Here's the real problem with salaries

[kskboys]

is this where I post this because my favorite player is going to get paid?
"don't worry about a man's money. I'm not concerned about the team. The owner makes millions" "get that money boy"

No one is worried about a "man's money".

However, if too many players get "paid" it negates the super bowl!!!!!!!!

 

[shabazz]

With all the talk about the collapse of the running back market and the insane salaries given to (fill in the blank -- be it player or position), there's an element of player salaries that is not discussed nearly enough:

The NFL salary table is incredibly top heavy.

Dak's salary takes up nearly 18% of the team's salary cap this year. (This is not a Dak thread. This is not a Dak thread. This is not a Dak thread.)

The top 3 salaries on the roster take up more than 35% of the salary cap.

That leaves 65% of the cap -- less, actually, because of dead money -- for the remaining 50 players on the roster.

There are 35 players on this team earning less than $1 million per year. I know, no one here is crying for them. But when you have 35 players on one team earning less, combined, than 1 player on that same team, something is wrong.

Understand: This is not a Cowboys problem. This is an every team in the NFL problem.

What's more: Salaries increase for players after their 4th year in the league. But how long is the average career? Less than 4 years. So, rosters are always going to be top heavy. A few will earn more in one season than most of their teammates will earn in their entire careers.

Saquon says he doesn't want to be an "a-hole" to his teammates. But, guess what? Every star players is already telling his lower tier teammates that their pockets don't matter. Every. Darn. Day.

Why should we care? Because this is a team sport, but the top heavy contract structure destroys teams. It encourages teams to jettison good players, who have attracted fans to the team -- not because they aren't good anymore, but because they aren't affordable anymore. It encourages players to leave teams for a huge contract elsewhere -- that will only be broken in a year or two. It shortens careers, because good players can't be paid like great players, and cheap players don't have to be good. It starves young players and leaves young men broken at age 25, without the financial resources that start players have to care for themselves.

How can this be fixed?

Make it so that no single player can earn more than 10% of the cap.

Make it so that the top 3 contracts, combined, can't be more than 20% of the cap.

Make it so that no player earns less than 1/2 of 1% of the cap. (Currently, the minimum is 1/10 of 1 percent).

Make player more equitable, and players and teams and fans will all win.

I’m picking up what you’re laying down and perhaps because these new hybrid running backs like Jackson, Fields, Hurts, and even guys like Jones and Allen that get 700+ yards of rushing yards , they‘ve made the RB position an afterthought.

if the Qb position is gonna command 18-20% of the salary they better pass like Mahome and Burrow and run like Lamar and Hurts

 

[shabazz]

is this where I post this because my favorite player is going to get paid?
"don't worry about a man's money. I'm not concerned about the team. The owner makes millions" "get that money boy"

Don’t forget, the “ Owners are greedy Billionaires”, that enslave the millionaire employees

 

[Captain-Crash]

No one is worried about a "man's money".

However, if too many players get "paid" it negates the super bowl!!!!!!!!

Don’t forget, the “ Owners are greedy Billionaires”, that enslave the millionaire employees

 

[acr731]

Don’t forget, the “ Owners are greedy Billionaires”, that enslave the millionaire employees

They can enslave me for a few million any time they want.

 

[shabazz]

They can enslave me for a few million any time they want.

Nude!

 

[Diehardblues]

With all the talk about the collapse of the running back market and the insane salaries given to (fill in the blank -- be it player or position), there's an element of player salaries that is not discussed nearly enough:

The NFL salary table is incredibly top heavy.

Dak's salary takes up nearly 18% of the team's salary cap this year. (This is not a Dak thread. This is not a Dak thread. This is not a Dak thread.)

The top 3 salaries on the roster take up more than 35% of the salary cap.

That leaves 65% of the cap -- less, actually, because of dead money -- for the remaining 50 players on the roster.

There are 35 players on this team earning less than $1 million per year. I know, no one here is crying for them. But when you have 35 players on one team earning less, combined, than 1 player on that same team, something is wrong.

