He's A Rookie At 11-2

khiladi

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You mean the porcelain doll who would last about 3 plays? Late hit, unnecessary roughness, shoulder plow into the back. Gone. See ya. Defense did their job.

Oh ... my fault. You were referring to Mark Sanchez. Sorry for getting carried away.

Funny, because everybody was clamoring for him to save the season last year, despite the team being in total disarray and now that he has the pieces, let's worry about him getting injured again...

So what if he gets injured? Dak gets the job back..

And he's not a porcelain doll.. when your getting sacked 40 times a season and your OC in Garrett can't adjust to a blotz, then it takes a toll..
 

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Why not? We had to wait until the coach learned how to coach.

Well that coach needed to get responsibilities stripped away from him to learn how to coach. It wasn't more learning as to admit the golden boy/adopted son wasn't that golden find guys to actually do the real work with him as a cheerleader..
 

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Oh, I'm relaxed. I think this is some funny stuff. John Q. Public decided that you couldn't put Romo back in because it "would destroy momentum," like there was any factual basis for that line of thinking. And the organization was too weak to refute that erroneous logic and kept their HOF-level QB on the sideline. And everyone said "Hooray, the Cowboys are doing the right thing!" And now the QB controversy they thought they had so adeptly sidestepped is right back at the forefront.

Belichick would have laughed his *** off at the notion of keeping Brady on the sideline when he was healthy for a rook QB. Because Belichick has the mental capacity to look beyond a win-loss record as being the end all, be all.
You are correct in saying Belichick would have laughed that notion off, difference is he has a HOF QB with 4 rings, whereas we have a possible? HOF QB with a bunch of great stats and several one and done's in the playoffs. I'm not saying Dakota is the greatest but last night the way the Giants Defense played Romo is back in the ER with another injury. Looking at that game he had no room all night long to do anything, scramble, run, throwing lanes, nothing; he had a horrible game throwing the ball and was inaccurate all night so no excuse but Romo in that same situation has shown what he would do and that would have been a possible Russell Wilson performance with 5 int's. The Giants defensive back field played a masterful game, sorry you can't knock their play last night and Romo wouldn't have made a difference.
 

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So (as a fan) have to ask yourself. Will you be satisfied with a very good W/L record and a loss in the first round of the playoffs? Or at what point will you be satisfied or happy calling the season a success? Some feel nothing less is acceptable than a SB win, other's just want to sniff the playoffs with a chance to be better next year. I'm not sure either measures your "fanmanship" or does it?
All I know is I have been around a while and 3 variables that usually hold true for a deep playoff run:
1. You need to go into the playoffs on some kind of a positive roll.
2. You need a very good defense to go deep in the playoffs.
3. No matter how good your are in a season, there are no guarantees the following season will be as good.
The defense showed up yesterday and we have time to get back on role. Let's do this!!
 

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How many Super Bowls did Brady win?

I see. So this is really about your total inability to recognize that Romo is a great QB who has been on awful teams for the most part. Got it. Eli won two SBs. But yeah, he's a HOFer and Romo isn't. Never mind what every single measurable stat says about their respective play over the years. It's all "Duuuuh, how many SBs has Romo won? Duuuuh."
 

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*sigh*

1. Wins are a team stat, not individual.

2. This is a team with superbowl aspirations. The "he's a rookie" excuse doesn't fly. Not until the league starts awarding bonus points because players are rookies.

3. Romo has had a long career, we know what type of player he is. It's foolish to assume he would just suddenly suck.

4. People want the best player to play. At least some do. The only hate I have seen is towards Romo.
 

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1. This guy has posted 11 wins. Of all the stats, those are the ones which count the most.

2. The last three games where he has "struggled" came against pretty good defenses, and he won 2.

3. Every week now there is a post/thread, did Team X show the league how to beat the Cowboys.

4. Did you believe he would go all the way through the Super Bowl and not post another loss?

5. The fact Dez father died may just be setting in now. That performance last night showed his head wasn't in the game. That does not detract from the truth, which is this guy is special.

6. How does any of the people so ready to replace Dak know for certain Romo will be greatness again? Well, you don't, so that was rhetorical.

7. During the years when I would point out Romo's shortcomings, I was told I was a hater who wished for Romo to fail. I see a great deal of that this mroning on this board in regard to Dak.

