Highly Recommend watching the Gruden Kiper draft special it was great

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Gruden is officially a clown.

When breaking down Vic Beasley......Gruden was all over him when he blew up a pulling G. He loved that play. If I was in that room I would have argued it was Beasely's fault... that play went for a long gain because he gave up containment. He was more interested in making a hit than doing his job. You would think a professional coach would have caught that.o_O
 

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Here is their exchange on Winston vs Mariota.


Gruden:
Who is Tampa going to take? Who should they take?

Kiper: Winston. That redshirt freshman season, what he did leading that team to a national title, never losing in his career until the Oregon game in the Rose Bowl last season, where it wasn't his fault. The refuse-to-lose mentality that he had even without two of his top three receivers and his running back, he still went out this year and led them to an undefeated season.

What about those interceptions? Well, how about the second halves of those games when he had to be flawless, and he was? All that stacks up to a quarterback who should be the No. 1 pick by a wide margin. The reason he is not is because of the off-field issues. Mariota has questions going from Oregon to the NFL. I will lean toward Winston as the No. 1 quarterback but in no way, shape or form am I convinced he can be an effective CEO of a football team.

Gruden: As much as I like Winston, I am taking Mariota. Athletically, he is incredible. The guy needs an S on his chest. Kryptonite can't slow down Mariota. You ever see Superman? Mariota allows you to call any play. You want to run a zone-read, you want to run quarterback-driven runs, you want to run a West Coast offense, you want to run anything, he can run it. He doesn't need great support around him at all these offensive line positions. Winston is a helluva quarterback. But you'd better get some protection for him. You'd better have a system in place with some audibles ready, because he is going to need them.

Kiper: Can Mariota be a great player in the league?

Gruden: I think he can get into the NFC South and be a championship quarterback if he is handled properly. He can create some of the problems Russell Wilson creates for defenses. Now I've got a few questions for you, Mel. Who is a better athlete? You got the times?

Kiper: Mariota is the better athlete.

Gruden: Who is the better decision-maker off the field?

Kiper: Mariota.

Gruden: Who is the better decision-maker on the field when it comes to taking care of the football?

Kiper: Mariota.

Gruden: And who won when they played head-to-head?

Kiper: Mariota, but I don't care about that.

Gruden: I'm just saying, it just seems to me that everything adds up to Mariota.
 

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On Perryman


Is the next Ray Lewis in this draft, and if so, should teams really wait until the second round before taking him?


Gruden:
Denzel Perryman is one of my favorite players in the draft. I don't understand why he isn't in the top 10 of this pool of players, really.

Kiper: Top 10 overall?

Gruden: Why not? He makes all the tackles. He is like Ray Lewis. You criticized Ray Lewis. I heard you on here years ago. "Twenty-sixth pick, he doesn't deserve it." He is the greatest linebacker that ever played. Where do you have Perryman this year? He is just like Ray Lewis.

Kiper: Perryman is 5-10 1/2 and 236 pounds. Very athletic, incredibly strong, fast enough and instinctive. Does he fit every defense? That is the thing. Who fits every defense of the inside linebackers? Is it Eric Kendricks of UCLA?

Gruden: If he doesn't fit your defense, fire your defensive staff.

Kiper: Perryman is a guy I am taking in the second round.

Gruden: Second round? You have Randy Gregory and Vic Beasley going ahead of Perryman?

Kiper: Yeah.

Gruden: OK, you and I are not from the same planet. Take a look at this film. You like this hit right here, Mel? You think you got a hit of Beasley or Gregory ever doing this? He is the most explosive hitter in this draft, Perryman. He has jaw-dropping hits, doesn't he?

Kiper: No question about it. But again, where did Ray Lewis go in the draft?

Gruden: In this draft, you are telling me he is a second-round pick?

Kiper: In any draft there will be guys who go in the first round that Jon Gruden doesn't like, but they allow great players to get to the second round and he is going to be one of those guys that goes in the second round and you'll say three years down the road, 'Why didn't he go in the first?' He is 5-10 1/2, he is 236 pounds and he is an inside 'backer.

