Hibbert Fined 75K For Remarks

[Idgit]

I agree with the majority of what you're saying, but on this particular issue, I can't see how anyone thinks we are past all that as a society.

And as long as there's no hostility, I think bringing stuff like this to light is what helps us get there. Yes some people will just continue to use certain words/phrases that don't pretain to them, while insisting to others that the word/phrase may pretain to, that it's not offensive, but most may not realize that something they say as a joke can indeed be hurtfull to someone else.

We basically agree. What I was getting at is that, especially with people in their 20's, many of them don't have perspective on civil or social struggles that happened largely before they were born. Prejudice against sexual orientation is by no means a thing of the past, but it also doesn't have the same stigma that it had even a few decades ago with the rise of incidence of AIDS in the early 80's.

It's easy to see things as 'no big deal' when you don't have the longer term perspective. From my own observations of Millennials, a lot of them consider some of the social issues us slightly older generations had to sort through to be obviously solved problems. That's clearly not the case for our society as a whole. Overall, it's a good thing, and it's part of what drives cultures forward when a younger generation takes a notion for granted and moves on to the next topic.

Not sure that's what's happening here. It might be. But that's the idea I was trying to get at.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Now while I understand the view that no offence was intended and that it is not much different from that's gay (and yes I do use those terms) at the end of the day, if you subsitute "black" for "gay" would you think that the comment "that's black" would be offensive if said in a similar context?

Face it, the only reason those kind of put downs are used is because it is still seen as a problem for many people if you are gay. It is still not widely accepted in society.

In the end, it is a putdown.

 

[AbeBeta]

No, the profanity wasn't anything offensive at all.. just said mother humper. It was just an overreaction from a very PC world, like ABQ said.

Wow. Just wow.

It is clearly a slur. He called the guy a homo -- he didn't do so to be friendly. He is using the work in a derogatory manner to insult the reporter. When you do that it is offensive to many people. Not just gay people but straight people who think it is high time for people to stop making gays feel uncomfortable or unaccepted.

When you label stuff as "PC" it conveys an attitude that the group in question doesn't deserve to be treated respectfully.

 

[AbeBeta]

Poor choice of words because it cost him 75k, but it really isn't a "slur." Maybe people should start becoming offended by being called hetero.

And Hetero has been used historically in a derogative manner? Has hetero been used for years as an insult to a person's manhood?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Wow. Just wow.

It is clearly a slur. He called the guy a homo -- he didn't do so to be friendly. He is using the work in a derogatory manner to insult the reporter. When you do that it is offensive to many people. Not just gay people but straight people who think it is high time for people to stop making gays feel uncomfortable or unaccepted.

When you label stuff as "PC" it conveys an attitude that the group in question doesn't deserve to be treated respectfully.

What? He didn't call anyone a homo. What are you talking about?

 

[RastaRocket]

Wow. Just wow.

It is clearly a slur. He called the guy a homo -- he didn't do so to be friendly. He is using the work in a derogatory manner to insult the reporter. When you do that it is offensive to many people. Not just gay people but straight people who think it is high time for people to stop making gays feel uncomfortable or unaccepted.

When you label stuff as "PC" it conveys an attitude that the group in question doesn't deserve to be treated respectfully.

He called nobody a homo. He was rambling on about his love for fellow teammate Paul George and then said "no homo" afterwards as a joke.

 

[StylisticS]

first time i heard of "no homo" was in 2008 and it was from a youtube video. IIRC the guy's name was Cal Newman, and he was the guy who i believed coined the phrase but im not 100% sure.

people get way too caught up with PC and its really annoying and even borderline stupid at times. my really good friend/college roommate was a PC **** and would CONSTANTLY correct me. Now don't get it twisted I don't go around throwing out slurs and profanity but if I said something like "being gyped" he would throw a fit because that is offensive to gypseys (SP?)

Its been around longer than that. I think no homo has been used since around 2005 when dipset, really Cam'ron came out with it. It's not meant to be offensive to gays at all. He didnt call anyone gay. That phrase is really about himself and nobody else.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

He called nobody a homo. He was rambling on about his love for fellow teammate Paul George and then said "no homo" afterwards as a joke.

Yea, he didn't call anyone a homo. He was talking about in game 3 or 5 how he let Paul George down, not being able to defend the rim. He said they "stretched him out" and followed that by saying no homo.

 

[AbeBeta]

He called nobody a homo. He was rambling on about his love for fellow teammate Paul George and then said "no homo" afterwards as a joke.

So it is a compliment to say he isn't a homo? Still clearly a slur.

 

[AbeBeta]

What? He didn't call anyone a homo. What are you talking about?

So it is OK to compliment someone by saying he is no homo? Clearly a slur either way.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

So it is OK to compliment someone by saying he is no homo? Clearly a slur either way.

I don't think you quite understand what the phrase means.. either way, this is part of the problem.

People just looking for an excuse to overreact before they even understand what was said in the first place.

To try and help you out, the "no homo" comment that Hibbert made, was in reference to himself.. not George. It simply means, "though i said something that sounds like it might have some sort of sexual meaning to it, i am not a homosexual."

 

[RastaRocket]

So it is a compliment to say he isn't a homo? Still clearly a slur.

He said HE (Roy Hibbert) was not a homo. Whatever, people say this all the time it's not a big deal.

It was a joke, a very commonly used joke for that matter. Kind of like a "yo momma" joke.

 

[AbeBeta]

I don't think you quite understand what the phrase means.. either way, this is part of the problem.

People just looking for an excuse to overreact before they even understand what was said in the first place.

To try and help you out, the "no homo" comment that Hibbert made, was in reference to himself.. not George. It simply means, "though i said something that sounds like it might have some sort of sexual meaning to it, i am not a homosexual."

Again. As if homo was bad. Slur

 

[AbeBeta]

He said HE (Roy Hibbert) was not a homo. Whatever, people say this all the time it's not a big deal.

It was a joke, a very commonly used joke for that matter. Kind of like a "yo momma" joke.

Yeah. Except for the part where moms are revered and gay folks the targets of discrimination.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Again. As if homo was bad. Slur

That's your assumption. All he said was that he was not a homosexual. If your opinion is that homosexuality is a bad thing, that's more a personal issue for you, imo.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Yeah. Except for the part where moms are revered and gay folks the targets of discrimination.

So if some minority folks started making insulting comments towards white people, that would be ok because white folks arn't generally targets for discrimination?

 

[AbeBeta]

That's your assumption. All he said was that he was not a homosexual. If your opinion is that homosexuality is a bad thing, that's more a personal issue for you, imo.

What a crock of . The implications of the statement are clear. You wouldn't distance yourself from something you view as positive.

 

[RastaRocket]

Yeah. Except for the part where moms are revered and gay folks the targets of discrimination.

So people can say anything about your mom and it's OK with you?

 

[RastaRocket]

What a crock of . The implications of the statement are clear. You wouldn't distance yourself from something you view as positive.

Yes, he's joking and saying although I have great man love for Paul, I do not like him in a sexual way. Doesn't mean he has anything against gay people. Even if he did have anything against gay people that is his right, and in this country he can express his opinion. I still think it wasn't professional, but whatever. I have no problem with the comments outside of a professional setting.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Yes, he's joking and saying although I have great man love for Paul, I do not like him in a sexual way. Doesn't mean he has anything against gay people. Even if he did have anything against gay people that is his right, and in this country he can express his opinion. I still think it wasn't professional, but whatever. I have no problem with the comments outside of a professional setting.

Like i said, people like that are definitely part of the problem we have in this country. Too many people looking for any little thing to overreact to, even when they don't even understand what was being said in the first place.