News: Homeless ex-Cowboy reportedly is man victimized in shocking brawl

Califan007

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In case this wasn't mentioned as part of his backstory...about his alleged "hate crime" in San Francisco:

"Brymer was accused of threatening Henry Therkield in a soup kitchen at Mission Rock and 3rd Street on July 19. According to prosecutors, he then attacked Therkield's friend, Shaun Parker, outside the soup kitchen, saying, "Die, ******, die." Brymer was also charged with assaulting Parker the next day at a Muni stop in Mission Bay.

However, Muni surveillance videos presented at trial showed that Brymer and Parker had not interacted with each other at the Mission Bay tram stop. Therkield, when interviewed by SF Weekly, also recanted the story he had initially told the police, saying that Brymer had never threatened him. In a subsequent interview, he said Parker had told him to lie about the use of racial epithets in the hope of some form of compensation from the district attorney's office."
 
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They blame everything on CTE..... Ridiculous

Can you give an example where it was given as cause and been shown to be wrong. It seems most of them have it because the policy was to waive smelling salts under the nose and send them back out there through the 80s into the 90s.
 

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Can you give an example where it was given as cause and been shown to be wrong. It seems most of them have it because the policy was to waive smelling salts under the nose and send them back out there through the 80s into the 90s.
I don't think it's been studied nearly enough. Anyone who played football and behaves erratically must have CTE. It's being used to attack the NFL. You never hear about the soccer player with CTE
 

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I don't think it's been studied nearly enough. Anyone who played football and behaves erratically must have CTE. It's being used to attack the NFL. You never hear about the soccer player with CTE

The mechanics of CTE is explained. Getting a head injury and then returning to injure it again is cause. You don't hear about it in soccer because soccer while brutal in its own fashion does not have the same head injuries that football does. The power running game is what it is.

Ignorance of the complete picture is not an excuse for inaction. Of course it's being used to prosecute the NFL. They knew of CTE and what was happening yet continued to use the smelling salt routine. They should be held liable.

NFL is just a legal trust. The sport and the franchises aren't going anywhere. They should take care of their workers and accept responsibility because of the power and authority that they have. I love the sport and my team but I don't have much sympathy for the oligarchs who get to own it.
 

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My oldest son is mentally ill, so I find no humor in this at all. He's getting help now, and I am happy about that. I fear he will be on the streets in the future. It is difficult to talk to him, because he is delusional and says insane things, like he has travelled to all these other dimensions and worlds. He is dead serious when he says it. Wish Brymer knocked all of them cold. That was just plain wrong to be picking on a homeless man.

I also don't like the racist view I've seen on the internet taking place on this story.

Thanks for sharing your personal story. Maybe in reading this someone will think about things from a different perspective. Our society has spent way too much energy pretending we are all born equal and anything that happens to a person is their own fault. It's the "personal responsibility " people that are actually scared and insecure about not having 100% control over their situation and future.

My brother also suffered from mental illness. Like your son he would have manic episodes where he was 100% convinced of some extremely bizarre things. You could never convince him that it wasn't true. Even trying to would just cause more bizarre thinking. Unfortunate he passed away not too long ago...I watch old home movies and look at pictures of when we were both children together and realize how you can't know how things will turn out for anyone. We are all as vulnerable as the next person.

I hope everything works out for your Son.
 

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I don't care whether a person contributed to his own sad affair in life or not, I can't rejoice nor take glee in the tragic down fall of others.

The situation speaks for itself. I don't need to take extra pleasure in it.

Besides, if we were born in a different family, a different environment, a different time, etc., we could and would be in the same situation.
 

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Thanks for sharing your personal story. Maybe in reading this someone will think about things from a different perspective. Our society has spent way too much energy pretending we are all born equal and anything that happens to a person is their own fault. It's the "personal responsibility " people that are actually scared and insecure about not having 100% control over their situation and future.

