How can Dak not be the league MVP?

[Naruto]

I would nominate Tyrone Smith as the Cowboy's O-line Unit representative

 

[Gameover]

He better get a share of ROY. I know people love Zeke, but it's harder to do what Dak has done then what Zeke is doing. No history for what Dak has done. None

And I don't care what's around you(talent), reading defenses and delivery the ball as a rookie ain't easy.

 

[links18]

Boy it would be really nuts if Favre won MVP again.

But yea, I'd take that scenario again, too. Definitely.

Does Madden still have a vote? If so, Favre might actually get a vote this year.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Co-MVP's Dak and Zeke.

 

[Craig]

Hard to be the mvp when you arent even the most important player on the offense. Doesnt help that you arent the best player at your position. Hes a good look for oroy.

 

[conner01]

Lol, after last week people started to begrudgingly admit that the MVP talk was silly and unwarranted...and here it is, once again. This is crazy.

Last week many wanted to bench him
Now MVP

 

[JJHLH1]

This is a strange year since there is no clear-cut favorite as to who should win the award. Dak's game is all about intangibles and winning, as opposed to monster numbers, and that may hurt him in MVP voting. A rookie QB leading a 4-12 team to 12-2 and possible HFA is very impressive. The one thing that is certain is that he deserves to be on the Pro Bowl list when it is released tomorrow.

 

[Proximo]

He better get a share of ROY. I know people love Zeke, but it's harder to do what Dak has done then what Zeke is doing. No history for what Dak has done. None

And I don't care what's around you(talent), reading defenses and delivery the ball as a rookie ain't easy.

It's amazing how some folks casually dismiss Dak's performance. He's literally having the greatest rookie QB season of all time.

 

[Gameover]

Thank goodness Micheal Irvin helped in talking Jerry out of that move

Details?

 

[thechosen1n2]

the fact that Brady, who missed 4 games, is even a candidate just proves how much of a joke that award is

Also considering they were 3 and 1 without him.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

This is a strange year since there is no clear-cut favorite as to who should win the award. Dak's game is all about intangibles and winning as opposed to monster numbers, so that may hurt him in MVP voting. A rookie QB leading a 4-12 team to 12-2 and possible HFA is very impressive. One thing is certain, however, he deserves to be on the Pro Bowl list when it comes out tomorrow.

The pro bowl is a joke if he isn't.

 

[RoboQB]

Please site the source of that statement.

The first thing they do is list a players accolades.
Super Bowls, Pro Bowls, MVP, ROY, etc.

I guess if you're looking for a source you could Google it.
You'll probably find it fairly easy.

 

[tyke1doe]

Please site the source of that statement.

No one source, but based on an analysis of the Hall of Fame quarterbacks and statements writers have given in the past, I draw my conclusion.

For example, in arguing for Ken Stabler's introduction Elliot Harrison points to his Super Bowl win and his league MVP award.

The Snake was terrific during his era. A member of the All-Decade Team of the 1970s -- and one of the few on the prestigious squad not enshrined in the Hall -- Stabler won both a league MVP (1974) and a Super Bowl (XI). He posted the second-highest passer rating (103.4) of the decade in 1976 and led the NFL in yards per attempt during the 1970s (7.7), while placing third in touchdown passes. All this, despite not earning the starting nod from Raiders coach John Madden until mid-1973.

In citing his eight players who he thinks should get into the Hall, Brett Pollakoff cites Kurt Warner and notes not only his Super Bowl appearances (one win) but his League MVP awards.

Warner put up gaudy numbers while running the Greatest Show on Turf with the Rams, and has two NFL MVPs to go along with a Super Bowl MVP he earned while throwing for a record 414 yards in Super Bowl XXXIV. He also led the Arizona Cardinals to a Super Bowl appearance in 2009, and his 65.5 percent career pass completion rate is the fourth-best of all time.

Furthermore, if you look at the quarterbacks who have been inducted into the Hall of Fame over more than 30 years, only one has never appeared in a Super Bowl. And he is Dan Fouts who not only had the numbers (Vinny Testeverde and Drew Bledsoe have Hall of Fame numbers no League MVP to their name) but he was a League MVP. Every other Hall of Fame quarterback of the modern era either:

1. Played in a Super Bowl or (*NFL Championships before the Super Bowl)
2. Won a Super Bowl or *
3. Played in multiple Super Bowl or *
4. Won multiple Super Bowls or *

Interestingly enough, Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach (both Cowboys) and Jim Kelly are the only quarterbacks who didn't win a league MVP yet are in the Hall of Fame. But all three played in more than three Super Bowls: Aikman (3), Staubach (5), Kelly (4)

My "crude" research of the Hall of Fame quarterbacks:

