Honest Question about Henson versus Romo

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Seeing as besides preaseason games and a .5 game by Henson, neither have played in 3 or more years...I think some teams would simply pass on both. I would take Henson simplay on potential. It's just frustrating that niether of these guys are getting to play. They should BOTH go to NFLE.
 

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jimmy40 said:
who really believes that? Romo wasn't drafted, has never played a down, and the Jets needed a starter, makes no sense whatsover.
The Jets were gonna be playing Bollinger so it does make sense.
They also were in a position to test a guy out and risking only a 3rd it would have been a good test for Romo.

I dont see how folks can dismiss a news report. Not some profootballtalk blurb but something by an actual reporter.
 

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Neither player is worth the roster spot.

What a waste of bandwidth to advance an agenda.
 

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jterrell said:
The Jets were gonna be playing Bollinger so it does make sense.
They also were in a position to test a guy out and risking only a 3rd it would have been a good test for Romo.

I dont see how folks can dismiss a news report. Not some profootballtalk blurb but something by an actual reporter.

If it was Henson it would have been believable. ;)
 

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jterrell said:
The Jets were gonna be playing Bollinger so it does make sense.
They also were in a position to test a guy out and risking only a 3rd it would have been a good test for Romo.

I dont see how folks can dismiss a news report. Not some profootballtalk blurb but something by an actual reporter.
no it doesn't. a third for a guy that hasn't played a down that Dallas got for free? a 6th or 7th MAYBE.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
If it was Henson it would have been believable. ;)

Actually your right, since Dallas DID give a 3rd for Henson and he, whether you agree with it or not, has clearly been touted more than Tony Romo.
 

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Romo has looked much better in the preseason not sure if that means a whole lot but I think he has alot of potential. He reminds me a bit of a younger Steve Young, hes needs to improve his accuracy if he is going to take it to the next level.
 

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If the Jets offered a third(which I highly doubt) then BP and Jerry would be fools to turn it down since Romo and Henson will never see the field as long as BP has Bledsoe. Sad but true. :bang2:
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
Neither player is worth the roster spot.

What a waste of bandwidth to advance an agenda.

If by agenda you mean some hidden motive, I have already clearly stated my "agenda". I believe that Bill Parcells goes against the conventional wisdom on this one, and I think most fans instinctively know this. I really think any thoughtful process would have most people admitting that Henson would be taken before Romo by most NFL teams, which begs the question why Bill Parcells does what he does? Is it because he is a QB guru? Or is Romo his personal project at this point? I believe the latter and have no problem admitting so. So, no HIDDEN agenda here, just an honest question and asking you to give an HONEST opinion on it, not just make this a popularity vote. What do you HONESTLY think most NFL teams would do if presented with choosing one or the other at this point?
 

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rcaldw said:
Or is Romo his personal project at this point?

Maybe its me but in my opinion Romo has out played Henson hands down, that is why he is the number 2 QB. I think fans are the ones with the agenda everyone wants Henson to be the guy so badly that they arent looking at it objectively.
 

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Maybe its me but in my opinion Romo has out played Henson hands down, that is why he is the number 2 QB. I think fans are the ones with the agenda everyone wants Henson to be the guy so badly that they arent looking at it objectively.

Is it that? That is why I asked this question. Not what does one half of Cowboys fandom think, or the other half, but if we are being honest with ourselves, what do you think most NFL teams would do if the two were offered right now? Who would most NFL gm's take?

Do you really believe they would take Tony Romo and leave Henson on the table? I don't think so for a moment.
 

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Going by your question, Henson would be the one.

He was drafted even though it was not a sure thing he would ever play and then was worth a 3rd.

There is no body of work to really judge Romo by other than he is # 2 on the depth chart and has more time in.

The fact he is #2 on depth could be misleading, How many times have we seen the # 3 move to starter(such as philadelphia this year)

Unlike some here I am fairly comfortable with our QB's ;)
 

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rcaldw said:
If by agenda you mean some hidden motive, I have already clearly stated my "agenda". I believe that Bill Parcells goes against the conventional wisdom on this one, and I think most fans instinctively know this. I really think any thoughtful process would have most people admitting that Henson would be taken before Romo by most NFL teams, which begs the question why Bill Parcells does what he does? Is it because he is a QB guru? Or is Romo his personal project at this point? I believe the latter and have no problem admitting so. So, no HIDDEN agenda here, just an honest question and asking you to give an HONEST opinion on it, not just make this a popularity vote. What do you HONESTLY think most NFL teams would do if presented with choosing one or the other at this point?

What is dismissed in your Grassy Knoll theory is that teams take players all the time in free agency only to find out they have erred. The billing was much more impressive than the results when the player showed up.

You only need look at Rivera to see this as a fact. He was this all-world player who anchored the line which protected Favre. And yet his play this season suggests nothing in comparison to the comments and reputation which preceded him.

So when you make a comment that most teams would take Henson, that brings up two distinct points. Maybe three.

1. That you seem to know something others don't. And since Parcells controls the information on this team moreso than the US Government controls the nuclear launch codes to our ICBM's, I'd say agenda was not only a well placed definition, but :hammer:

2. That teams use this common knowledge/reputation as a gauge when they select free agents. And if stats reveal anything about this, the free agent market tends to be more famine than feast.

3. That you have a pony in this race and thus it causes you to make bold and unsubstatiated assertions that Parcells is holding Henson back. That this is common knowledge amongst fans. And that Parcells has some grudge against this player and players of this type.

But what is real about this is that you only surmise you know what is going on. You surmise that the majority of fans believe this. That you surmise Henson has more talent. And that you surmise the league would take either player, or one over the other.

