Here is The Big Issue

[Venger]

If it isn't it's one of the worst.

Yeah, "no we're not, we're 3rd worst" isn't much of an argument...

 

[windward]

Are we really going to rehash last offseason? Are we really going to do that?

 

[DFWJC]

Here's the difference. Free agency has changed. You know it's a different ball game now. This isn't about a couple of big time FA's the board. This is about, almost nobody is untouchable. If you want to make your team better at any position. Do it!! Upgrades were available, . We lost more starters and major contributors than any team out there.

If McClain somehow comes back and Sean Lee is coming back, then we lost one starter (Murray) so far. 2 max
There teams that have lost way more than that..and almost every team has lost at least that much

 

[texbumthelife]

Who exactly would YOU have signed for the price that they were signed at given our cap and roster needs?

I have a couple I would have least kicked the tires on, but the vast majority would have been out of the question.

I'd have taken Sheard and Morgan. I probably would have brought in Michael Johnson and a few others.

I guess I don't understand why you have to wait a certain amount of time, to start going after the second and third tier guys, unless you truly believe none can help you. Know what I mean? Not so much a complaint as I genuinely don't get it. You can come out and say, we won't be going after any big names, you still don't have to wait a week though.

 

[windward]

We upgraded at Fullback. Lost our backup Right tackle. Should we have signed a free agent backup tackle? We lost Melton who was underwhelming the majority of last year. Carter and Durant have been swapped out for Brinkley and Rivers. But we get Sean Lee back and Maybe McClain. That's a wash

We should add a FA De soon maybe two and they will come at a value rate comparable to what they could potentially contribute.

We will address RB in the draft. Hope is that RBBC will maintain productivity.

 

[KingintheNorth]

My guess is that Will McClay is not an idiot.

That's your hope and maybe your guess as well.


Who exactly would YOU have signed for the price that they were signed at given our cap and roster needs?[/quote]

I know I wouldn't be signing random scrubs like Collins, Agnew, Brinkley, and McFadden that take up cap room, however small, that will be available weeks from now.Even if they weren't, players of equal (non)talent will be.

Your rationale now seems to be since people are criticizing the Front Office need to give you specific names and numbers to justify their criticism. I'll simplify it for you some.

Have other NFC teams improved their 2015 chances? Have the Dallas Cowboys improved their 2015 chances?

 

[btcutter]

Here's the difference. Free agency has changed. You know it's a different ball game now. This isn't about a couple of big time FA's the board. This is about, almost nobody is untouchable. If you want to make your team better at any position. Do it!! Upgrades were available, . We lost more starters and major contributors than any team out there.

Upgrade at what cost? We fried JJ and FO for putting us in CAP hell and now they are managing it responsibly you are going to fry them too?

Who exactly have to lost that's so vital to this team's success beside Murray? ........Parnell? Durant? Harris? Did you see the obscene money being thrown at our BACKUPS?

Always ask....if these FAs are so good why do their own teams let them go?

Most people had a pretty good idea and FO has dropped enough hints along the way that they were not going to overpaid for RB when they have build a wall upfront with 3 first rounder. Yes, Murray was valuable but not irreplaceable. If he was so good why were there only THREE teams interested (Jax, Oak and.....Phili after he called and Kelly was desperate).

Take a deep breath. It's a long off season. Panic after training camp if you must.

 

[DFWJC]

I'd have taken Sheard and Morgan. I probably would have brought in Michael Johnson and a few others.

I guess I don't understand why you have to wait a certain amount of time, to start going after the second and third tier guys, unless you truly believe none can help you. Know what I mean? Not so much a complaint as I genuinely don't get it. You can come out and say, we won't be going after any big names, you still don't have to wait a week though.

Sheard would have made sense to me. I'm not sure if we liked him or not and it seemed he gave the pats the champ discount, but maybe not.

Morgan and Johnson I could take or leave depending on the price. My guess is that we plan to draft at least one DE, maybe more.
if you keep 4-5: Depending which of our existing guys coming back you have

Draft Pick (if top 3-4 rounds they won't cut him)
D Lawrence
2-3 of Selvie, Mincey, Spencer, Gardner, Boatright, j Crawford, etc....

 

[Doomsday101]

That's your hope and maybe your guess as well.


Who exactly would YOU have signed for the price that they were signed at given our cap and roster needs?

I know I wouldn't be signing random scrubs like Collins, Agnew, Brinkley, and McFadden that take up cap room, however small, that will be available weeks from now.Even if they weren't, players of equal (non)talent will be.

Your rationale now seems to be since people are criticizing the Front Office need to give you specific names and numbers to justify their criticism. I'll simplify it for you some.

Have other NFC teams improved their 2015 chances? Have the Dallas Cowboys improved their 2015 chances?[/quote]

If your asking today, no have not done much but since Training camp does not start until Late July and things will change. Dallas said going in they were not looking to sign big names in FA. The will look to mid level FA and the draft. Sure Philly is spending they have done it before only to get crap results, same with Washington and the usual cast like Tampa Bay. Spending big in FA does not ensure anything. Dallas will find pieces that fit into what they are trying to build and they will use the draft

 

[DFWJC]

That's your hope and maybe your guess as well.


Who exactly would YOU have signed for the price that they were signed at given our cap and roster needs?

I know I wouldn't be signing random scrubs like Collins, Agnew, Brinkley, and McFadden that take up cap room, however small, that will be available weeks from now.Even if they weren't, players of equal (non)talent will be.

Your rationale now seems to be since people are criticizing the Front Office need to give you specific names and numbers to justify their criticism. I'll simplify it for you some.