Understand: This is not a Cowboys problem. This is an every team in the NFL problem.

What's more: Salaries increase for players after their 4th year in the league. But how long is the average career? Less than 4 years. So, rosters are always going to be top heavy. A few will earn more in one season than most of their teammates will earn in their entire careers.

Saquon says he doesn't want to be an "a-hole" to his teammates. But, guess what? Every star players is already telling his lower tier teammates that their pockets don't matter. Every. Darn. Day.

Why should we care? Because this is a team sport, but the top heavy contract structure destroys teams. It encourages teams to jettison good players, who have attracted fans to the team -- not because they aren't good anymore, but because they aren't affordable anymore. It encourages players to leave teams for a huge contract elsewhere -- that will only be broken in a year or two. It shortens careers, because good players can't be paid like great players, and cheap players don't have to be good. It starves young players and leaves young men broken at age 25, without the financial resources that start players have to care for themselves.

How can this be fixed?

Make it so that no single player can earn more than 10% of the cap.

Make it so that the top 3 contracts, combined, can't be more than 20% of the cap.

Make it so that no player earns less than 1/2 of 1% of the cap. (Currently, the minimum is 1/10 of 1 percent).

Make player more equitable, and players and teams and fans will all win.

Well done !! It is a huge problem but there’s a reason it’s not going to be addressed.

The NFL is an entertainment sports entity which it’s evolved more into over the decades from just being a football league. And these QB’s and top stars are their leading actors. They attract the fans in to attend and view the games along with selling the merchandise.

The NFL continues to generate record revenue despite these issues which disable franchises from building stronger teams with more depth. As always follow the money trail.

 

[Diehardblues]

They can enslave me for a few million any time they want.

But can they enslave you for less than a million a year? I believe $750,000 is currently league minimum. Practice squad is $12,000 a week.

Most of the leagues players are playing for the leagues minimum which is less than I’d risk my body for a few years of potential fame.

I guess most fans here didn’t do well in their careers and playing for 3 or 4 years ( league average) at minimum league salary would surpass their current lifestyle’s.
No thanks!

 

[Captain-Crash]

i read on here that the salary cap was real, so "pay the men, and don't worry about a man's money" "get that money boy"

 

[doomsday9084]

Random comments:
- The NBA has a player salary cap and its awful. If you have one of the superduperstars, you are pretty much guaranteed to be one of the best teams. Imagine if Mahomes had his salary capped at $22m. The rest of the league would be screwed because they would be paying their worse quarterback the same exact money. Hell, this would significantly reduce the advantage of having QB's on their rookie deal.
- The leagues without a salary cap are also awful if you don't follow a high spending team. As Cowboy fans, no salary cap would be nice but it wouldn't be good for the league on whole.

If you like a competitive, popular league, the current cap rules are just fine. Every team spends the same amount of money over the long term and the ones that win are the ones who spend it most judiciously.

If there was a fix for the players I would suggest, it wouldn't be cap wise. A lot of these guys blow their earnings. IMO, every player in the league should get a modest pension after 3 years service and possibly health care insurance. Let's say $50K per year regardless of income during their playing years. That way, you put a floor on someone's standard of living for the rest of their lives.

 

[kskboys]

But can they enslave you for less than a million a year? I believe $750,000 is currently league minimum. Practice squad is $12,000 a week.

Most of the leagues players are playing for the leagues minimum which is less than I’d risk my body for a few years of potential fame.

I guess most fans here didn’t do well in their careers and playing for 3 or 4 years ( league average) at minimum league salary would surpass their current lifestyle’s.
No thanks!

Absolutely!!.

PS is half the NFL min, which would be $375,000. Yes again.

Most of us don't have money anywhere near like that.

 

[kskboys]

Random comments:
- The NBA has a player salary cap and its awful. If you have one of the superduperstars, you are pretty much guaranteed to be one of the best teams. Imagine if Mahomes had his salary capped at $22m. The rest of the league would be screwed because they would be paying their worse quarterback the same exact money. Hell, this would significantly reduce the advantage of having QB's on their rookie deal.
- The leagues without a salary cap are also awful if you don't follow a high spending team. As Cowboy fans, no salary cap would be nice but it wouldn't be good for the league on whole.