My brother also suffered from mental illness. Like your son he would have manic episodes where he was 100% convinced of some extremely bizarre things. You could never convince him that it wasn't true. Even trying to would just cause more bizarre thinking. Unfortunate he passed away not too long ago...I watch old home movies and look at pictures of when we were both children together and realize how you can't know how things will turn out for anyone. We are all as vulnerable as the next person.

I hope everything works out for your Son.

My youngest son is high-functioning autistic, and I can easily see him in a similar situation, though I hope/pray he is never there.

I remember before I understood/personal experienced autism, I would see a kid in a grocery store cutting up in the form of crying spells and tantrums and think, "His mom needs to whip his tail."

Until ... I had a child with autism. Then I learned that because autistic children have difficulty communicating, they are prone to meltdowns in public.

And when I experienced this with my own son, I understood what another parent might have been going through and became less judgmental.

It's easy for people who aren't in the same situation to tell others what they need to do in that situation.

Yes, you can still have your preconceived ideas and notions (and, some children may not have autism and may just be brats who need discipline), but even then, you still need to show compassion and mercy to others.
 

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My youngest son is high-functioning autistic, and I can easily see him in a similar situation, though I hope/pray he is never there.

I remember before I understood/personal experienced autism, I would see a kid in a grocery store cutting up in the form of crying spells and tantrums and think, "His mom needs to whip his tail."

Until ... I had a child with autism. Then I learned that because autistic children have difficulty communicating, they are prone to meltdowns in public.

And when I experienced this with my own son, I understood what another parent might have been going through and became less judgmental.

It's easy for people who aren't in the same situation to tell others what they need to do in that situation.

Yes, you can still have your preconceived ideas and notions (and, some children may not have autism and may just be brats who need discipline), but even then, you still need to show compassion and mercy to others.

Hey Tyke,
Feel ya in that I have a daughter in the same spectrum. Wearing those shoes brings a great deal of perspective, humbleness and definitely grace.
Keep the hope/faith!!
 

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Dude's probably mentally ill, spouted some racist nonsense, and these low-IQ ding dongs took it as an opportunity to effect some brutal power over someone in their sad lives. Terrible all around. Sad. Heartbreaking.

Or maybe these punks just like to victimize the meek and powerless. Except this victim was not so powerless. The guy in the gloves got his comeuppance but the other guys still need to get theirs IMO. That kid in the white T needs a life lesson. And Brymer almost taught it to him, fortunately for him the video producer talked him to safety.

I hope Brymer is at least physically safe. Do not trust these guys after the filming stopped.
 

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Former NFL players can have real issues post-career. The mental and health issues associated with even a shirt stint can have devastating consequences.

In all likelihood these guys have been playing competitively since they were 12. They were always one of the best at each level and played significant roles for their teams, got a lot of attention from their opponents.

The competitive spirit that makes them great becomes a detriment when it comes to retiring and making decisions based on a healthy future.

Combine these issues with two other serious problems:

In far too many cases an NFL career is a story to Rags to Riches Back to Rags. 70% of NFL players are broke 2 years after their career ends. By the way, an average NFL career lasts three and a half years.

All NFL players are guys that had a high level od success in College. The vast majority had fantastic success in High School. Therefore almost every NFL player, drafted or undrafted represent the cream of the cream when it comes to football.

Almostvall their lives, they have been treated special, told they are special. Its no wonder they believe that they are destined for greatness, and the fortune that comes with it.

For many, it's their ticket out of their troubles circumstances that may include poverty, parental strife, and high potential for crime.

However, far too many fall into the trap of believing their football career will produce enough wealth to sustain them forever. They opt out of the education opportunity that comes with going to college. They have been valuable starters every other phase of their life and expect the same results in the NFL.

But if there are a billion guys out there and and you are considered "one in a million kind of guy", there are still a thousand guys just like you. In other words, almost every other NFL player has the same profile of success at previous levels...but there can be only so many starters.

So they leave football and what do most of them have? A million dollar portfolio? Perhaps the top 10%. A college education? That becomes leas and less likely. Typically they have a few resources to last a few years and then it's "the Fall". You were always the special guy now you are just another guy.

