How badly did we mess up the RB situation?

Craig

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How did you come to that conclusion?

By watching a running game play well considering the circumstances. Do you have multiple accounts? I could have sworn i already ignored you.
 

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A consistent running game certainly would have helped by not having to depend so much on the QB position to win games. If any QB needs help it's a backup.

Without the threat of a respectable passing game, how are you going to have a consistant running game? NFL defenses are not going let the Cowboys run on them.
 

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By watching a running game play well considering the circumstances. Do you have multiple accounts? I could have sworn i already ignored you.

The running game hasn't been consistent which is why Romo and the backup QBs were having to use the pass to backs as extended handoffs to give them some room out in space. I don't have multiple accounts you just can't get anything straight.
 

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So teams are able to completely shut us down by crowding the LOS. That is sad. We have a monster OL that can't hold off the rush long enough to beat one on ones across the field.

It is funny that whenever I watch the game it looks like every WR is double covered and no one is ever wide open. You would think that would happen more with press man coverage. It sure does happen to us a lot.

Agree, but its a double whammy. With Dez out, the other WRs are forced into roles they aren't ready for and they go against better DBs. They are also getting the ball from a QB that they haven't developed any timing with - which is everything for a guy like Beasley.

On top of that, IMO TWill has clearly taken a step backward this season.
 

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The defense hasn't given up a lot of points but they've given up a number of plays and some big plays that have cost us games including 2 OT games. Our D never gave our offense an opportunity with the ball in either OT period despite the rules giving teams a chance with the ball provided they don't give up a TD. On Sunday a costly defensive penalty gave Tampa a fresh set of downs inside our one yard line and they proceeded to win the game on the very next play. Heading into last week our defense had a league low of only 4 turnovers....EMBARRASSING! There's no rule that says your offense has to give your defense a big cushion.

Although the Cowboys offense has struggled due to their QB situation and the lack of a consistent running game they've given us the lead in 6 of the Cowboys 7 losses and the defense hasn't been able to protect those leads. The offense has done enough to give us leads but the defense hasn't been able to hold. Seattle would have never reached the heights they have if their defense couldn't make stops in tight games. It's not always about how many points you give up it's about making critical stops when games are on the line.

Some solid points and I agree with you on some . But , the point I was making is if we had our full offense in 3/4 of these games they would have probably been blowouts for us. The seattle , NO, TB, games . We probably would have beat the Giants and Philly too.
 

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Teams did similar things last year. We would get 4-5 yards, with Murray falling forward. This year we have tenative backs who get 2-3 yards. That changes the whole dynamic. The dirty yards concept Garrett kept talking about with Murray was not just chatter. It was something they learned to depend on and in the case of this year, forget what buttered the bread last year.

Is it why we have lost seven games straight? Of course not. But in these close games, it has mattered and cannot just be ignored while everyone throws it all into the "No Romo" bucket.

Its not all on Romo. Its on wrs and tes not getting open. Its the defense not creating turnovers and the defense wearing down.
 

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Ehhhmmm ya? Moore completely shut out Dez. TWill hasn't beaten single coverage for the majority of his career. How many catches does he even have this year? He's not an NFL receiver.

Yeah but dez got $70 million to beat 350k a year Moore.
 

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Without the threat of a respectable passing game, how are you going to have a consistant running game? NFL defenses are not going let the Cowboys run on them.

There's no rule that says you have to have a respectable passing game to have a consistent running game just look at Adrian Peterson. In 2012 he rushed for over 2000 yards despite the Vikings crap QB situation that had Minn ranking 31st in passing. If you have a solid runner and good run blocking you should be able to run the ball consistently. Not saying a passing game doesn't open up the run it does but there's plenty of examples of teams that haven't had respectable passing games that had very good running games.

The Cowboys don't have a back who can stiff arm their way through traffic and run downhill like Murray. The OL hasn't blocked as well this season and because Jerry banked on the OL rather than banking on a solid runner it's affected the running game. Dez being out had defenses stacking the box but even with him on the field Sunday McFadden only averaged 1.9 a carry. The Cowboys entered the season without a solid back and it's contributed to a very disappointing season.
 
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There's no rule that says you have to have a respectable passing game to have a consistent running game just look at Adrian Peterson. In 2012 when he rushed for over 2000 yards despite the Vikings crap QB situation that had Minn ranking 31st in passing. If you have a solid runner and good run blocking you should be able to run the ball consistently. Not saying a passing game doesn't open up the run but there's plenty of examples of teams that haven't had respectable passing games that had very good running games.

The Cowboys don't have a back who can stiff arm their way through traffic and run downhill like Murray. The OL hasn't blocked as well this season and because Jerry banked on the OL rather than banking on a solid runner it's affected the running game. Dez being out had defenses stacking the box but even with him on the field Sunday McFadden only averaged 1.9 a carry. The Cowboys entered the season without a solid back and it's contributed to a very disappointing season.

We're just annoyances. They can't handle the truth!
 

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We are still 9th in the league in rushing with bums and absolutely no qb play for most of the season. Would I like a young stud rb instead of a never was like run dmc? yes. but rb is pretty low on the list of things I rue about this season.
 

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Cowboys gonna get a good look of what they could have had in the 4th round Sunday.......

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Averaging 8.1 yards a carry.......

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2573300/jay-ajayi
 

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Some solid points and I agree with you on some . But , the point I was making is if we had our full offense in 3/4 of these games they would have probably been blowouts for us. The seattle , NO, TB, games . We probably would have beat the Giants and Philly too.

The opener that turned into a dogfight despite Romo putting up over 350 yards and 3 TD's tells me the Cowboys would have been in tight battles all season. The defense wasn't getting it done with Romo on the field. The Giants gashed the defense with the running game in the closing minutes of the opener and could have won it had they not mismanaged the clock. The Cowboys wouldn't be sitting here at 2-7 with Romo but without a consistent running game and not having a defense that can make critical stops we were looking at dogfights all season even with Romo.
 

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We are now on our 5th RB trying to replace Murray

Don't see how anybody can look at that and think it wasn't a mistake

And for those that say RB is not the problem, then why is the organization going through RBs like they are hotcakes?

Seems somebody pretty high up in the organization thinks the RB position is a problem
 

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We are now on our 5th RB trying to replace Murray

Don't see how anybody can look at that and think it wasn't a mistake

And for those that say RB is not the problem, then why is the organization going through RBs like they are hotcakes?

Seems somebody pretty high up in the organization thinks the RB position is a problem

And McFadden is the definition of Basic. His 3.8 ypc and 2 TDs is nothing to brag about.
 

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Bottom line is if one ranked our running backs as compared to other running backs in the league we would be pretty pitiful. We have straight line speed DMC and a bunch of guys that are just a bunch of guys. My god look what Washington is doing with the Matt Jones (3rd round pick) and we take Chaz Green? How would Jones look in a Cowboys uniform. Pretty good I'm thinking.
 
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