Gruden: It will be one of the biggest mistakes in this draft if he goes that late.
 

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On Peters

How early should a team select Marcus Peters?

Gruden:
Did you watch the Super Bowl? Did you see Brandon Browner? Did you see Darrelle Revis? And then Malcolm Butler? Did you think those guys made a real statement against Seattle? What if I told you my No. 1 corner in this draft is Peters, but he got thrown off the team?

Kiper: That is fine. Shaq Thompson says, "Hey, he is the first one on the practice field, he works hard in the offseason."

Gruden: What else is Shaq gonna say? What does Coach Chris Peterson say? What does Coach Steve Sarkisian say about him? What is the problem with this kid? Those are great college coaches.

Kiper: This is a heckuva football player. The way he gets in the face of these receivers, he does not back down from a challenge. He is a supremely confident football player. He is physical. He will tackle. He will play the run. Peters loves to play the game, he is enthusiastic. How many times was the guy beaten?

Gruden: Keep talking great about him, Mel. Why did he get kicked off the team, then?

Kiper: He had a disagreement with the staff.

Gruden: Really? Like what was the disagreement about? Training table? The food? The coverage? Having a meeting? Getting on a plane? Being at curfew? I mean, he got kicked off. Coaches don't kick off their best player from the team. That is a lot of smoke and there must be some fire in this young man's life here. Is there?

Kiper: I can tell you this, Jon. He is going to be a first-round pick. In this cornerback class, when you think about the guys like Kevin Johnson of Wake Forest and Jalen Collins at LSU and a Byron Jones at Connecticut and Waynes at Michigan State, if it wasn't for the dismissal from the football team this year, Peters would have been a top-10 pick. I believe even though he ran that 4.5 40 at the combine he would have been top-10, top-12. Now you are probably getting Peters between 20 and 32.

Gruden: People were concerned about Aqib Talib a few years ago. I said, "Give me that Aqib Talib, No. 3 from Kansas." Well, we got Talib. My point is, Mel, Peters is my No. 1 corner. I love the talent. I realize young people make mistakes. But I don't want to have a distraction every day. Some of my veteran players might not feel the same that I do, see what I'm saying? I have to check my locker room. If I have a strong locker room, a lot of football character, like the Ravens did when they drafted Jimmy Smith, you feel like you can bring in a character and surround him with football character guys, I think you can really help a young man like this become a superstar on and off the field.

Kiper: He is a lockdown corner and if he is that, there is no way he gets into the second round, is there?

Gruden: No way. I said that about the Honey Badger, Tyrann Mathieu, too.

Kiper: This isn't the same case, though.
 

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I did as well and you're wrong. He did everything for them.!

Agreed. With out injury he was a 1st round pick. In college he was regarded in the same class at AP... some even said he was/ would be better because of his pass catching.
 

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When breaking down Vic Beasley......Gruden was all over him when he blew up a pulling G. He loved that play. If I was in that room I would have argued it was Beasely's fault... that play went for a long gain because he gave up containment. He was more interested in making a hit than doing his job. You would think a professional coach would have caught that.o_O

Yeah I was thinking the same thing...Sure he destroyed a guy much much bigger than him but he also let the RB go right by him.
 

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I heard that live, and yes I did.

Caliendo is amazing. His Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro are unbelievable. And his content is as good as the impersonations themselves. Best of all time, by a mile.

Love this, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=YS04vku20hw

Here's the list of voices he does:

