Herschel Walker slated to fight MMA in November

[Monster Heel]

did I call the gracies any of that?

you associate their name with MMA, but I don't, I associate them with Brazilian jiu jitsu.

MMA=garbage
BJJ=true disicpline

It's getting kind of hard to disassociate the two. MMA is what's brought on the rise of popularity in the discipline in the states. Beyond grappling tournaments (which are less lucrative than MMA) or being good enough to run a respected gym, the way to earn money with a high level of BJJ skill is MMA.

 

[Four]

nobody has died in the UFC unlike boxing where their's a handful of deaths every year. Fedor is a cyborg

I don't wish it, but it's a matter of time.

The refs don't stop half the fights when they need to, and stop half the fights when they shouldn't have.

The first time I watched a guy hit a knocked out dude two or three times when it was clear to everyone he was out, I wrote the sport off.

That kind of brutality isn't supposed to happen in a "sport"

 

[Rampage]

I don't wish it, but it's a matter of time.

The refs don't stop half the fights when they need to, and stop half the fights when they shouldn't have.

The first time I watched a guy hit a knocked out dude two or three times when it was clear to everyone he was out, I wrote the sport off.

That kind of brutality isn't supposed to happen in a "sport"

eh that's your opinion. Boxing is dying and MMA is getting bigger and bigger

 

[Four]

It's getting kind of hard to disassociate the two. MMA is what's brought on the rise of popularity in the discipline in the states. Beyond grappling tournaments (which are less lucrative than MMA) or being good enough to run a respected gym, the way to earn money with a high level of BJJ skill is MMA.

Honestly, you can make a ton of money teaching it.

The purse on some of the MMA fights are laughable, you can make a very good career out of teaching BJJ now, because of the gracies.

you can get certified to teach and you are set till you retire basically, because the demand is there to learn it.

I just think MMA is counterproductive and opened the door to some very questionable practices.

and dana white is absolute scum.

 

[Four]

eh that's your opinion. Boxing is dying and MMA is getting bigger and bigger

MMA is kinda stagnating at this point, it's not really getting as big as it should have by now given the momentum they had rolling.

The good sports writers ignore it, it's a minor highlight on espn at best.

potential was there, but I really don't see it getting all that much bigger than it is right now.

It's a shame about boxing, I do love the sweet science.

 

[Rampage]

MMA is kinda stagnating at this point, it's not really getting as big as it should have by now given the momentum they had rolling.

The good sports writers ignore it, it's a minor highlight on espn at best.

potential was there, but I really don't see it getting all that much bigger than it is right now.

It's a shame about boxing, I do love the sweet science.

it is a shame. I feel like I missed out on so many great fights and fighters and now all we have is an overrated Manny Pacquio, Floyd Mayweather who is very good but has never fought anybody and a bunch of overrated europeans.

 

[DallasDomination]

He's a freak althlete...Hopefully he does well.

 

[tomson75]

I don't know why, there are no athletes in that sport that compare to the real professional athletes.

Bull****.

 

[Four]

it is a shame. I feel like I missed out on so many great fights and fighters and now all we have is an overrated Manny Pacquio, Floyd Mayweather who is very good but has never fought anybody and a bunch of overrated europeans.

90's were so great, or well really when tyson hit the scene.

I was too young for before that, but man the 60s 70s, even the decades before them had epic fighters and epic fights.

I never saw an Ali fight, but man I am an Ali fan.

I hope boxing gets something going right for it again. The last fight I paid for was De La Hoya Vs Trinidad 1. Man what a joke that decision was, I was turned off to boxing for a long time because of that one.

 

[QT]

MMA is MIXED MARITIAL ARTS which includes jujitsu. There is no seperation of the two.

 

[RESIN8]

I don't know what it is about the sport, but I can't get excited about it. I just can't get excited about a sport where a guy is on his back or the fighters are just clinging to each other half the match.

I do give the guy who is marketing this sport props though. It has grown and taken over the space that has been voided by boxing. What used to drive the sport of boxing was the epic heavywieght fights. When was the last time there was a heavywieght fight with anticipation? Also I went into Champs a couple of days ago to get my kid some baseball cleats and saw a whole section dedicated to clothing having to do with MMA.

 

[DallasDomination]

I don't know what it is about the sport, but I can't get excited about it. I just can't get excited about a sport where a guy is on his back or the fighters are just clinging to each other half the match.

I do give the guy who is marketing this sport props though. It has grown and taken over the space that has been voided by boxing. What used to drive the sport of boxing was the epic heavywieght fights. When was the last time there was a heavywieght fight with anticipation? Also I went into Champs a couple of days ago to get my kid some baseball cleats and saw a whole section dedicated to clothing having to do with MMA.

MMA > Boxing

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't know why, there are no athletes in that sport that compare to the real professional athletes.

