cboyd;3311429 said:
Ok here is the thing cowboyjoe we both agree that Dez is talented and kids need to mature when going for any job or this case impressing teams to draft draft you but thats not the issue here. The issue here is that you are believing every rumor out there and accusing a kid of being immature based on those rumors. But the thing is that you don't have anything to back up those rumors. You take rumors to heart as if they are facts. This is like me saying that I heard from a source that cowboyjoe haves a serious problem with drugs. Do I know you? no. Do I know this for a fact? no. But if I spread this rumor and some people would just ignore it because there is nothing to back it up but there are a few people like your self who would believe this rumor and likes to spread these rumors as if they are a guarantee fact. The thing is you set an image of an individual and have your mind made up on them no matter what. If Dez is like what you say he is in the NFL then I will admit I was totally wrong and you were right.
Oh by the way I want to clarify that cowboyjoe is not on drugs or anything associated with that. I believe that he is a very intelligent individual who I respect and enjoys having conversation with and hold debates.
No, i told you, i have sources (kids at high school that knew dez, I know 3 kids that went to school and knew him), he was late to meetings, practices at high school, drinking etc.... No, rumor but fact! Just like i said, he has huge hands. I did not say any college rumors because i have no sources at college that he went too. Just like the document you sent me, coach outlaw had him called into his office so many times and dez cried. At a certain point in life, you have to come down on the player or he doesnt learn anything. Thats my whole point.
Again, my main point is he has had lack of leadership, authoritive figures in his life to have him toe the mark. Sometimes he did, sometimes not,even you sent that article. Just like the article you sent, the college source decided they would follow him and help him, but they couldnt do it 24/7. Just like cover 2 told you a source told him that his source was a pllayer and that he was drunk at practice.
Now, let me help you read between the lines. when a player is drunk, dont you think the coaches know that, but they let him get away with it and dez was still the most dominat player at wr on the field even drunk. Thats my point, just like reggie mcneal, javorski lane, etc. they followed the wrong crowd, etc and didnt make it in the nfl. I do not again, blame this all on dez, to me, alot lays at the doorstep of coach outlaw for letting him get away with things and showing favortism. This to me is what has hurt Dez, but again, just like in story you posted, his father kicked him out of the house too.What reason we dont know, but 10 to 1, he didnt follow guidelines in the mans house. Inmaturity.
So, Dez has been allowed to get away with things to a degree but when he did get suspended by college for the deion sanders thing, what did dez do? Did he show up at the combine in shape and ready to run? No! Thats the point im trying to make.
Finally, I am not trying to prove I am right or wrong, but that when you draft that top pick, you had better hit on him to help your team for 10 to 12 years. Just like after we got through the white house issue in the 90s, michael irvin issue, erik williams issue, etc... and randy moss was drafted. He had some issues in life, etc.. But we chose to draft greg ellis. People were hollering for the cowboys to clean up their act and players. We just got through cleaning out the locker room with pacman, tank johnson, T O, Greg Ellis, roy williams safety, and others towards players that wanted to play football and were team oriented.
You have to hit on that first round draft choice. Or your dead in the water 3 to 4 years down the road because your draft choices didnt make it.
This is the bottom line with me, just like matt the ex gm of the lions, he got fired for making stupid draft choices within 5 years of taking Mike Williams, Roy Williams, Rogers and Calvin Johnson. You cant keep taking WRs with your very first pick, will come back to bite you. Thats my point.
Just like I said, first 3 players the cowboys looked at in the draft were jason fox, trent williams and dez bryant. Why Dez, with the cowboys picking 27th, because they thought he might fall. Didnt randy moss fall? Didnt the great Jerry Rice fall? But you have to be sure with that pick.
You have to hit with it! Bottom line, i dont care if its dez, or upati, or whomever, but you have to hit with that player with your first pick. We are still suffering some for trading a number one and 3rd draft choice for roy williams. Draft choices are the life blood of your team. I am not the head scout or gm or owner of the cowboys, so i am not responsible for those draft choices. But I do know, if you miss on that top draft choice it sets you back for years. You have to hit. I would be thrilled if Dez says, ok, im going to show you wrong, and prove to the teams that passed on me in the draft, that im going to make them pay for years like randy moss did. That just to me, brings the spunk up in the player to prove people wrong. Just like safety roy williams said once, he wanted to show on person on the cowboyszone that he was wrong about him and he would be a top safety. We all know what happened dont we?
If its something that i said that made Dez or whatever player work harder, prove himself to me and others, then im all for it. Sometimes you have to challenge a player. but you have to hit on that top draft choice. Just like JaMarcus Russell, who is fat and out of shape, but how many years is it taking him now in the NFL? We dont have time for a guy to decide to grow up after 3 years or so.
We are real close to being a superbowl team, we need help now, we dont need another inmature player like Martellus Bennett to decide he will be ready to work hard by his 3rd year or grow up. WE need help now. We have a window that will close in 4-5 years, we need to do it now!