* Adam Sandler
* Andy Reid
* Arnold Schwarzenegger
* Al Gore
* Al Michaels
* Al Pacino
* Andy Rooney
* Barney Rubble
* Bill Clinton
* Bill Walton
* Brian Regan
* Casey Kasem
* Charles Barkley
* Chris Farley
* Chris Rock
* Christopher Lloyd (as Doctor Emmett Brown)
* Christopher Walken
* Clint Eastwood
* David Letterman
* Deborah Jeanne Rowe
* Dick Cheney
* Don Pardo
* Donald Trump
* Doris Roberts
* Drew Carey
* Fred Flintstone
* Fred Grandy
* George W. Bush
* Grover
* Harry Caray
* Howie Long
* Ian McShane
* Jack Nicholson
* James Brown (sports television personality)
* James Gandolfini (as himself and as Tony Soprano)
* James Lipton
* Jason Alexander (as George Costanza)
* Jason Wilde
* Jay Leno
* Janeane Garofalo
* Jeff Garlin
* Jeff Goldblum
* Jerry Seinfeld
* Jim Carrey
* Jim Rome
* Jimmy Johnson
* Joe Pesci
* Joey Fatone
* John Madden
* Johnny Carson
* Jonathan Winters
* Julia Louis-Dreyfus (as Elaine Benes)
* Keanu Reeves
* Kevin Brandt
* Kelsey Grammer
* Kermit the Frog
* Terrell Owens
* Larry Flynt
* Louie Anderson
* Marv Albert
* Matthew Perry (as Chandler Bing)
* Michael J. Fox (as Marty McFly)
* Michael Richards (as himself and as Cosmo Kramer)
* Mike Ditka
* Mike Myers (as himself and as Austin Powers and Doctor Evil)
* Mike Tyson
* Miss Piggy
* Norm MacDonald
* Paul Shaffer
* Pauly Shore
* Pat O'Brien
* Pat Summerall
* Dr. Phil McGraw
* Philip Seymour Hoffman
* Ray Romano
* Regis Philbin
* Richard Dreyfuss
* Rick Moranis
* Robert De Niro
* Robert David Hall as (Doctor Al Robbins)
* Robin Leach
* Robin Williams
* Rod Roddy
* Roger Ebert
* Rodney Dangerfield
* Rush Limbaugh
* Scooby-Doo
* Sean Astin
* Sean Connery
* Shaggy Rogers (Scooby-Doo)
* T. R. Knight
* Ted Knight
* Ted Koppel
* Terry Bradshaw
* Tom Brokaw
* Tony Danza
* Truman Capote
* Wayne Knight (as Newman)
* William Shatner
* Yoda
 
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Demarco says hi. Jk. While Demarco was not a world beater, he turned out pretty good considering many passed on him until we grabbed him in thethe 3rd.

True. I am not a NFL scout and fully acknowledge that my ability to determine if a very good college RB can become a good NFL RB is almost non-existent.

I watched just about every one of Tom Brady's games at the University of Michigan and I would have bet you everything I own he wouldn't have been even a Pro-Bowl player not to mention arguably the greatest QB in NFL history.
 

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On Perryman

Is the next Ray Lewis in this draft, and if so, should teams really wait until the second round before taking him?

Gruden: Denzel Perryman is one of my favorite players in the draft. I don't understand why he isn't in the top 10 of this pool of players, really.

Kiper: Top 10 overall?

Gruden: Why not? He makes all the tackles. He is like Ray Lewis. You criticized Ray Lewis. I heard you on here years ago. "Twenty-sixth pick, he doesn't deserve it." He is the greatest linebacker that ever played. Where do you have Perryman this year? He is just like Ray Lewis.

Kiper: Perryman is 5-10 1/2 and 236 pounds. Very athletic, incredibly strong, fast enough and instinctive. Does he fit every defense? That is the thing. Who fits every defense of the inside linebackers? Is it Eric Kendricks of UCLA?

Gruden: If he doesn't fit your defense, fire your defensive staff.

Kiper: Perryman is a guy I am taking in the second round.

Gruden: Second round? You have Randy Gregory and Vic Beasley going ahead of Perryman?

Kiper: Yeah.

Gruden: OK, you and I are not from the same planet. Take a look at this film. You like this hit right here, Mel? You think you got a hit of Beasley or Gregory ever doing this? He is the most explosive hitter in this draft, Perryman. He has jaw-dropping hits, doesn't he?

Kiper: No question about it. But again, where did Ray Lewis go in the draft?

Gruden: In this draft, you are telling me he is a second-round pick?

Kiper: In any draft there will be guys who go in the first round that Jon Gruden doesn't like, but they allow great players to get to the second round and he is going to be one of those guys that goes in the second round and you'll say three years down the road, 'Why didn't he go in the first?' He is 5-10 1/2, he is 236 pounds and he is an inside 'backer.

