How badly did we mess up the RB situation?

[plasticman]

Letting go of Murray was possibly one of the most devastating decisions in Cowboy history.

"We are #9 in running the ball." Big freakin' deal when you consider the Cowboy running game packs it in as the 1st quarter winds down.

Murray's contribution was far more significant than just the stats.

He brought attitude.
He brought confidence, particularly to a young impressionable offensive line.
He brought swagger.
He was getting the important yards in the most critical times of the game.

The Cowboys are ranked 25th in the league in the 2nd half, average yards per carry this season. less than 3.4. Again, If games were a quarter long our RB's would be Hall of Famers.

Last season, they were ranked 5th! Is there anybody that doesn't understand the significance of this stat?

And once and for all, Murray has a brain in his head, he has character, and he didn't choose the Eagles strictly based on salary, he would have played for less, but not for the insult he was offered.

I was ridiculed on other forums for my consistant stance that we had to have this guy, this was a completely different team without him.

\When Romo comes back.....open your eyes....look at the Cowboy offense even when Romo was in....4.5 points a quarter average....same as Weeden....

Murray was the Cowboys 3rd leading receiver over the previous 4 seasons.

Murray and the offensive line had something special going, they were ingredients to a perfect recipe....which was flushed down the toilet by the absurd belief that we had an historically elite O-line composed of a rookie, two 2nd year players a 4th year player and a former 6th round pick. Brilliant!

 

[Jenky]

Hey we signed Robert Turbin

 

[Wolfpack]

I think it would've been fine had Romo stayed healthy.

It's top 10 without him and we seem set on consistently running at defenses trying to take the run away.



I think 1 problem though was Will McClay and Co. believe that JAson Garrett knew how to operate a committee. He's proven time and time again that he has no feel how to keep 2 guys involved.

Or, other than last year, one guy.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Dallas messed up but they would still be 2-7 with murray. They'll draft one this offseason.

 

[CATCH17]

Letting go of Murray was possibly one of the most devastating decisions in Cowboy history.

"We are #9 in running the ball." Big freakin' deal when you consider the Cowboy running game packs it in as the 1st quarter winds down.

Murray's contribution was far more significant than just the stats.

He brought attitude.
He brought confidence, particularly to a young impressionable offensive line.
He brought swagger.
He was getting the important yards in the most critical times of the game.

The Cowboys are ranked 25th in the league in the 2nd half, average yards per carry this season. less than 3.4. Again, If games were a quarter long our RB's would be Hall of Famers.

Last season, they were ranked 5th! Is there anybody that doesn't understand the significance of this stat?

And once and for all, Murray has a brain in his head, he has character, and he didn't choose the Eagles strictly based on salary, he would have played for less, but not for the insult he was offered.

I was ridiculed on other forums for my consistant stance that we had to have this guy, this was a completely different team without him.

\When Romo comes back.....open your eyes....look at the Cowboy offense even when Romo was in....4.5 points a quarter average....same as Weeden....

Murray was the Cowboys 3rd leading receiver over the previous 4 seasons.

Murray and the offensive line had something special going, they were ingredients to a perfect recipe....which was flushed down the toilet by the absurd belief that we had an historically elite O-line composed of a rookie, two 2nd year players a 4th year player and a former 6th round pick. Brilliant!

This post seems like a fairy tale.

 

[Idgit]

We took too big a risk on an unstable player like Randle. Other than that, I don't think we messed up anything. RB has been very low on the list of problems with this team.

 

[hornitosmonster]

This post seems like a fairy tale.

One hit wonder, we have seen this fairy tale before.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Philly is ranked 10th.

Would be higher if Chip was able to admit his Murray mistake and name Ryan Mathews his starter.

Mathews - 75 carries/427 yards
Murray - 128 carries/ 451 yards

 

[tm1119]

Keeping Murray would only make the situation we are in look more bleak in my opinion. No way I'd want to be saddled with that contract going into next year.

 

[Alexander]

Dallas messed up but they would still be 2-7 with murray. They'll draft one this offseason.

