Help on the way for defense

[DallasDW00ds0n]

AZs defense is as tough as anybodys and the giants seem to be rolling.. No such thing as easy stretches

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Why hasn't anyone said 9-1?

Don't see us beating Seattle. And I don't want to go all out to beat Seattle. Fans can get upset. Fans can believe it does not happen....BUT....teams with a legitimate shot at the playoffs have to always keep a long range view of the season. You try to win every game. And on any given Sunday anything can happen. But we are a M*A*S*H unit on defense. And if we have guys that are at risk for re-injuring themselves...I just assume sit them against Seattle. We can try to win with the healthiest guys we have. Which is also why I am NOT in favor of trying to push Murray to break a NFL record for yards in a season. If he achieves that goal within the framework of the team doing what's in the best interest of the Cowboys making the playoffs....great. Otherwise, we need to do whatever is necessary to get him to December as fresh as possible.

We got 2 division games following the trip out to Seattle...those are the biggest games over the next 3 weeks.

 

[Bullflop]

Hard to say if the addition of Brent and Lawrence will be likely to impact our effectiveness on defense enough to really matter. Both will be joining in the fray late enough that it may be difficult for them to condition themselves sufficiently to make a noticeable difference. Hopefully, they'll help but only time will reveal how much, if they do.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

You see us beating Seattle, At their house. Then see us losing to NY?

No, we are most likely getting our *** kicked by Seattle.

So I guess that's 2 loses in a row.

Hilarious. You're prepared to question his prediction of an upset against Seattle but you take for granted his prediction of being upset by NY.

No point in trying to stay balanced when one's principal objective is to be provocative, I suppose.

 

[jazzcat22]

This. We may have a time period for them to get back into football shape and integrate into the defense. Just because they are back does not mean they have any real impact for some time.

Agree. If Lawrence is back to play in week 9, how much playing time does he actually get. and with only 2 weeks until the bye, will they even activate him until after the bye week. Depends on how the team is playing, if they actually have a pass rush by then. But I think he gets very limited play until after the bye.
Ease him in.
For Brent, i'm hoping Okoye gets a chance first, then with Crawford at DT and doing well. That they don't need to bring in Brent. Then you have a guy coming in that needs his reps to get in football shape, but from the mental side more than the physical. I still think it's best he sits out the entire year.
Don't disrupt things if they are working, especially out of loyalty.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Don't see us beating Seattle. And I don't want to go all out to beat Seattle. Fans can get upset. Fans can believe it does not happen....BUT....teams with a legitimate shot at the playoffs have to always keep a long range view of the season. You try to win every game. And on any given Sunday anything can happen. But we are a M*A*S*H unit on defense. And if we have guys that are at risk for re-injuring themselves...I just assume sit them against Seattle. We can try to win with the healthiest guys we have. Which is also why I am NOT in favor of trying to push Murray to break a NFL record for yards in a season. If he achieves that goal within the framework of the team doing what's in the best interest of the Cowboys making the playoffs....great. Otherwise, we need to do whatever is necessary to get him to December as fresh as possible.

We got 2 division games following the trip out to Seattle...those are the biggest games over the next 3 weeks.

"You play to win the game" ...... I am pretty sure they think that way EVERY week.

Anyways... I was just playing.

 

[Frozen700]

Hilarious. You're prepared to question his prediction of an upset against Seattle but you take for granted his prediction of being upset by NY.

No point in trying to stay balanced when one's principal objective is to be provocative, I suppose.

If we beat Seattle, on their turf. Then we will kick NY's ***.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

If we beat Seattle, on their turf. Then we will kick NY's ***.

Ok. In other words, the two outcomes are not independant of one another. That's actually the best response possible.

 

[Doc50]

I like our chances going into December this year, compared with the last 3 yrs.

The bye and some fresh bodies in the DL rotation will help. Okoye may be a big surprise as well.

2-2 in December should equal playoffs.

We talkin playoffs?

 

[xwalker]

Agree. If Lawrence is back to play in week 9, how much playing time does he actually get. and with only 2 weeks until the bye, will they even activate him until after the bye week. Depends on how the team is playing, if they actually have a pass rush by then. But I think he gets very limited play until after the bye.
Ease him in.
For Brent, i'm hoping Okoye gets a chance first, then with Crawford at DT and doing well. That they don't need to bring in Brent. Then you have a guy coming in that needs his reps to get in football shape, but from the mental side more than the physical. I still think it's best he sits out the entire year.
Don't disrupt things if they are working, especially out of loyalty.

I'm not sure I like the idea of either Brent or Okoye being activated, unless there are some injuries at DT. There is value in having some cohesion with the players that are currently playing together. I don't know if Brent or Okoye are enough of a talent upgrade to offset their lack of playing time with the other DLinemen and in this scheme. Brent has only played in a 3-4 in the NFL. This defense is all new to him.

I do like the idea of Brent coming to training camp next year and winning a job. There's little doubt that he more talented than Hayden, but just jumping into a defense that is new to him in the middle of the season after a long layoff seems like a low probability of success.

 

[conner01]

Wondering how effective we think Lawrence and Brent are going to be. A rookie starting in week 9 and brent coming off a year in jail sitting on his but. I am not expecting Demarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer type production. They will spell the starters but I dont expect an impact of measurable magnitude.

i don't expect ware type production, but then again few put up that kind of production. for lawrence this is more about learning, these reps he gets at the end of the year will really benefit him next year.but i do expect he will have some impact this year. we have no true edge rusher and if nothing else his speed could help the inside guys. brent , who knows, thats a long time to be away