Hmm--Interesting stat

[Jarv]

You're right - you see a lot of geniuses wanting BP to be fired but not a one of them have an answer with respect to his replacement.

Well, at most we have 2 years to figure this out.

 

[lspain1]

The Seahawks game announcers just pointing out that Holmgren is in the SEVENTH year of his contract with the Seahawks. And last week was their first playoff win ever.

(What an idiot that owner--he should have dumped Holmgren long ago, right?)

I am going to make an unpopular point here. The organization that currently is making the best coaching decisions (and setting itself up for long term success) is the Washington Commanders. The contract with Willams followed up by getting Saunders is part of a series of moves that confirm that Snyder 'gets it.' He, along with Gibbs, has brought in excellent coaching staff and is bringing both discipline and continuity at the same time. I have been impressed with the Commander's ability to avoid problems with the cap and their organization seems to improve every year.

While I like Parcells, we had better be making similar types of moves to get ready for the time that is coming fairly soon (A.P. - After Parcells). To bring this all together...both Cowher and Holmgren got into trouble at points in their tenures. But management of those teams saw that their overall ability was worth retaining even when problems arose.

Tenure works, but management must be vigilant about the performance of the Head Coach and what that individual needs to succeed. The NFL has gone overboard today with firing head coaches but let me ask a question...Would you have kept a respected guy like Dom Capers given the performance of his team (and the Texans organization)? I think both Holmgren and Cowher achieved the level of success necessary to ensure they got enough time to get the players and staff necessary to succeed. A coach needs to have enough initial success to buy himself more time. Many new minted NFL coaches don't get that time and do not have enough of an organization around them to succeed.

 

[wileedog]

I am going to make an unpopular point here. The organization that currently is making the best coaching decisions (and setting itself up for long term success) is the Washington Commanders. The contract with Willams followed up by getting Saunders is part of a series of moves that confirm that Snyder 'gets it.' He, along with Gibbs, has brought in excellent coaching staff and is bringing both discipline and continuity at the same time. I have been impressed with the Commander's ability to avoid problems with the cap and their organization seems to improve every year.

The same Williams that was run out of Buffalo as a head coach, going 17-31 over three seasons?

The same Saunders who has been in the league how long now without ever getting a HC gig? In fact he's so talented that despite the pleas from legend Dick Vermiel that Saunders get the job the Chiefs decided to trade a 4th round pick for Herm Edwards instead?

Color me not that impressed with Snyder throwing $14M at these two.

 

[Chuck 54]

The basis of this entire argument is flawed. One knows crap when one steps in it. It does not require 7 years to determine that it's time to clean one's shoes.

By this argument, Chan Gailey, Barry Switzer, and Dave Campo were all run out of Dallas way too soon because they weren't given time to turn things around. I don't think so.

I'm not saying Parcells is crap...I'm not saying he's Dave Campo. Although I've always hated the sight of the fat bastid and hate having him on the Dallas sidelines, I do recognize that he was once a good coach. I do believe he did a lousy job with personel his first two years and that the last draft was his first good one with Dallas. I also don't see us even sniffing a SB until he leaves...I believe he'll leave us a deeper, more disciplined team, but that a younger, more energetic and innovative coach will get us over the hump.

However, I will argue that the 7 year plan is NOT what Parcells was hired for, nor is it what should be expected. If he is indeed the greatest thing since sliced bread and the greatest coach since Tom Landry, then the Dallas Cowboys should be a serious contender after 4 years. 4 years of FA, plenty of draft picks, coaching, and philosophy from a HOF coach should be enough to finish at least 2nd in the NFC East and be a serious contender, and I don't mean a contender for the 6th playoff spot.

If the Cowboys miss the playoffs again next year, or don't at least show up and give a great effort to be admired in their playoff game, then I don't want to hear any more crap about Parcells, and I think any fan will have the right to call for a different coach, whether the owner goes that route or not.

 

[jackrussell]

There's a big freakin' difference between taking 7 years to get the Seahawks into the playoffs versus the Dallas Cowboys....or there should be.

Yes there is...and it took Bill one year.

 

[CF74]

We need to change our coaching staff as often as we change our underwear to stay competitive

 

[Hostile]

Yes there is...and it took Bill one year.

In year 1 we were where the Seahawks are now?

Link? I must have slept right through it.

 

[Chief]

The basis of this entire argument is flawed. One knows crap when one steps in it. It does not require 7 years to determine that it's time to clean one's shoes.

By this argument, Chan Gailey, Barry Switzer, and Dave Campo were all run out of Dallas way too soon because they weren't given time to turn things around. I don't think so.

I'm not saying Parcells is crap...I'm not saying he's Dave Campo. Although I've always hated the sight of the fat bastid and hate having him on the Dallas sidelines, I do recognize that he was once a good coach. I do believe he did a lousy job with personel his first two years and that the last draft was his first good one with Dallas. I also don't see us even sniffing a SB until he leaves...I believe he'll leave us a deeper, more disciplined team, but that a younger, more energetic and innovative coach will get us over the hump.

However, I will argue that the 7 year plan is NOT what Parcells was hired for, nor is it what should be expected. If he is indeed the greatest thing since sliced bread and the greatest coach since Tom Landry, then the Dallas Cowboys should be a serious contender after 4 years. 4 years of FA, plenty of draft picks, coaching, and philosophy from a HOF coach should be enough to finish at least 2nd in the NFC East and be a serious contender, and I don't mean a contender for the 6th playoff spot.

If the Cowboys miss the playoffs again next year, or don't at least show up and give a great effort to be admired in their playoff game, then I don't want to hear any more crap about Parcells, and I think any fan will have the right to call for a different coach, whether the owner goes that route or not.

Well said, Wayne.

 

[trickblue]

The same Williams that was run out of Buffalo as a head coach, going 17-31 over three seasons?

The same Saunders who has been in the league how long now without ever getting a HC gig? In fact he's so talented that despite the pleas from legend Dick Vermiel that Saunders get the job the Chiefs decided to trade a 4th round pick for Herm Edwards instead?

Color me not that impressed with Snyder throwing $14M at these two.

Actually Saunders had a stint as HC of San Diego, and he was less than impressive...

I agree that the jury is still out on these coaching sigings by Lil' Danny...

Bugel, Saunders, Williams and Gibbs were all HC either now or at one time. Egos are going to have to be checked at the door for this to work IMO...