Rush was just 4-1, but that's not the point. The defense won those games he started last year. The Cowboys did not allow more than 17 points in ANY of those games. Meanwhile the Cowboys' offense with Rush scored nine touchdowns in five games. I'll do the math, that's 1.8 touchdowns per game.

That is NOT winning you games in the NFL because the Cowboys defense proved even last year they could NOT sustain that level of defensive play. Rush is a severely limited NFL player and that is why he only got backup offers from the Bengals and Cowboys this offseason. He chose to stay home.

If you think the Cowboys would be the same or better than Rush this season I don't know what to tell you. I really don't......
You so casually "forget"...a QB can help the defense. Coop maybe didn't do anything extra special to win those games. But rarely hurt the defense either. Give him some credit for that.
 

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Dak is a pedestrian quarterback...my top 15 but certainly not top 5. Like Romo, he will never will a Super Bowl. He cannot carry or will this team to victory like a Staubach, Montana or Brady. This team is not going anywhere for now and the foreseeable future. Don't extend Dak and rebuild...we have been rebuilding for the past 35 years. Again, we will not win the big games with Jerry running things, McCarthy coaching and Dak at QB...just my thoughts.
 

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10-5, in the playoffs for the 3rd straight season. Which has not happened since the 90's.
And we have fans with nothing better to do but whine about the QB that helped get us to this point.

This entire thread was meant to troll about Dak. Just like 80% of the threads.

To answer the OP's question...there is no fear....becasue there is no other options when you are in the playoffs.
This thread should be approached after the season. But after reading through all the posts instead of responding right away. I have my opinion about it and as I posted, it was meant for one thing only.
 

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Dak is a pedestrian quarterback...my top 15 but certainly not top 5. Like Romo, he will never will a Super Bowl. He cannot carry or will this team to victory like a Staubach, Montana or Brady. This team is not going anywhere for now and the foreseeable future. Don't extend Dak and rebuild...we have been rebuilding for the past 35 years. Again, we will not win the big games with Jerry running things, McCarthy coaching and Dak at QB...just my thoughts.
Well...if that's the case...that Prescott is "pedestrian"...then Purdy, Allen and Stafford are as well. Prescott is just 2 tenths of a point behind Purdy, 1 tenth of a point behind Allen in QBR. Is Mahomes "pedestrian"? In spite of all his heroics he simply can't overcome his current crop of receivers and now he's putting the ball recklessly in harms way. He has 7 more INTS...is currently 8 points behind Prescott in QBR...and only has 46 more yards passing. Prescott tops him in almost every other metric this year.

What teams have a HoF caliber pocket passer like Montana or Brady? The Jets with Rodgers? Herbert, Lawrence, Stafford, Allen, Purdy? Mahomes is really the only guy that you could legitimately claim to be a first ballot HoFer...and even guys like him are limited in what they can do when talent around them gets thin...as we are seeing this year.

Jerry and his son Stephen aren't going anywhere. That's a moot point. In the end, you are stuck with McCarthy, who despite all else, has Prescott playing the best he has ever played. Not being able to run and stop the run consistently will be the undoing of Dallas this year. It's been on the wall since the beginning. Below average linebacker play and a weak stop gap solution at LT will further drag down the team.
 

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Look, I love Dak as human … he’s entertaining as a player and fun to watch, he is full of effort and says the right things always, he even has some really good to great moments playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys … but … he also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here … this year he is 1 win in 4 tries against “good” teams and to be honest beating Philly isn’t exactly impressive bc they could easily be 4-5 losses worse than they sho, i think most agree. .

So my question is … why is everyone so afraid of trying a new QB? We had no choice to try one last year … and he went 5-1 … many just sit back & cry “but who replaces him, imagine if we had a better RB?” …. Like did y’all forget you ran Zeke out in favor of TP so yah we’ve not only imagined, but lived through trying a new Rb and YET ..lt’s the same results .., why so afraid to try a new QB?

What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
Look at the QB play around the league and it should answer the question for you.
 

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It’s been damn near 30 years since we’ve won anything. We ain’t going to win anything for several more season for several reasons. Doesn’t matter who you insert at qb. Let it go!
 

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A new QB would be great. It's a new era in the NFL, lots of different QBs are getting wins this season. The Browns played 4 different starting QBs this year and have the same record as the Cowboys...and they've at least beaten more good teams.

People are so scared of the Quincy Carter years that they don't realize that this team overall has much more talent than 2000-2002 so it's not like they would be winning just 5 games every year with a new QB. If a limited QB like Cooper Rush could win games with this core than just imagine what a new QB with more talent/mobility could do.

You don't have to hold onto a non-HOF QB like Romo or Dak for 10 years
 

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Jerry hasn’t invested in the QB position since Jimmy left. It’s only the most important position on the field. That tells you all you need to know about our GM.
 

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already have the next QB.....
Who? The Phenom that barely played in HS? The one that was not highly recruited? The one that went to camps as a QB, then left the camp listed as an athlete. The one that only started for 1 year in college and had sub-par results!

That one that was drafted way too early and could not beat out Mr Irrelevant or Sam Donald?

The one who would be the starter if he did not get hurt due to a major injury, even though Mr. irrelevant had a much more serious injury.

The one who has really not played in the last 4 years and only played 1 year of QB in his life?

Time to wake up from fantasy land!!!
 

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Look, I love Dak as human … he’s entertaining as a player and fun to watch, he is full of effort and says the right things always, he even has some really good to great moments playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys … but … he also hasn’t won anything meaningful in his 8 years here … this year he is 1 win in 4 tries against “good” teams and to be honest beating Philly isn’t exactly impressive bc they could easily be 4-5 losses worse than they sho, i think most agree. .

So my question is … why is everyone so afraid of trying a new QB? We had no choice to try one last year … and he went 5-1 … many just sit back & cry “but who replaces him, imagine if we had a better RB?” …. Like did y’all forget you ran Zeke out in favor of TP so yah we’ve not only imagined, but lived through trying a new Rb and YET ..lt’s the same results .., why so afraid to try a new QB?

What’s the big fear? Actually maybe winning?
ego-investment in failed wish-thinking. Hard to part ways with it.
 
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