cboyd;3311709 said:
I did not say that you got your sources from a college. I said that you get your sources from highschool players. Which no matter if they are in contact now or just back then that is a poor poooor source of information. You also misread what I wrote. I said that you believe these sources not that you claim these sources . So please read before you jump to conclusions. As far as your sources go you must of misread on espn or nfl network because they were all high on Dez. The only person that I know of that was not was Pat Kirwin. Anyways you don't even have to take my word on Dez. If you go to scout.com to the Oklahoma State forum they have a topic from a Denver fan concerning about the Dez situation. On there you will have die hard OSU fans where many are close to the situation with Dez. Almost every single person on there said that Dez was a standup guy before the NCAA incident. Everyone considers a well mannered humble kid. We are not trying to argue if Dallas will or will not draft Dez or even if they like Dez. I want to know if you have interviewed Dez before or even had time to get to know the guy? If you know something personally as to what the Dallas Organization have said then please by all means share their thoughts. But if you don't have anything but rumors then you might as well save your breath.
So you are correct on every player in the draft?? You must be a cowboy legend. How come your not one of the cowboy greats?? The reason is because you are only die hard cowboys fan just like any one else on this board. Oh by the way don't be so arrogant because people don't like arrogant people.
First place, sounds like your the one that is arrogant. Even one person on this board proved to you that a player told him that was on the same team as dez at college that he was drunk at practice. Yet, you continually say no proof. You need to learn to read between the lines.
Just like dmoore said I think his suspension is proof enough he needs to grow up. There was an article in this month's ESPN the mag about Deion Sanders, and it's not entirely clear what he's up to. He seriously hurt his team by not being honest to the NCAA. That OK State team could have competed for a big 12 title. If I'm a GM, I'm putting a lot of weight into his interviews.
Again, i pointed out to you that dez or even deion sanders should have gotten with dez and had him in shape to run, stay in shape for the combine. Or get the Florida guys that train players to run and improve their speed. Yet, Dez was overweight and couldnt run. Had to put his pro day back 5 more days.
These are all red flags. As far as my sources, when you are told something, you cant say who said it or how to a degree, but you can share info of what they said or hinted too. There has been numberous times that i have been told private information that was dallas cowboys breaking news, but I was told not to tell, which i did not. I have never lied, never will. I share dallas cowboys info with you zoners.
One of the media writers that I talk to, has told me, that I give him info on the cowboys through my sources even before he gets info from dallas morning news or espn. Sure, sometimes I am wrong, wont be the first time, and wont be the last, but more times then enough, I am right.
Like I told you, I have talked to Tex Schramn, Gil Brandt, Alicia Landry, John Wooten all pro offensive guard and representative for the cowboys, Jerry Jones, 67 Dallas Cowboys players through the years, and others. I dont have the sources that Hostile or some others have, but I do have some dallas cowboys sources.
As far as Dez, why hasnt he fully disclosed the interview with Deion Sanders, has he something to hide? Bryant was ruled ineligible for the rest of the 2009 season on October 7 for violating an NCAA bylaw.
He failed to fully disclose his interaction with Deion Sanders, a former NFL player, to the NCAA Another red flag.
On top of that, you continue to miss my biggest point about Dez or any player that the cowboys draft. Red Flags! You as a owner, general manager, head scout have to be accountable when you draft a player and he doesnt work out. Just like parcells had to be accountable for drafting Jacob Rogers when the Cowboys scouts told him not to draft him, but he did. Do you even realize who we could have drafted instead of Jacob Rogers? Do you have any idea? A darn better player than Jacob Rogers ever was, even i was screaming when we drafted Rogers, but we could have gotten Max Starks, a lot better player or even Sean Jones safety.
Evidently when you said High School back to me, evidently you dont know about NFL drafting. Do you know why we didnt draft shawn merriman? Do you know why? Parcells called his high school coach and talked to him about Merriman, then we switched to Ware by drafting him. Evidently you dont know, but scouts, very good pro teams like the patriots even check your full background, way back to your high school days, some teams even go back to your junior high.
Do you even know why we came to draft Emmitt Smith, do you even know what players we wanted to draft instead of Emmitt. Do you know who stood up for Emmitt, talking about his high school days and scoring. Who was it? Dont look it up, tell me!