If you like a competitive, popular league, the current cap rules are just fine. Every team spends the same amount of money over the long term and the ones that win are the ones who spend it most judiciously.

If there was a fix for the players I would suggest, it wouldn't be cap wise. A lot of these guys blow their earnings. IMO, every player in the league should get a modest pension after 3 years service and possibly health care insurance. Let's say $50K per year regardless of income during their playing years. That way, you put a floor on someone's standard of living for the rest of their lives.

Pension plan already in place.

Yup. Most don't look past the extreme ramifications of no salary cap. MLB is a mess because of just that.

 

[GMO415]

Bullet,
These billionaires should get rid of the salary cap. Problem solved.

 

[Diehardblues]

Absolutely!!.

PS is half the NFL min, which would be $375,000. Yes again.

Most of us don't have money anywhere near like that.

I might have been interested in playing professional sports like baseball or basketball and more interested in individual sports like golf or tennis all of which I did play in my childhood and some in school but never football cause of life altering lingering injury issues. I had an uncle and a cousin who had to struggle entire life with knee and foot injuries from playing in college.

 

[Creeper]

Again, some perspective. A player who is guaranteed $22 million, like rookie RB Bijan Robinson makes more money than a person who gets paid $200,000 per year for every year of his life beginning at birth and ending with his death. Bijan Robinson should never have to work another day in his life, even if he has a career ending injury during his first game in the NFL.

I am not picking on Bijan, but some RBs have actually gotten paid much more than that. That fact that they are not making $22 million a year instead of $5 million like other position players does not mean they are underpaid.

I have been saying for some time QB salaries are out of whack and at some point the league will have to make an adjustment out of necessity. Maybe they change the rules again. Maybe they changes the way they play the game. Or maybe they change the way they build their rosters moving more towards building a strong roster to support a more mediocre QB. I don't know the answer but the way QB salaries are accelerating something has to give eventually. But I don't think right now the league thinks they have a problem.

And one more point, I always hear that the salary CAP is going to go up so paying players will get easier. No, it won't. It will be possible to pay them more, but it will not get easier because the salaries will increase quickly with the CAP and the problem will still exist only at higher levels of compensation.

 

[Cowboys5217]

The real issue with salaries is that they are none of our business.

They are absolutely fan business. The league needs fans. Fans want their teams to win. Salary caps have a large impact on a teams' chances to win, thus fans will have legit business with salaries especially those that gamble on games.

Don't want salaries to be the fans' business? Fine, then get rid of the salary cap and stop PUBLICLY reporting contracts.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Then the question begs to be asked: Why in the world did you even enter this thread?

Everyone is interested in certain topics. This one does not interest you. Don't click on it. No more complicated than that.

He NEEDS you and everyone else to know just how much he doesn't care.

 

[kskboys]

He NEEDS you and everyone else to know just how much he doesn't care.

I know, right? Very strange.

I just don't get why anyone would enter a thread to proclaim "Let's not talk about this." It's just beyond weird.

 

[kskboys]

They are absolutely fan business. The league needs fans. Fans want their teams to win. Salary caps have a large impact on a teams' chances to win, thus fans will have legit business with salaries especially those that gamble on games.

Don't want salaries to be the fans' business? Fine, then get rid of the salary cap and stop PUBLICLY reporting contracts.

And this is so obvious it shouldn't even have to be said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

I might have been interested in playing professional sports like baseball or basketball and more interested in individual sports like golf or tennis all of which I did play in my childhood and some in school but never football cause of life altering lingering injury issues. I had an uncle and a cousin who had to struggle entire life with knee and foot injuries from playing in college.

Of course. However, the majority of people would take the chance for life changing money. Play 3 yrs in the NFL at min, you'd make $750,000; $870,000; and $940,000. That adds up to 2.56 mill. That is life changing money. Although you'd have to live sparsely, you could retire on that.