He's A Rookie At 11-2

[Mr Cowboy]

Didn't Butler drop a TD pass last night? I didn't watch much of the game, but I seem to remember that he had a TD pass go right through his arms in the end zone. That's 7 points, then the punt return by Beasely, even if they don't gain a yard, that's an automatic FG, but there was a holding penalty on the return. Yeah, Dak and the offense had a bad game, but he wasn't the only reason. For the past 11 games, many have discredited Dak, saying that it was all the OL and Zeke. He loses for the first time in 11 games, and its all his fault!

 

[Risen Star]

Not what i said. But if rewriting it causes you to meet a quota of witticisms on this site, as required by your union contract, then carry on.

You said he reminded you of Joe Montana.

I remember, because when the medics arrived and asked me once I was revived what happened to cause me to almost choke to death I had to tell them some genius on the internet just compared Dak Prescott to Joe friggin Montana.

 

[JDSmith]

Didn't Butler drop a TD pass last night? I didn't watch much of the game, but I seem to remember that he had a TD pass go right through his arms in the end zone. That's 7 points, then the punt return by Beasely, even if they don't gain a yard, that's an automatic FG, but there was a holding penalty on the return. Yeah, Dak and the offense had a bad game, but he wasn't the only reason. For the past games, many have discredited Dak, saying that it was all the OL and Zeke. He loses for the first time in games, and its all his fault!

You might want to watch the whole game before commenting. Dak was rattled all night, he was jump throwing, inaccurate, was hesitant to pull the trigger on runs and throws. He was lucky to have a 45 rating because he threw other balls up for grabs that didn't get picked off. Had they won it would have been spite of him. The Butler pass was hardly a 'drop' unless you are Dez. It's not as if he was wide open and missed the catch. Giants defenders missed easier catches, if you want to give and take away credit for 'almost' plays.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

You might want to watch the whole game before commenting. Dak was rattled all night, he was jump throwing, inaccurate, was hesitant to pull the trigger on runs and throws. He was lucky to have a 45 rating because he threw other balls up for grabs that didn't get picked off. Had they won it would have been spite of him. The Butler pass was hardly a 'drop' unless you are Dez. It's not as if he was wide open and missed the catch. Giants defenders missed easier catches, if you want to give and take away credit for 'almost' plays.

The throw to Butler hit him in the hands. If you're gonna point some blame at Dez for not catching the 4th down pass, you blame Butler for a catchable football too. There's a reason we like him, because he uses his hands and doesn't catch with his pads like TWill does.

Linehan gets some blame for pulling Zeke in pretty much all long distance plays and not utilizing even one screen.

 

[khiladi]

The throw to Butler hit him in the hands. If you're gonna point some blame at Dez for not catching the 4th down pass, you blame Butler for a catchable football too. There's a reason we like him, because he uses his hands and doesn't catch with his pads like TWill does.

Linehan gets some blame for pulling Zeke in pretty much all long distance plays and not utilizing even one screen.

No, Butler just timed his jump better than the Giants defender on the throw, who was in front of him and played it actually well.. but you can't blame Dak, because that was taking a good shot.. happens with all QBs..

And Dak did try and hit Zeke on the flats.. one time Zeke dropped it, but the Giants defender was there anyways and the other time on the left side, Dak threw it over his head..

And the Witten screen was almost picked off..

 

[sweetness0986]

Didn't Butler drop a TD pass last night? I didn't watch much of the game, but I seem to remember that he had a TD pass go right through his arms in the end zone. That's 7 points, then the punt return by Beasely, even if they don't gain a yard, that's an automatic FG, but there was a holding penalty on the return. Yeah, Dak and the offense had a bad game, but he wasn't the only reason. For the past 11 games, many have discredited Dak, saying that it was all the OL and Zeke. He loses for the first time in 11 games, and its all his fault!

I've seen much worse that this team has overcome. The officiating was good, there weren't too many penalties, and defense was coming up big getting turnovers. There's no excuse for not taking advantage of that and not being able to convert on 3rd down. There were mistakes all around on offense and yes, Dak was a huge part of that.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

You might want to watch the whole game before commenting. Dak was rattled all night, he was jump throwing, inaccurate, was hesitant to pull the trigger on runs and throws. He was lucky to have a 45 rating because he threw other balls up for grabs that didn't get picked off. Had they won it would have been spite of him. The Butler pass was hardly a 'drop' unless you are Dez. It's not as if he was wide open and missed the catch. Giants defenders missed easier catches, if you want to give and take away credit for 'almost' plays.

watching the game now, the Butler drop was easier than you might think. But regardless, Church has dropped 2 interceptions, the last one at the 30 yard line. That's 3 more points even if the offense doesn't gain another yard. In games like this where Dak is struggling, that is a potential game changing play. I know toward the end of the game Durant dropped a pick 6. Really good teams make those plays, especially when the offense is struggling.

 

[KRochelli]

Carson Wentz needs experience ....and a better supporting cast.

Dak Prescott needs talent. That's the problem. I have serious doubts that year 5 Prescott can be the QB we all want.

Supporting cast only? Well, you can at least admit Wentz has poor throwing mechanics that have not improved this season. He throws like a baseball player and therefore has a slow release. Wentz was quoted last week as not believing he has a mechanics problem which is an even bigger issue.

 

[theogt]

Um, this isn't Dak's personal classroom. I don't have time for him to "learn from this." How about we put in the guy who has already learned?