Disagree. Not undefeated, but I think a consistent running game, not on and off, like we have seen since Romo went down, could have bought a victory or two. Now is that worth Murray's money he got, no. But not exactly the true point anyways. We miscalculated the RB situation almost as bad as the backup situation at QB. We got a little too big for our britches thinking the offense was just going to take care of itself and spent a lot of time and resources on the defense.

 

[Alexander]

Keeping Murray would only make the situation we are in look more bleak in my opinion. No way I'd want to be saddled with that contract going into next year.

We were saddled with Carr's idiotic contract coming into this season. How bleak was it then? Oh yes, I forgot, everyone thought he would get a pay cut or get released.

 

[CATCH17]

Disagree. Not undefeated, but I think a consistent running game, not on and off, like we have seen since Romo went down, could have bought a victory or two. Now is that worth Murray's money he got, no. But not exactly the true point anyways. We miscalculated the RB situation almost as bad as the backup situation at QB. We got a little too big for our britches thinking the offense was just going to take care of itself and spent a lot of time and resources on the defense.

It would take an Adrian Peterson for us to win with a ground game and Romo being out.


We've been ridiculously predictable and still have had some big rushing days and it's made no difference.

 

[DFWJC]

Murray now is not Murray last year.
That is almost always the case with any back who had that type of workload in one season.

I do think Murray would have done better than McFadden, but lets not get carried away with letting him go being "one of the worst decisions in franchise history".
Good grief.

Again...Murray probably would have been better and a 10x price tag.

But here are the stats so far this year

McFadden
493 yard...3.8 ypc

Murray
451 yards...3.5 ypc

and btw.
McFadden's numbers (at least ypc) are eventually going to go way up now that Romo is back.

 

[EST_1986]

The mistake was not signing Chris Johnson

 

[dcjules]

Where I think we messed up was not going for Peterson.

Had we acquired him I think he saves our season without Romo. He is truly a guy that can overcome having Garrett as a coach and no Romo on the field.


Anyone else available to us and I think we're still 0-7 without Romo.

Agree with acquiring Peterson....BUT the cost was supposedly way to high!!! No Byron or Randy G, maybe next year etc....tough call on that one

 

[Stash]

The mistake was not signing Chris Johnson

That was certainly one of them.

And you can look at several decisions and openly question them.

Not keeping Murray, or drawing a line in the sand in terms of money.

Making the choice to go with Randle as the heir apparent. Because, no matter how anyone wants to spin it after the fact, he was the guy that this team decided to go with as their starter. There's no erasing that. And that obviously failed as badly as anyone could have predicted.

Deciding to take their chances with two running backs in McFadden and Dunbar who have poor injury histories. Dunbar has already had his season-ending injury, and we're now crossing our fingers on McFadden.

The Christine Michael trade. Did they give up a lot? Certainly not, but they kept a guy they didn't like around long enough to lose that draft pick, didn't they? For a guy that they obviously didn't trust and didn't like. That's ripe for criticism.

And that doesn't take into consideration that they chose not to do anything about filling their need in the draft.

No matter how anyone would try to spin it, the handling of the running back position this year has been an epic failure.

 

[CATCH17]

The mistake was not signing Chris Johnson

Another guy that makes no difference without Romo.

 

[DFWJC]

Agree with acquiring Peterson....BUT the cost was supposedly way to high!!! No Byron or Randy G, maybe next year etc....tough call on that one

Not even sure there was a cost. He was under contract and was not available for trade...all else not openly.
All else was total rumor.
People just kept wanting it to be otherwise.

 

[Chuck 54]

Without Romo, Murray would not have made any difference in our W-L record.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Disagree. Not undefeated, but I think a consistent running game, not on and off, like we have seen since Romo went down, could have bought a victory or two. Now is that worth Murray's money he got, no. But not exactly the true point anyways. We miscalculated the RB situation almost as bad as the backup situation at QB. We got a little too big for our britches thinking the offense was just going to take care of itself and spent a lot of time and resources on the defense.

I don't think it would've mattered because the oline took steps back this year. Like most of the team.