Ken Stabler – Super Bowl winner, League MVP (1974)
Brett Favre – Super Bowl winner, League MVP (1995-1997)
Troy Aikman – Super Bowl winner, multiple
Dan Marino – Super Bowl appearance, League MVP (1984)
Steve Young – Super Bowl winner, League MVP (1992-1994)
John Elway – Super Bowl winner, multiple, League MVP (1987)
Jim Kelly – Super Bowl appearances (multiple)
Joe Montana – Super Bowl MVP, League MVP (1989, 1990)
Dan Fouts - League MVP (1982)
Bob Griese – Super Bowl winner, multiple, League MVP (1971)
Terry Bradshaw – Super Bowl winner, multiple, League MVP (1978)
Len Dawson – Super Bowl winner, AFL MVP (1962)
Fran Tarkenton – Super Bowl appearances, multiple, League MVP (1975)
Roger Staubach – Super Bowl winner, multiple
Joe Namath – Super Bowl winner, AFL MVP (1968, 1969)
Sonny Jurgensen – NFL Champion winner (1960) (changed to the Super Bowl in 1968)
George Blanda – AFL MVP (1961)

Furthermore, look who Tony Romo will go up against when he's being considered for the Hall of Fame:

Tom Brady, 4x Super Bowl champion, 6x Super Bowl appearances, 3x Super Bowl MVP, 2x League MVP
Drew Brees, 1x Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP, 2x NFL Offensive Player of the Year
Peyton Manning, 2x Super Bowl champion, 4x Super Bowl appearances, 5x NFL MVP, 2x Offensive Player of the Year
Ben Roethlisberger, 2x Super Bowl champion, 3x Super Bowl appearances, NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year
Aaron Rodgers, 1x Super Bowl champion, 2x NFL MVP
Eli Manning, 2x Super Bowl champion, 2x Super Bowl MVP

Romo has NO individual NFL awards. He's going up against his contemporaries who dwarf him in individual awards and Super Bowls. No, that's not solely his fault. But the fact he doesn't have even a League MVP hurts his consideration.

 

[tyke1doe]

Romo could still get a ring this year.

True. But he has to get it starting and winning the Super Bowl. Remember, Steve Young had a Super Bowl ring as a back up. But he got it legit when he won one as a starter against the Chargers (a Super Bowl victory which should have been ours. )

 

[Redball Express]

When the news came out that Tony Romo had fractured his L1 vertebra, Everyone in the NFL thought "Oh no here comes 2015 all over again". We even contacted the Browns about trading for Josh McCown (Thank goodness Micheal Irvin helped in talking Jerry out of that move). Now fast forward to week 16 and we are one win away from home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. So as great as Zeke has been, How can Dak Prescott not be this year's MVP?

It's a political football that award.

The voters that count come from the east and west coast media's.

I say David Carr or Ryan get it.

Zeke gets ROY though clearly.

 

[LatinMind]

When the news came out that Tony Romo had fractured his L1 vertebra, Everyone in the NFL thought "Oh no here comes 2015 all over again". We even contacted the Browns about trading for Josh McCown (Thank goodness Micheal Irvin helped in talking Jerry out of that move). Now fast forward to week 16 and we are one win away from home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. So as great as Zeke has been, How can Dak Prescott not be this year's MVP?

I dont think there is a bigger Dak fan than me. But i would vote for Elliot over him. I think media will end up giving it to brady. Even with his suspension theres no QB playing better.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

True. But he has to get it starting and winning the Super Bowl. Remember, Steve Young had a Super Bowl ring as a back up. But he got it legit when he won one as a starter against the Chargers (a Super Bowl victory which should have been ours. )

He actually has 2 Super Bowl rings as a backup, and he earned both of them in spades. He started 6 games over the two Super Bowl winning seasons, and the 49ers went 5-1 when he started and he posted better numbers than Montana over the stretch. You can make a strong case that in at least one of the seasons the 49ers would not have made the playoffs without him. I know there are levels to all of this and a long snapper's "ring" isn't the same as a QBs "ring", but Young very much earned all 3 of his rings. I think people sometimes forget the details.

 

[KJJ]

What hurts Dak's chances at MVP is Zeke also having a great rookie year. Many give Zeke's performance this season a lot of credit for Dak's success and the OL receives a lot of credit for both players success. When you have two players having great years with both being MVP candidates, a lot of times they cancel each other out. Usually the MVP goes to the one player, usually a QB that stands out amongst the rest.

They're given most of the credit for a teams success. It's been very debatable who's been more valuable to the team this season, Dak or Zeke. My vote always goes to the QB because you can't win consistently without good QB play, especially a team like the Cowboys that have been very QB dependent. We went through three backup QBs last season and won only one game despite having a thousand yard rusher in the backfield.

 

[Go Big D!]

MVP belongs to Zeke.

 

[Blackspider214]

Lol, after last week people started to begrudgingly admit that the MVP talk was silly and unwarranted...and here it is, once again. This is crazy.

Only morons thought that. Dak, even after last week, was an MVP candidate. ROTY at worst. I can never recall a QB who played flawlessly for 16 games in any given season. It doesn't happen at this level. Russell Wilson has had quite a few stinkers this year.

I doubt Brady gets it seeing he missed a quarter of the season and they went 3-1 without him.

Who are the other candidates? Matt Ryan, Stafford?? Rodgers? Not sure. But Dak is definitely in the final 5. Along with Zeke.