Do you know who also said why they drafted Emmitt finally because of his scoring and yardage in college and high school. What person on the dallas cowboys now, said that. I gave you an easy question there, even you should be able to figure that one out. Do you know, how we even came to draft Emmitt, dont look it up tell me, how did we draft Emmitt.
Was it with our own draft choices, did we trade up or down, what?
Do you know how high Dez was ranked coming out of high school for the state of texas? Dont look it up, tell me.
Here is some more you may not be aware of;
Reports by independent investigators at the NFL combine showed that Bryant is late for meetings, practices and games. He also left the combine early. Gambling experts revealed that Bryant did poorly in interviews and alienated teams.
http://www.nflgambling.org/nfl-gambling/nfl-gambling-dez-bryant-hurts-his-cause-nfl-draft/13
Was the NCAA unfair to Dez for what he did, yes, but you have to be fair and honest too.
I have pulled for Dez ever since he was here in Lufkin playing for the panthers.
But bottom line, I want a player that can play for us for 10 to 12 years, be an impact player and not get into trouble. Even you if you were the general manager has to be honest and say, the red flags scare you, so your going to look into it further. Why do you think the Cowboys interviewed Dez real early? And Dez was one of the first 3 players they interviewed? Because they thought he might fall some. So, they have to do their homework on Dez.
And didnt i say this wasnt all Dez's fault, some of it was at the doorsteps of Coach Outlaw for letting hiim get away with things, so when he hit college, he still thought he could get away with things.
Havent I said all along that I hope Dez grows up, gets his life straight? But you have to hit on that number one draft choice or even if you trade down, you have to hit on those first 2 to 3 draft choices. Otherwise you set your team back.
NFL teams whether you realize it or not, are built through the draft primarly, now and then you can get some free agents that can help you or make trades, but the life blood of teams is through the draft, you have to hit on that first round draft choice.
Do you even know why we were dominant for so many years in the 70s and 80s? We made trades for players like Too Tall Jones, Randy White, and Tony Dorsett, dont look it up, tell me. Who were the players that we traded for to get those draft picks to select too tall, randy white and dorsett. I sure know, lets see if you know.
Do you know what player Tom Landry said he made a mistake on and should have drafted instead of craig morton? We all make mistakes, even I do too,but you have to learn from your mistakes and show steps that your growing as a person, or you will repeat those mistakes.
Just like I tried to tell you, I would be glad to eat crow, if Dez gets drafted by us,and what i said makes him stand up as a players and person to prove me wrong. Again, in life, sometimes you have to challenge players. It happens in life, happened with my dad, when he cut his hand off in a corn picker and one of my uncles told him, blankety blank he couldnt do nothing, poor baby, etc... Made my dad mad, and determined, he couldnt hardly drive that tractor the first day, but next couple of days, my dad was driving that tractor better then my uncle.
Bottom line, I view myself when i do my mocks, draft, etc, share info with cowboys zoners, that I am like a general manager, you have to be sure when you draft, you always take the best player available. You cant let your pride get in the way, or whatever, like when a certain NFL team wanted to trade for erik williams, they were willing to offer a 2nd round draft choice, but jerry jones wanted a number one draft choice. Or even when randy moss got drafted, did you know we were offered 2 number one draft choices to trade down, but jerry jones wanted more, so trade wasnt finalized, but we could have had possibly greg ellis and randy moss in that draft in 98?
Have i been wrong on players, yes, even one of the players that I sent info to the cowboys and they drafted didnt do well. His brother was in drugs and got him mixed up in drugs after the draft etc...
Some of the players that i sent the cowboys info on, they have drafted and turned out well, or decent.
I never said i was perfect, but sure sounds like you think you are. That you couldnt be a tad wrong about Dez. Again, bottom line, you have to be sure, with that number one draft choice, or like when jerry jones with larry lacewell (who i cant stand- i could tell you some stories about him & jerry but I wont its pretty bad) but when jerry drafted Quincy Carter, dwyane goodrich, kareem larrimore, etc... jerry had to answer for those poor drafts that parcells had to fix, even parcells got rid of larry lacewell when he came aboard, but jerry jones has lacewell back now.
