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(for the second home town in illadelph... yeah they crazy and like the eagles... still one of my homes!)
 
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Straighten It Out
good way to leave it today!

(we really need a samples thread... thats the real)
 
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Denim Chicken said:


Lol
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I forgot about this...
This is what started this.... (LL dissed him in the song for what Can-i-bus said was innocent bars)


And This pretty much ended it (in my opinion... such a promising career just ended... give the Canibus props, He killed it in the song with Common)
 
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RonSpringsdaman20 said:
I forgot about this...
This is what started this.... (LL dissed him in the song for what Can-i-bus said was innocent bars)


And This pretty much ended it (in my opinion... such a promising career just ended... give the Canibus props, He killed it in the song with Common)
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I always liked Canibus. I thought his career would have been different if he had someone else making him beats.
 
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mldardy said:
It really doesn't. That list is the best rappers of all time. Not the best rappers of NY or West Coast or wherever. You don't separate any other greatest of all time list like that. Where I live has nothing to do with it. Skill level, longevity, quality classic albums. My top 5, I'll give you my top 10 solo artists:

Nas
Rakim
Scarface
BIG
Pac
KRS-One
Jay-Z
Common
Ice Cube
LL Cool J

So let's see I have Midwest rapper, 2 West Coast(even though Pac isn't from the West), and a Southern rapper. Is that good enough for you. It shouldn't matter and it doesn't to me. If you are good you are good.
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Not a bad list but definitely east coast biased.

My own top 10--ish:
1. Rakim --basically invented being a true lyricist. i aint no joke is otherwordly level lyrics and unheard of in that era.
2. Biggie --"if my burglar alarm starts ringin, theres gonna be a lot of slow singin and flower bringin" "Who shot ya??? Seperate the weak from the ob solete --aimed at Pac"
3. Scarface --very underrated because it took people a long time to get hip to him. his early stuff as part of geto boys is ridiculous.
4. Eminem --has a lot of mediocre work but his best is right there at the top. Has been the best guest verse rapper of all time. Renegade/Roman's Revenge/Biggie Dead Wrong remix--"
4B Pac --all eyez on me is the 2nd or 3rd best real rap album in existence, but makiveli was over the top thug and the previous work was all consciousness music that played better to chicks. A friggin shame we never got to see Pac grow into a reconciliation of his good heart and the thug he was made into. --apparently that growth had something to do with his murder.
5. Nas --very overrated to me. Good, but he was never the best in his own city. He flat lost the battle with Jay Z if only because the stuff Jay said was painfully/awkwardly true. He is more skillful than Jay tho. His second best CD is probably the Firm.
6. Andre 3000 --insanely underrated rapper. i could listen to southerplayacadillacmusik once a week for life.
7. KRS-One. --perhaps slightly overated but for the right reasons. Made something of his self and never ate off others.
8. The D.O.C. --heinously underrated. people dont realize how much of NWA's music he wrote... essentially all of it. car wreck messed up his voice box and ended a bright career early.
9. Cube --only dude i've seen that wore a jheri curl and didn't look silly with it. carried NWA's mix of money grubbers and 30 year olds. Love jackin for beats.
10. Black Thought --The Professional, 75 Bars, Super Lyrical

Hon Men: gotta give Jay and LL shouts for longevity and overall industry success. People ate off them for a bit but they flipped the script and handled business.
--while they get knocked as commercial, they've influenced society as a whole more than any other rappers imho.
And both could flat go when they worked at it on a regular.
 
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jterrell said:
Not a bad list but definitely east coast biased.

My own top 10--ish:
1. Rakim --basically invented being a true lyricist. i aint no joke is otherwordly level lyrics and unheard of in that era.
2. Biggie --"if my burglar alarm starts ringin, theres gonna be a lot of slow singin and flower bringin" "Who shot ya??? Seperate the weak from the ob solete --aimed at Pac"
3. Scarface --very underrated because it took people a long time to get hip to him. his early stuff as part of geto boys is ridiculous.
4. Eminem --has a lot of mediocre work but his best is right there at the top. Has been the best guest verse rapper of all time. Renegade/Roman's Revenge/Biggie Dead Wrong remix--"
4B Pac --all eyez on me is the 2nd or 3rd best real rap album in existence, but makiveli was over the top thug and the previous work was all consciousness music that played better to chicks. A friggin shame we never got to see Pac grow into a reconciliation of his good heart and the thug he was made into. --apparently that growth had something to do with his murder.
5. Nas --very overrated to me. Good, but he was never the best in his own city. He flat lost the battle with Jay Z if only because the stuff Jay said was painfully/awkwardly true. He is more skillful than Jay tho. His second best CD is probably the Firm.
6. Andre 3000 --insanely underrated rapper. i could listen to southerplayacadillacmusik once a week for life.
7. KRS-One. --perhaps slightly overated but for the right reasons. Made something of his self and never ate off others.
8. The D.O.C. --heinously underrated. people dont realize how much of NWA's music he wrote... essentially all of it. car wreck messed up his voice box and ended a bright career early.
9. Cube --only dude i've seen that wore a jheri curl and didn't look silly with it. carried NWA's mix of money grubbers and 30 year olds. Love jackin for beats.
10. Black Thought --The Professional, 75 Bars, Super Lyrical

Hon Men: gotta give Jay and LL shouts for longevity and overall industry success. People ate off them for a bit but they flipped the script and handled business.
--while they get knocked as commercial, they've influenced society as a whole more than any other rappers imho.
And both could flat go when they worked at it on a regular.
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Agree with you big time there. Scarface is a DC idol dating back to Geto Boys. Can spit street and knowledge (ranges depending on theme of song, etc.)
 

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RonSpringsdaman20 said:
I forgot about this...
This is what started this.... (LL dissed him in the song for what Can-i-bus said was innocent bars)


And This pretty much ended it (in my opinion... such a promising career just ended... give the Canibus props, He killed it in the song with Common)
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YIKES. I may be wrong but I think you have the years and songs mixed up. I shot ya was made in 1995 and 2pac took it as a diss. I personally thought that he was trying to start the beef up again with Ice T. 4,3,2,1 came out in late 97 or early 98.

The song LL came back if I can recall was called the Ripper Strikes Back or some people called it as the Third Round K.O.

Canibus still has a career just not as well known because he is doing it thru his website or underground. I think the major strike was him beefing with Wyclef when he was produced some of his songs on his first album. That probably affected his chances of working with a good producer in the industry. I'm not a real Canibus fan but I did enjoy Rip the Jacker that came out I think in 03 or 04.
 
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