This x1000. I want a damn Super Bowl. Not growing pains.

 

[khiladi]

This x1000. I want a damn Super Bowl. Not growing pains.

This is possibly our best chance with Romo... to hell with growing pains.. we've had enough of those and the only argument they made for Dak starting is to not disrupt the unique run and chemistry they were having and that has slowed down, particularly on third down..

 

[Cowboysfan917]

Dak didn't win 11 games or lose 2. He played a part but his part has not been as big in the wins as some would have us believe. Dak is mechanically flawed. It's a fact. I hope he fixes it in the offseason. He's done a great job not turning the ball over most of the time.

2-24 on 3rd down is awful the past 2 games. The last possession last night was a total joke. To keep Dak in is wasting the season.

This isn't about one game. It's the way he's played all season. The book on him is out. The proof is in the film. If people think the playoffs will be different, they're fooling themselves

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Let it out, bro. You'll feel better.

Nah I'm good man. I knew that he was going to have games like this. It's football and he's a rookie. I'm good with it all.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Um, this isn't Dak's personal classroom. I don't have time for him to "learn from this." How about we put in the guy who has already learned?

I can appreciate your thought on this and what you're saying.

But the Cowboys coaches, and FO, don't care what you have time for.

It was clear when they made the choice to stick with Dak, when Romo got healthy, that they were going to be fine with this being his personal classroom.

That's how it is.

Unless he gets injured they will not be putting Romo in.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm still holding out hope that our statisticians can dazzle us with some numbers and make us feel better about the steamer our QB dropped last night.

lmao.

You're so fake.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

*sigh*

1. Wins are a team stat, not individual.

2. This is a team with superbowl aspirations. The "he's a rookie" excuse doesn't fly. Not until the league starts awarding bonus points because players are rookies.

3. Romo has had a long career, we know what type of player he is. It's foolish to assume he would just suddenly suck.

4. People want the best player to play. At least some do. The only hate I have seen is towards Romo.

Excellent points.

And it summarized, I believe, exactly why some are now really wanting Romo.

The problem is that this should have been obvious to people prior to now. They should have known all along it would get a lot tougher down the stretch. They should have known that the lack of experience was going to hurt Dak down the stretch.

Many people ignored that and just figured he'd absolutely do everything a rookie has never done before. The coaching staff made the call to get the experience now, even at the potential of costing them a championship run.

They're going to have to ride and die with Dak now. They made that choice. In the long run I believe it will help Dak tremendously for seasons going forward.

But it will no doubt cost them a real chance at a championship this year.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

This loss was on the offense. If Dez doesn't slip and we complete the pass, that could have a huge change on the game. And if we erase that and Dez is actually competitive on the 2nd INT, the who landscape of the game changes.

What the organization needs to be able to do is avoid this type of offensive performance and style of play on offense in games like this.

Y'know, the games where the defense shows double A-Gap blitz and is zone blitzing us to death and we slow down the offensive pace to a snail's crawl and we can never figure things out.

We've seen this type of game from Romo on plenty of occasions. Sometimes you just have to line up, snap the stupid ball and shove it right down their throat.

But, as I've said...they play 2 road games in a row. Very low percentages to win 2 games in a row on the road, particularly in December. I think that gets lost in all of this, especially if we win the next 3 games pretty handily and solidify HFA in the playoffs.





YR

 

[Clove]

I know, what a joke. Nice logic, we don't know that Romo is any better, so let's just keep on going as is. *** kind of backwards, stupid-*** logic is that? 2 for 22 in 3rd down conversions last two games. Under 50% completion rate and 7 points scored last night. Why exactly are you so adamant about defending Dak and so willing to throw a guy who was performing at an MVP level the last time he was healthy to the curb?

Dumbest post of the day so far.

10 years 2 playoff wins, that's why. We've seen what Romo can do and it's not good. Now it's time to move on and see what the rookie can do after a loss. The last time he lost, he went 11 straight.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I see. So this is really about your total inability to recognize that Romo is a great QB who has been on awful teams for the most part. Got it. Eli won two SBs. But yeah, he's a HOFer and Romo isn't. Never mind what every single measurable stat says about their respective play over the years. It's all "Duuuuh, how many SBs has Romo won? Duuuuh."

So if Romo comes in and has a bad game or loses a game on this team that people are saying that he needs a chance with, then I'm assuming that Romo would get all of the blame and would be called for to get benched like Dak is?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm still holding out hope that our statisticians can dazzle us with some numbers and make us feel better about the steamer our QB dropped last night.

Well, we dominated in the run game and passed the ball less effectively than the Giants and we lost.

All we've heard this entire season is how what really matters is the running game and now we showed on Sunday night that despite killing them in the running game...we lost.

Why?

Because we lost the passing game battle.



YR

 

[TheSkaven]

Nice post.

8. We have two losses to the same team this year as our only loss. The grand total of points we lost those two games by is....4...that's right 4 total points. We are all upset to be swept by the giants, we are all upset at how terrible the offense played...but let's not go overboard and act like we took a butt whooping of epic proportions. We lost two game this year by a grand total of 4 points. That is still two losses...but let's not our emotions get too carried away.

I agree BP, and I'm not ready to leap off the Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge just yet, but this offense is broken. It has less to do with playing better defenses and more to do with the receivers not running great routes and the quarterback making questionable decisions. Dak made key mistakes yesterday, more than the interceptions those sacks - when he'd normally be off and running.

The good news is that we have three more weeks to fix it.