They are both back-ups who should be thankful of their jobs. They get paid to do something they like and run NO risk of ever really being forced to show they are not NFL talent.

Henson does not impress a sure first ballot Hall-of-Fame coach. So any conspiracy theory about Henson is interesting, but hardly late breaking news since it is conjecture on your part with a great chasm between what is most likely the truth and what you perceive.

Your continued discussion of this issue signals that you have something more than a passing fancy on this subject.

Something more in line with Nors passing fancy of Al Singleton and the 3-4 defense.

Bledsoe was brought in because of several reasons, in my opinion.

1. The team needed a competent quarterback. Parcells was not going one more season with the Quincy/Testaverde type players.

2. That he surveyed the landscape and decided the answer to the quarterback issue was not on the team.

3. That he would risk winning by bringing in a player who can make all the throws, but also has left something on the table in late seasons runs. And this is over the talent he had on the team when he made this decision.

4. That Henson has slipped to third because he has not performed.

I asked you in another thread to post the irrefutable evidence that Henson has this supposed talent which is being hidden under a bushel basket of Bill Parcells making.

Your response was to say you see it and you would not discuss this any further because it is wasting your time.

Yet you start another thread on this subject.

I ask you again.

Please post the immutable evidence that Henson can play in this league with any competency.
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
Please post the immutable evidence that Henson can play in this league with any competency.

How can anyone say, one way or the other, that Henson can play with any competency given the amount of PT the guy has had.

I'm not taking one side or the other. I find it impossible to so.
 

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Because Sarge, he plays in practice in front of a guy that has more football knowledge than the entire Cowboy's fan base combined.

We all have our favorites.

Yet when we see guys sit the bench, we understand they are doing so because they have little worth in the grand scheme.

Unless....

The player is the quarterback and much younger than the starter, and the team is not in the hunt for the Super Bowl.

We all want the next franchise quarterback. Especially when NY hasManning, who will one day figure out his team wears blue.

Thus a questionable talent in any other position is elevated to soime mythic stature and conspiracies are started because, darn it this guy is a player and that crusty coach is being stubborn.

Sorry, Henson can't crack the top two because he can't crack the top two.

And to further mire his abilities, the guy right in front of him is an undrafted player who is small and has a questionable arm.

If I wake from a winter slumber and find the ground covered with snow, I can assume it snowed during the night.

Likewise if the kid sits behind a guy that wouldn't be on most squads in the league, there has to be something other than Professor Plum in the Library with the wrench.
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
Because Sarge, he plays in practice in front of a guy that has more football knowledge than the entire Cowboy's fan base combined.

We all have our favorites.

Yet when we see guys sit the bench, we understand they are doing so because they have little worth in the grand scheme.

Unless....

The player is the quarterback and much younger than the starter, and the team is not in the hunt for the Super Bowl.

We all want the next franchise quarterback. Especially when NY hasManning, who will one day figure out his team wears blue.

Thus a questionable talent in any other position is elevated to soime mythic stature and conspiracies are started because, darn it this guy is a player and that crusty coach is being stubborn.

Sorry, Henson can't crack the top two because he can't crack the top two.

And to further mire his abilities, the guy right in front of him is an undrafted player who is small and has a questionable arm.

If I wake from a winter slumber and find the ground covered with snow, I can assume it snowed during the night.

Likewise if the kid sits behind a guy that wouldn't be on most squads in the league, there has to be something other than Professor Plum in the Library with the wrench.

Here is why I like Henson better. Yes, of course BP knows more than I do. However, Romo being #2 on the depth chart only says that today Romo is more ready than Henson. It does not mean that next year Romo will be.

Therein lies the problem. I, and according to what you said I gather you believe Henson to have better NFL tools than Romo as well.

And to further mire his abilities, the guy right in front of him is an undrafted player who is small and has a questionable arm.

I think with some luck, Henson has the tools to be an NFL franchise QB. I dont believe Romo has the tools to ever amount to much, regardless of who is better today.
 

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My problem is, the team tried to change the throwing motion of Henson.

If he had all this talent, then why would they try to alter his mechanics?

And he is entering his third season with this team and may have to trundle off to Europe.

That is like an NFL owner stating he has full confidence in his coach who just went 1-15 for two straight seasons.

It's just a matter of time before we take the hit on Henson's third round pick, and all these NFL teams who are lusting for him can have him for free.

My opinion.
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
My problem is, the team tried to change the throwing motion of Henson.

If he had all this talent, then why would they try to alter his mechanics?

And he is entering his third season with this team and may have to trundle off to Europe.

That is like an NFL owner stating he has full confidence in his coach who just went 1-15 for two straight seasons.

It's just a matter of time before we take the hit on Henson's third round pick, and all these NFL teams who are lusting for him can have him for free.

My opinion.

You may very well be right about that. You make some excellent points. Just me, If choosing only between Romo or Henson, I would roll the dice on Henson.

I would rather have someone else, but as of right now we don't. I have read your posts long enough TwoDeep to know that you value the position of QB as much as anyone. You know until we nail that down, Dallas will be hit and miss every year, but mainly miss.
 

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You may very well be right about that. You make some excellent points. Just me, If choosing only between Romo or Henson, I would roll the dice on Henson.

I would rather have someone else, but as of right now we don't. I have read your posts long enough TwoDeep to know that you value the position of QB as much as anyone. You know until we nail that down, Dallas will be hit and miss every year, but mainly miss.

I agree.I think Henson hasmore"tools"than Romo.

But I am not certain either has the other intangibles toplay in this league.

And that,in my opinion, is what Parcells sees.
 
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