Here is a list of the last 20 players taken at number 12 overall

For those advocating trading down, keep in mind that with each round the odds of picking a future all pro player diminish significantly with each round. In fact, most future all-pros are drafted in the top half of the first round. Moving down to 22 leaves players like Mazi and Guyton on the board. The odds are much greater the player will not be a first round talent.

The Cowboys don't need JAGs. They need impact players, particularly on the DL. If there is a Fletcher Cox, or Vita Vea there at 12, they would be wise to take him. One player like that will have more impact than 2 players taken in later rounds.

Having said that, I don't think there are any Fletcher Coxes or Vita Veas in this draft. We'll have to see how the combine and senior bowl games go. And this is another point, sometimes it is luck of the draw. Some years the guys you really need are not in the draft when you are drafting high.

IMO, the Cowboys are such a mess right now that taking BPA is the best strategy. Which player will make the biggest impact for the Cowboys over the next 4 years. If it is an OT, then take him.

The draft boards are going to change a lot between now and April. It should be fun.
 
jterrell said:
I am fine trading down if you are confident the guy you want is still there in 3 picks.
I am not interested in fantasy trade downs of 10+ picks and just YOLOing the board to stockpile picks of riskier players.
2023 and 2024 didn't provide the top of draft talent we need to help buoy this roster.
This team needs to draft a Pro Bowler. 12 gives you that chance.

I am fairly certain the last R1 guy to go will be Jeanty. I'd welcome him but not at 12.
But I also see this RB class as the best of the last decade so might be OK waiting and getting that guy R2 or R3.
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I was looking more at the 10-pick suggestion. There can be a steep drop in talent over 10 picks, especially in a draft where it appears that only 12 players are going to be "rated" as first-rounders. I have no problem with Jeanty, but I also have no problem trading down slightly if there are three guys we like and have rated about the same when we're on the clock. I'm just not in favor of trading down just to accumulate more picks. If we want to do that in later rounds, that's fine since the talent levels out, but in the first and second rounds we need to pick where we are unless there are enough same-level options to justify a slight move.
 
Sandyf said:
Well if our needs remain RB, WR, DE and DT then I suspect we will trade down a bit if they can because right now there are only 10 true 1st round grades in this draft and although the kid from Boise St has a 1st round grade and could fall to 12th, would Jerry really draft a RB in the 1st round.
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I hope he relearned the value of having a top back from watching players he failed to go after have great success for their new teams. This idea that RB is not a premium position kind of got blown out of the water this year.

That being said, I have no problem with waiting until the second to go after a running back because of the other needs we have. It may be more valuable there to get another top receiver to match with Lamb or finally take a stab at a dominant 3-tech or even add a pass-rushing complement to Parsons. It would be great if we'd take care of one of those in free agency since we won't be able to take care of all of them in the draft, but we know better than to expect the Joneses to do that. (I'll also be surprised if we spend the top pick on an end since we just drafted Kneeland in the second round last year.)
 
gimmesix said:
I was looking more at the 10-pick suggestion. There can be a steep drop in talent over 10 picks, especially in a draft where it appears that only 12 players are going to be "rated" as first-rounders. I have no problem with Jeanty, but I also have no problem trading down slightly if there are three guys we like and have rated about the same when we're on the clock. I'm just not in favor of trading down just to accumulate more picks. If we want to do that in later rounds, that's fine since the talent levels out, but in the first and second rounds we need to pick where we are unless there are enough same-level options to justify a slight move.
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100% agree with you. Ia m not falling further than where I have "pick certainty".
I know the next pick is a guy I don't value then have 3 guys on the board I like about the same I'd fall 3 picks.
 
I don't know, we don't seem to be doing too well with former Mich players (re: Mason Graham)
 
Creeper said:
For those advocating trading down, keep in mind that with each round the odds of picking a future all pro player diminish significantly with each round.
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I'm all about trading down. But the condition must be there are still a pool of guys the Cowboys really like and not trading down so far to risk not getting one.
 
with so few really top players in this draft, depending on who is there at #12 trading down could be the sensible thing to do.
 
blueblood70 said:
Or Vita vea, come on dude that's who you picked on that list there's a whole bunch of greats that's the whole point of this list.. I say do not reach you literally should take the best player available but if it's a tie you gotta go need first right what we be the biggest need at #12 for the dallas cowboys? Literally people are gonna say if it's an offensive lineman then you take him and that's the Safeway out but I think it would be a mistake this draft to do that but I don't think they can go wrong if you take the very best and clear best player that's sitting there at any position you probably should just do it don't worry about where they fit you make room for them... There's that many holes on this team and it's hard to go wrong outside to say don't take a quarterback pretty much everything else is wide open....

here's the counterpoint there's a couple running backs on there did you all really think Jeanty is special, look the kid looks great ,but you really you would take him no matter what and who else is on the board? Is this a no brainer don't think about it pick if he's there no matter what you take him? I don't believe that to be the case but if they picked him I wouldn't be upset but I worry about his miles how much he's used in college and the competition he faced that he won't be as dynamic yes he will be good but how great will he be and we need so many other positions.

this is what people are talking about the Cowboys are gonna be dumb and there are other people saying SF could take him ahead of us and we should jump them to get him??hmm

anyway, but do you really want a running back in that spot when there is a lot of really good ones in the second and third round that can be had easily, I don't think I want to take Jeanty, even if he's there..

Unless he's by far the best player available, I think we need to get other positions like I'd rather have a pass rusher or a linebacker or a wide receiver or yeah interior D line is there a guy at #12 like Fletcher Cox or Vita Vega coming from Michigan how much blowback are we going to get from some of the casuals about that?
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Look at what a stud rb does for teams. Look no further than Detroit and Philly. This is the problem too many discount the value of a stud RB. We never won a Superbowl without one.
 
gimmesix said:
I hope he relearned the value of having a top back from watching players he failed to go after have great success for their new teams. This idea that RB is not a premium position kind of got blown out of the water this year.

That being said, I have no problem with waiting until the second to go after a running back because of the other needs we have. It may be more valuable there to get another top receiver to match with Lamb or finally take a stab at a dominant 3-tech or even add a pass-rushing complement to Parsons. It would be great if we'd take care of one of those in free agency since we won't be able to take care of all of them in the draft, but we know better than to expect the Joneses to do that. (I'll also be surprised if we spend the top pick on an end since we just drafted Kneeland in the second round last year.)
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The thing with waiting, got us when Parcells past on Stephen Jackson for Julius Jones. I don't want to take a chance passing on a stud RB if he is right in front of me.
 
First glance appears to be drafting defense to be the best shot at living up to the hype.
 
phildadon86 said:
Maybe they can actually use FA to fix the GLARING holes and use the draft to compliment that.

You know. Like 99 percent of the NFL does.
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Once Martin went down, the only hole we had on the offensive line is the one our 1st round pick was supposed to fill. :facepalm:
 
rambo2 said:
We certainly do. Around 13 players will have a 1st round grade.
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Not to mention that it's likely a quarterback or two will be picked in the first 10 picks despite there maybe not being a first round grade QB in the draft.

We're going to get a good player at 11 overall.
 
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