I feel you!
 

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1. This guy has posted 11 wins. Of all the stats, those are the ones which count the most.

2. The last three games where he has "struggled" came against pretty good defenses, and he won 2.

3. Every week now there is a post/thread, did Team X show the league how to beat the Cowboys.

4. Did you believe he would go all the way through the Super Bowl and not post another loss?

5. The fact Dez father died may just be setting in now. That performance last night showed his head wasn't in the game. That does not detract from the truth, which is this guy is special.

6. How does any of the people so ready to replace Dak know for certain Romo will be greatness again? Well, you don't, so that was rhetorical.

7. During the years when I would point out Romo's shortcomings, I was told I was a hater who wished for Romo to fail. I see a great deal of that this mroning on this board in regard to Dak.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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1. This guy has posted 11 wins. Of all the stats, those are the ones which count the most.

2. The last three games where he has "struggled" came against pretty good defenses, and he won 2.

3. Every week now there is a post/thread, did Team X show the league how to beat the Cowboys.

4. Did you believe he would go all the way through the Super Bowl and not post another loss?

5. The fact Dez father died may just be setting in now. That performance last night showed his head wasn't in the game. That does not detract from the truth, which is this guy is special.

6. How does any of the people so ready to replace Dak know for certain Romo will be greatness again? Well, you don't, so that was rhetorical.

7. During the years when I would point out Romo's shortcomings, I was told I was a hater who wished for Romo to fail. I see a great deal of that this mroning on this board in regard to Dak.

This is dumb. Romo is obviously the better QB. Dak well improve over time but he isn't better right now.
 

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Um, this isn't Dak's personal classroom. I don't have time for him to "learn from this." How about we put in the guy who has already learned?
Ummm...correction. This is Dak's personal classroom. Experience is the best teacher...smh.
 

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1. This guy has posted 11 wins. Of all the stats, those are the ones which count the most.

2. The last three games where he has "struggled" came against pretty good defenses, and he won 2.

3. Every week now there is a post/thread, did Team X show the league how to beat the Cowboys.

4. Did you believe he would go all the way through the Super Bowl and not post another loss?

5. The fact Dez father died may just be setting in now. That performance last night showed his head wasn't in the game. That does not detract from the truth, which is this guy is special.

6. How does any of the people so ready to replace Dak know for certain Romo will be greatness again? Well, you don't, so that was rhetorical.

7. During the years when I would point out Romo's shortcomings, I was told I was a hater who wished for Romo to fail. I see a great deal of that this mroning on this board in regard to Dak.

The team has posted an 11-2 season. When people use that argument it sounds like giants fans claiming Eli is special because of his 2 super bowl victories.

Nobody knows if Romo would be better for sure, but every report has said he looks outstanding in practice. There is a reason the coaches didn't let him try to win the job back - because he would, and they didn't want to upset the apple cart.

I seriously doubt anyone wants Dak to fail, but some of us demand that if he's the starter he be the best player at the position. When the best player is standing on the sidelines, you're doing it wrong. Now if you want to argue that we don't know if Romo is better I'll say this - if Romo is only 75 percent of the player he was in 2014, he's considerably better than the Dak from December 11.
 

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These games have to be expected with a rookie, but the coaches aren't rookies, they didn't adjust...

It was very obvious in the first half that the Giants couldn't stop Zeke...to me, that was the biggest mistake, just have him pound the rock all night if we have to...this team needs to run to set up the pass. And it also looked like Dak was forcing pass's to Dez, trying to keep him part of the offence, it should be Dez's job to run the routes get open and be part of the offence, this offence works better when Dak just throws to the open man whoever that his. I think until this team recognises that Dez is not the elite talent we will have games like this. I think the team is fortunate that we only have Dez for 3 more years...after last night performance, no way he should be wearing 88.
 

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I love Romo, but people act like he never had a bad game. This is Daks first full bad game in 12, whatever, it happens. Romo's not winning 11 in a row with his gunslinger style
 

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Funny, because everybody was clamoring for him to save the season last year, despite the team being in total disarray and now that he has the pieces, let's worry about him getting injured again...

I'm not WORRIED about Tony getting injured. I KNOW he's going to get injured. No worries at all.
 