The fame and fortune just comes to quick at an age where you may lack the experience and advice. They have been accustomed to a certain lifestyle and may have extreme difficulty in adjusting which is why its not unusual to read about drug dealing, theft, and domestic violence from former players.

Then when you add in the physical and mental health problems you get some sad and unfortunate stories like this one.

There is a solution, but nobody, not even the players want to go down the road that must be taken.
 

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Former NFL players can have real issues post-career. The mental and health issues associated with even a shirt stint can have devastating consequences.

In all likelihood these guys have been playing competitively since they were 12. They were always one of the best at each level and played significant roles for their teams, got a lot of attention from their opponents.

The competitive spirit that makes them great becomes a detriment when it comes to retiring and making decisions based on a healthy future.

Combine these issues with two other serious problems:

In far too many cases an NFL career is a story to Rags to Riches Back to Rags. 70% of NFL players are broke 2 years after their career ends. By the way, an average NFL career lasts three and a half years.

All NFL players are guys that had a high level od success in College. The vast majority had fantastic success in High School. Therefore almost every NFL player, drafted or undrafted represent the cream of the cream when it comes to football.

Almostvall their lives, they have been treated special, told they are special. Its no wonder they believe that they are destined for greatness, and the fortune that comes with it.

For many, it's their ticket out of their troubles circumstances that may include poverty, parental strife, and high potential for crime.

However, far too many fall into the trap of believing their football career will produce enough wealth to sustain them forever. They opt out of the education opportunity that comes with going to college. They have been valuable starters every other phase of their life and expect the same results in the NFL.

But if there are a billion guys out there and and you are considered "one in a million kind of guy", there are still a thousand guys just like you. In other words, almost every other NFL player has the same profile of success at previous levels...but there can be only so many starters.

So they leave football and what do most of them have? A million dollar portfolio? Perhaps the top 10%. A college education? That becomes leas and less likely. Typically they have a few resources to last a few years and then it's "the Fall". You were always the special guy now you are just another guy.

The fame and fortune just comes to quick at an age where you may lack the experience and advice. They have been accustomed to a certain lifestyle and may have extreme difficulty in adjusting which is why its not unusual to read about drug dealing, theft, and domestic violence from former players.

Then when you add in the physical and mental health problems you get some sad and unfortunate stories like this one.

There is a solution, but nobody, not even the players want to go down the road that must be taken.

A very good comment...

Character is still an important part of life. Sportsmanship is an important part of football. It is what develops a sense of right and wrong, in tough competition. The background is what also pushes a lot of people to serve their country, and not just be someone who wishes to go into the bush and kill. That quality is character...not fame.

Our High Schools aren't doing their jobs, if they don't set the road to build future role models...not just celebrities. Not only that, but empowered to bend rules to get louder praise.

I like what Jason Garrett brings to the table, on just these issues.

I also appreciate that Jerry Jones has highlighted just these aspects in his organization. I also am thankful that he is not afraid to go into the real world of 'mistakes' and try to leave a mark on the threshold of respect and making role models.

One can also look at the Cowboys who have made it into the very top of the professional ranks, and see a uniformity of humbleness.

To this fan, that is what sportsmanship is all about...and worth the journey and prices paid.

Thank you Jerry Jones...you were a real man, with insights, and love for the sport and his players.
 

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Thanks, humour police. Please just give me a warning.

Humor. It's a funny thing. One person might find a certain thing funny while 35K others are like WT.......

I feel like you are being warned by people who are trying to tell you this is not funny.
 

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Lots of people never realize how real other peoples problems are. The actual things that they do may seem idiotic, but a large part of the time there is a real psychological issue that they deal with that a lot or regular people deal with, that has become more severe for them. Its why I don't "laugh" at Manziel and his antics, or just blindly call Randy Gregory a "moron". You don't know what they are dealing with.

Youre exactly right. But if Gregory has such problems that he cant realize the opportunity he has.....................then the Cowboys are in trouble with that pick.
 
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