Hershel was a world class athlete, that sport will never see anyone of his caliber in their prime. Hershel has a punchers chance, just like every other bum in that sport.

LOL! Wow.

Sorry but Hershel is too old to have any kind of shot against anyone credible. If they feed him an over the hell, never was, he'll have a shot. If he fights anyone with any kind of skill he's going to get destroyed.

if they were that good they wouldn't be fighting MMA

The paydays are tiny, and the risks are too great.

Not to mention the main guy(dana white) leading the sport doesn't even have beyond a high school education and runs it like he is a mob boss.

if they were such great athletes they would be boxing, the money is better, and the perks are much better. They are failed athletes at their chosen sport and resorted to MMA because they have to.

The guys that fight in MMA because they love it are the guys who would be fighting in bars anyways. Guys with chips on their shoulders and someting to prove.

Garbage sport. Anyone can beat anyone on any given night with one good punch.

I won't ever be a fan.

No money huh? Interesting. I just read the other day where Rampage Jackson took home almost 400k for his fight against Silva which last all of like a minute or so. But, yeah, that's just TERRIBLE money for a guy who fought for about a minute, got a KO win, and got almost 400k for it.

And your bar comment is one of the most idiotic and uniformed opinions I've ever seen. You have proven, several times in this one post, that you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

You're just another boxing fan that's pissed off that your dying sport has been easily replaced by something much better.

I bet I keep up with it more than you do.

I was there from day one, they aren't well disciplined they are sloppy techniquewise and get away with it because everyone else is too.

Once in a blue moon a truly gifted person skillset wise comes in(fedor) but in the end they are sloppy fighters, who lack the discipline that martial arts was intended to teach.

I can tell by your opening sentence of them being not well disciplined that you don't keep up with it more than I do and that you don't watch anything other than highlight shows or read reviews. If you've ever seen Lyoto, Anderson Silva, GSP, or a host of others fight then you'd feel extremely stupid for making that sloppy claim.

I didn't say they were boxers, but that if they were that class of athlete they would be boxing because the money is there, it isn't there in MMA.

I keep up with the sport, you don't need to preach to me about the fighters, I watch them, very few are truly talented, the rest are also rans.

and oh by the way, you see that kid that was born with no arms or legs fight in MMA? ya, classy sport man.

he fought in a nothing promotion that no one pays any attention to or gives a crap about. There aren't any promotions that are legit that are letting a kid like that in their ring. So trying to use that as any part of your argument is beyond pathetic.

Again the fact that you don't think any at truly talented means you don't watch anything you just claim to. You're a highlight guy at best.

GSP, Penn, Anderson Silva, Machida, Fedor are just a few of the names of people with talent and are amazing to watch.

*shrugs* Not everyone can be a fan of MMA, and that's fine, but making completely off base statements to claim it's why you're not a fan is one of the most head scratching things I've ever seen anyone do on these forums.

 

[RESIN8]

MMA > Boxing

I'll pass.

 

[CATCH17]

which is why they are sloppy fighters who don't have good technique, which is why I hate the sport.

and that they always hit the guy more than once after he is clearly out, someone is going to get really hurt from that one day.

trash sport.

and also, fedor is primarily one discipline and he wrecks people, so how you wanna explain that one?

and yes he cross trains, but his sambo is his base, he goes back to it all the time.

Man talk about clueless.

 

[MrMom]

I'm pretty sure he was just trolling.

Tool move.

 

[Aikbach]

Herschel? I recollect him being pretty top heavy, I wonder how that will effect his balance as a fighter. As big and muscular as he was, he wasn't that hard to bring down or trip up as a runner.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

the gracies got into MMA because of the chip on their shoulder about BJJ being the superior martial art in the world.

it evolved into a convoluted mess

you guys get so defensive about a sport you never participated in, you read my words and twist them into something I didn't say because you got emotional about what I said.

Sorry, doesn't make me wrong though.

you say they get defensive about a sport they never participated in but you are the on criticizing it and I'm pretty sure you never stepped in the ring or octogon with any of those animals that you say have no discipline and sloppy technique....
...And how about Royce Gracie getting DOMINATED by Matt Hughes...new school UFC has a ton of talent compared to the older days and that fight was a good example...
You may have your opinions on MMA and thats fine. But don't claim you know anything about the sport because everything you have said in this post says otherwise

 

[Ren]

I don't know why, there are no athletes in that sport that compare to the real professional athletes.

Hershel was a world class athlete, that sport will never see anyone of his caliber in their prime. Hershel has a punchers chance, just like every other bum in that sport.

Obviously you missed "real professional athlete" and former NFL WR Johnny Morton's pathetic attempt at MMA

 

[DemonBlood]

ITT: Four the boxing troll gets owned big time.