Have other NFC teams improved their 2015 chances? Have the Dallas Cowboys improved their 2015 chances?[/quote]

3 days in

ask me in 2 months

 

[Doomsday101]

I know I wouldn't be signing random scrubs like Collins, Agnew, Brinkley, and McFadden that take up cap room, however small, that will be available weeks from now.Even if they weren't, players of equal (non)talent will be.

Your rationale now seems to be since people are criticizing the Front Office need to give you specific names and numbers to justify their criticism. I'll simplify it for you some.

Have other NFC teams improved their 2015 chances? Have the Dallas Cowboys improved their 2015 chances?

3 days in

ask me in 2 months[/quote]

You did not hear the season kicks off next week. lol There are going to be more players on the market as we continue in FA and as we hit the draft. Teams will be forced to trade and release players during this period.

 

[texbumthelife]

Sheard would have made sense to me. I'm not sure if we liked him or not and it seemed he gave the pats the champ discount, but maybe not.

Morgan and Johnson I could take or leave depending on the price. My guess is that we plan to draft at least one DE, maybe more.
if you keep 4-5: Depending which of our existing guys coming back you have
Draft Pick (if top 3-4 rounds they won't cut him)
D Lawrence
2-3 of Selvie, Mincey, Spencer, Gardner, Boatright, j Crawford, etc....

I have no interest in keeping Selvie or Boatright. We know what Selvie brings, not much. I also don't think Spencer can be counted on for a ton of snaps. I think he has some play left in him and I wouldn't want to burn it all up and see him hurt again.

 

[masomenos]

For the most part, the other 11 playoff teams from last year aren't exactly making huge additions in FA either. Maybe there's a reason.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have no interest in keeping Selvie or Boatright. We know what Selvie brings, not much. I also don't think Spencer can be counted on for a ton of snaps. I think he has some play left in him and I wouldn't want to burn it all up and see him hurt again.

some of them may stay your not going to get rid of a player that can be used in rotation. I don't want Selvie starting or Boatright but I don't expect to find a starter and backup. Look to upgrade the starter and use less expensive players in those limited roles

 

[texbumthelife]

some of them may stay your not going to get rid of a player that can be used in rotation. I don't want Selvie starting or Boatright but I don't expect to find a starter and backup. Look to upgrade the starter and use less expensive players in those limited roles

Absolutely agree.

 

[DFWJC]

I have no interest in keeping Selvie or Boatright. We know what Selvie brings, not much. I also don't think Spencer can be counted on for a ton of snaps. I think he has some play left in him and I wouldn't want to burn it all up and see him hurt again.

I'm kind of with you there.
I'm just not sure who so far I would have used significant cap space on the take their spots.

Plus some out there forget that just because we kind of like player, there are 32 teams and many with much more room than us to throw away cap space.
Maybe a Micheal Johnson could kick someone off that list and be one of the 4-5 DEs we keep. But at what price...and does Marinelli even like the guy?

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Did you just choose to ignore the "if" in order to argue?

Also, I pretty much said EVERYTHING you just said.

I did miss the "if"...... my apologies. I just think that some are losing their minds way too early. I wish I could turn the clock back a year at this time and just view all the comments. I realize this is a different year but we need to see how this plays out.

 

[egn22]

Somewhere on an Eagles Giants or Commanders forum, this thread has been copied and pasted for pure comedy.
They are laughing at us losing our sh1t over Murray.

Calm down guys, we saw something similar when philly snatched Asomugha away from us. Everyone's saying we haven't done anything when the reality is we haven't begun. We still have time to make some things happen.

 

[erod]

1. This assumes that Demarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, Anthony Hitchens, and JJ Wilcox won't get any better at all.

2. It assumes that Bishop/Coleman/Gardner will not provide a contribution from any of the three.

3. It assumes free agency is over.

4. It assumes there are no low-key free agents left like Durant, Moore, TMcClain, RMcClain, or Mincey to sign. Remember, we had low expecations for those guys at first.

5. It assumes all these big-name free agents will change these other teams dramatically. They almost never do.

6. It assumes the draft will produce no one to impact the defense or run the football.

7. It disrespects the REAL hero of this team, the offensive line.

8. It fails to recognize the greatness of Rod Marinelli.

9. It makes it sound like DeMarco Murray was Walter Payton. There is nothing special about Murray. He's a good back who had a great year behind an elite offensive line. There are 20 backs that could have done the same. We didn't think he was special the first three years. He wasn't. Murray left a TON of yards on the field with his inability to break away, and he fumbled away the most important game of the season. His fumble against Green Bay cost Dallas a chance to go to Seattle, and maybe the Super Bowl.

10. It fails to acknowledge the tremendous offensive unit Dallas has, with a great line, superb receiving corp, and elite quarterback. If anything, Murray had the easiest job of any running back in the NFL last year.

 

[Frosty]

I know I wouldn't be signing random scrubs like Collins, Agnew, Brinkley, and McFadden that take up cap room, however small, that will be available weeks from now.Even if they weren't, players of equal (non)talent will be.

Your rationale now seems to be since people are criticizing the Front Office need to give you specific names and numbers to justify their criticism. I'll simplify it for you some.
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The FO, Coaches, Scouts know what they want to do and how they want to do it.... Cowboy fans are some of the most demanding fans out there....demands to restructure everyone and make the big splash in FA every year. Its about time we got a FO that obviously has a plan of attack and it might take a year or two to get the players they need/want and ultimately compete for SuperBowl......IMO Stephen Jones is long over due to takeover operations,,,,this guy will get this team back into a Superbowl.....Do we trust, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett, Rod Marinelli, and others or just WHINE because they didn't sign the player the fans wanted....