Gruden: It will be one of the biggest mistakes in this draft if he goes that late.

He doesn't fit the Cowboys scheme, but Perryman will be a tremendous LB in the NFL.
 

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It's on ESPNU at 3:30 today if anyone wishes to watch it, was a very good show.
 

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I heard that live, and yes I did.

Caliendo is amazing. His Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro are unbelievable. And his content is as good as the impersonations themselves. Best of all time, by a mile.

Love this, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=YS04vku20hw

Here's the list of voices he does:

* Adam Sandler
* Andy Reid
* Arnold Schwarzenegger
* Al Gore
* Al Michaels
* Al Pacino
* Andy Rooney
* Barney Rubble
* Bill Clinton
* Bill Walton
* Brian Regan
* Casey Kasem
* Charles Barkley
* Chris Farley
* Chris Rock
* Christopher Lloyd (as Doctor Emmett Brown)
* Christopher Walken
* Clint Eastwood
* David Letterman
* Deborah Jeanne Rowe
* Dick Cheney
* Don Pardo
* Donald Trump
* Doris Roberts
* Drew Carey
* Fred Flintstone
* Fred Grandy
* George W. Bush
* Grover
* Harry Caray
* Howie Long
* Ian McShane
* Jack Nicholson
* James Brown (sports television personality)
* James Gandolfini (as himself and as Tony Soprano)
* James Lipton
* Jason Alexander (as George Costanza)
* Jason Wilde
* Jay Leno
* Janeane Garofalo
* Jeff Garlin
* Jeff Goldblum
* Jerry Seinfeld
* Jim Carrey
* Jim Rome
* Jimmy Johnson
* Joe Pesci
* Joey Fatone
* John Madden
* Johnny Carson
* Jonathan Winters
* Julia Louis-Dreyfus (as Elaine Benes)
* Keanu Reeves
* Kevin Brandt
* Kelsey Grammer
* Kermit the Frog
* Terrell Owens
* Larry Flynt
* Louie Anderson
* Marv Albert
* Matthew Perry (as Chandler Bing)
* Michael J. Fox (as Marty McFly)
* Michael Richards (as himself and as Cosmo Kramer)
* Mike Ditka
* Mike Myers (as himself and as Austin Powers and Doctor Evil)
* Mike Tyson
* Miss Piggy
* Norm MacDonald
* Paul Shaffer
* Pauly Shore
* Pat O'Brien
* Pat Summerall
* Dr. Phil McGraw
* Philip Seymour Hoffman
* Ray Romano
* Regis Philbin
* Richard Dreyfuss
* Rick Moranis
* Robert De Niro
* Robert David Hall as (Doctor Al Robbins)
* Robin Leach
* Robin Williams
* Rod Roddy
* Roger Ebert
* Rodney Dangerfield
* Rush Limbaugh
* Scooby-Doo
* Sean Astin
* Sean Connery
* Shaggy Rogers (Scooby-Doo)
* T. R. Knight
* Ted Knight
* Ted Koppel
* Terry Bradshaw
* Tom Brokaw
* Tony Danza
* Truman Capote
* Wayne Knight (as Newman)
* William Shatner
* Yoda

I believe you missed Morgan Freeman. "The Bears are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook. Now if you want to crown them, you can crown them. But the Bears are who we thought they were."

He did the Denny Green tirade in Freeman's voice. Talk about hilarious. :lmao::lmao2:

The guy is pure genius.
 

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I believe you missed Morgan Freeman. "The Bears are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook. Now if you want to crown them, you can crown them. But the Bears are who we thought they were."

He did the Denny Green tirade in Freeman's voice. Talk about hilarious. :lmao::lmao2:

The guy is pure genius.

Might have been an older list, because yes, Morgan Freeman is one of his best.
 

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He doesn't fit the Cowboys scheme, but Perryman will be a tremendous LB in the NFL.

I find a way for him to fit. The kid is a player. He navigates through traffic an destroys ball carriers. RB and WR will be looking for him after a few hits. Put Bishop at NT to eat up blocks and let this kid play MIKE. He'll be good!
 
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