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I seriously doubt anyone wants Dak to fail, but some of us demand that if he's the starter he be the best player at the position. When the best player is standing on the sidelines, you're doing it wrong. Now if you want to argue that we don't know if Romo is better I'll say this - if Romo is only 75 percent of the player he was in 2014, he's considerably better than the Dak from December 11.

Prior to last night Dak hadn't given anyone much reason to believe that a big upgrade was even possible, let alone necessary, at the QB position. He had a 108 QBR heading into last night, which ranked better than all but one of Romo's seasons.

Changing horses midstream on the basis of a single game (and it really only was one game notwithstanding the attempts of many to suggest that he's been struggling for a few weeks now) seems reactionary.

I suppose if he continues to struggle the team needs to consider benching him in favour of Romo. It was, after all, on the basis of his strong performance and the fear of disrupting team chemistry and momentum that he was allowed to keep the job when Romo returned in the first instance. Those justifications will no longer hold if he goes into a tailspin and the team suffers as a result.

But I'd be slow to pull him even if he continues to struggle a bit. Frankly, I don't see this as a championship caliber team. And it's not Dak that holds the team back from reaching that status. It's the defence. If we had a defence that we could be confident would string together a bunch of games like yesterday's I'd be all for pulling out all the stops to take a shot at winning this thing, including by benching Dak in favour of Romo.

But there's a significant potential cost in doing so: you could damage the kid's psyche and consequently impede (or even reverse) his development. That might be a chance you take with your future (and arguably present) franchise QB if the reward is a realistic shot at the Super Bowl. But if that reward isn't realistically available because the defence is likely to hold the team back anyway, I think you have to be very careful about risking your future for a remote possibility of immediate reward.
 

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This is dumb. Romo is obviously the better QB. Dak well improve over time but he isn't better right now.

Romo was the better QB 2 years ago. He's not "obviously" anything at the moment. He hasn't taken a regular season snap in over a year and threw 6 passes in preseason. Only the coaches know where Tony is now.
 

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Prior to last night Dak hadn't given anyone much reason to believe that a big upgrade was even possible, let alone necessary, at the QB position. He had a 108 QBR heading into last night, which ranked better than all but one of Romo's seasons.

Changing horses midstream on the basis of a single game (and it really only was one game notwithstanding the attempts of many to suggest that he's been struggling for a few weeks now) seems reactionary.

I suppose if he continues to struggle the team needs to consider benching him in favour of Romo. It was, after all, on the basis of his strong performance and the fear of disrupting team chemistry and momentum that he was allowed to keep the job when Romo returned in the first instance. Those justifications will no longer hold if he goes into a tailspin and the team suffers as a result.

But I'd be slow to pull him even if he continues to struggle a bit. Frankly, I don't see this as a championship caliber team. And it's not Dak that holds the team back from reaching that status. It's the defence. If we had a defence that we could be confident would string together a bunch of games like yesterday's I'd be all for pulling out all the stops to take a shot at winning this thing, including by benching Dak in favour of Romo.

But there's a significant potential cost in doing so: you could damage the kid's psyche and consequently impede (or even reverse) his development. That might be a chance you take with your future (and arguably present) franchise QB if the reward is a realistic shot at the Super Bowl. But if that reward isn't realistically available because the defence is likely to hold the team back anyway, I think you have to be very careful about risking your future for a remote possibility of immediate reward.

The defense has played better the past few weeks. Admittedly it has been against marginal to bad offenses. And I agree that the team might not have the defense to win it all.

But asking them to hold a team to 7 points or less seems like a guarantee that they'll fail. Fielding a better offense helps the defense, as has been evident all season. And Dak's rating has been phenomenal, but still less than Romo's when he had a comparable running game with imo a lesser runningback.

As for Dak's psyche, if he can't handle being benched for a better player that he only replaced because of injury, than he's too mentally weak to win anything anyway. From everything I've seen that's incredibly unlikely. What about the 'good of the team' talk? If the team comes first everyone, including Dak, should want the best players out there. But they wanted to keep things as they were for fear of upsetting the run. The run has ended, if Dak is not very good next week we could start a new run of losses. You don't get a lot of chances and every year is different, I'd rather not throw away a chance at winning it all this year to try and protect Dak's feelings.
 
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