How can you not be passionate for Dak?

Aviano90

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I wanted Garoppolo from the get go... and it is going to be obvious why, over the course of his career.

Well actually after the first time I saw him play in the NFL I should say. You could see all the pieces were there with him.
Will be interesting to see how quickly he leads the 49'ers to playoff success.
 

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The Romo cry babies will run back under a rock very soon. For 24 games they were in hiding and licking their wounds. The entire team goes to pot and they jump for joy and crawl out of the woodwork. LOL

Time to pick another team for many of them. Dak will be tearing it up for years.
Romo obviously is living in your head RENT FREE!
 

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First, I won't be surprised. I think the team can and will be successful this coming year. I have said many times, that as long as we don't need Dak to do to much, he will be fine and we will games.

You kinda made my point for me, as long as we have elite level talent around him, he can function at a good level. It's when things aren't elite around him, i.e. the OL that he falls apart. This was his biggest issue at State and it is still an issue as we saw last year. Yes, the man took a beating in ATL. No QB could perform at a high level with that type of protection, I don't fault him for that game at all. But it clearly messed with him, i.e. no mental toughness. He went into a shell. I would hope that if we are counting on him to be the guy moving forward, its during those times he elevates his game and those around him. He didn't.

I personally want a QB that can put the team on their back and carry them, when needed (hopefully that is not very often). Dak has not proved to me he can do that. Until he does, I won't think he is a franchise QB. That doesn't mean we won't have success or that he will not play well when everything is going good. But I am always an optimistic fan when it comes to the team. I do think we have good team with the potential to be very good to great - this year. And don't confuse my lack of giddiness over Dak to represent I hope he fails. It quite the opposite, I want the team to win a SB every year and I don't care who the coach, QB, owner, etc are.. doesn't matter to me, I want a SB. So every game, i am there rooting and hoping that the team plays well and we win, period. But I feel it's ok to discuss the team open and honestly with other fans, even those we don't agree with and still wish the best for team.
Agreed, I want an Elite QB as well that can win games with his arm. No bus drivers for me please. We will see soon enough what Dak is and has, we already know that he is a great teammate, hard worker and leader, now let's see if he can air it out consistently to keep defenses honest.
 

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Ummm.......NO, bugs crawl out of the woodwork. And yah there is a term crawl out from under a rock. English language much?
All the time. And I use comas, punctuation and complete sentences. much.
 

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The physical tools are all thrre and a 21-10 record in his first two years as our QB isn't too shabby either. I look forward to him creating more fans this year as he matures and takes additional steps up the ladder of success.

I think he will prove he is here to stay this year to all who have any objectivity.
 

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I think he will prove he is here to stay this year to all who have any objectivity.

I am very hard on him... but this is his 3rd year as the starter. So this is the make it or break it year for me for him. But, I will be more then happy to say I was wrong, if he does turn into what some people think he is. Because I would like to not have to alternate QBs every couple of years lol.
 

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His aging, injury prone, no good wide receiver was having a down season(due to his lack of teh Rowt runninj!!1) and instead of put his arm around the guy he sold him out to the media.

I am hopeful he works on his stat padding front running ways and learns to be more like romo on and off the field ;p

Trust me you dont want him to be like romo, we won't see a SB for another 9 years.
 

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While Dak looked good in the first 8 games, he was not as flawless as his rookie season. The second 8 games Dak was playing on a below average offense. The o-line was playing average football with depth and performance issues, the YPC stats for the backs were empty as they had trouble running in crucial situations as well as first down and never provided half the threat and game-planning Zeke does, and the receiving core was amongst one of the least dynamic in the league.

Consider this, for all eligible pass catchers in 2017 (tight ends & receivers), Dak's targets where 24th in separation (Mr. Body Catch Terrance Williams), 89th (Jason Witten), 96th (league leader in drops Dez Bryant), and 98th Cole Beasley. His slight issues in the first half and then huge issues in the second half are a direct correlation to having Zeke to mask the receiver issues vs. not having Zeke and the issues being exposed. The team was simply 1 year behind on their overhaul of the wide receiver position, even though it was virtually impossible to see it coming. If the team had the same pass catchers in 2018 as 2017, we would all be very disappointed in the passing game.


You might ask, but why does he need protection, a running game, and good receivers in order to play well? Well unless you have an elite defense (which the team might be on the cusp of doing), elite coaching, or Brady, Brees, Wilson, or Rodgers playing QB; you're gonna need to give your quarterback help. Only the elite top 4 or 5 qb's in the league can take a team with holes to post season success. The other guys like Matt Ryan, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Cam Newton, and etc. need help.


What was Matt Ryan's career before Julio Jones, Mike Shanahan and Devonte Freeman? Cam Newton's MVP year his team led the league in rushing and was top 5 in total defense. Kirk Cousins can pass for all the 4,000 yard seasons to all the DJax's and Garcons of the world if he wants to, without a running game he couldn;t win anything of significance. In 2016, Carr had a top 5 rushing team, a top 3 o-line as well as Pro-bowl caliber receivers and looked like an MVP; make those things slightly worse last season and you see a natural regression.


Every team with a non-elite QB needs and has a system designed for their strengths. Romo had one and unfortunately the coaches weren't logical enough to think that Romo's offense wasn't the best fit for Dak. They used a simpler version of the offense in 2016, and when they wanted to put more on his plate for 2017 they did so in Tony's offense. The passing game was meant to flow through Dez and open the game up for the others but with Dez not being the same guy from 2014 along with his lack of chemistry with Dak; that plan was doomed form the get-go. Again, this is on the coaching staff as they should have implemented an offense suited to his strengths and not Romo's.

*******Sidenote: I know this isn't a Romo thread but this must be addressed. We killed Romo when he played and love him now. He's a hall of famer in the fans eyes and was an elite qb to many. I love Tony, but this isn't true. Tony never took the team to a conference championship. Elite qb's can take teams with holes and make them exponentially better. Yes the FO never gave him a superbowl team, but there have been elite qb's to do it without the star studded roster. There are 2 ways to win a superbowl; option A) Elite qb play with opportunistic defenses (2010 Saints, A-Rods Packers), option B) elite defense and/or running game and smart risk averse qb play (2014 seahawks in Wilson's second year, Mannings broncos vs. Panthers). The Cowboys mistakenly thought with Romo they could win with option A, when they really should have planned for option B. Dak will always be a 14-16 league qb based solely off arm talent. But with the right team-building philosophy can play like a 8-10 with his leadership, movement skills, and lack of turnovers when given proper protection and receiving targets. That's all the team needs from him! 4,000 yard passing seasons and deep bombs are icing on the cake, not the actual needs of the team just entertainment.

The bottom line is Dak is a good qb with average arm talent who uses intangibles, toughness, leadership, dual threat athleticism, and great short to intermediate accuracy to play winning football. That's who he's been his whole career from college to the pros. *** You better believe his short/intermediate accuracy and risk aversion are real. They have been strengths of his during his whole career, 6 games with circumstances unlikely to occur again do not define him in those terms! With an offseason in his own system and fixing of all the major offensive issues there is no reason to believe he wont play like a 8-10 range guy. O line is here to stay, Zeke should play more than 10 games, and the wide receiver room is filled with guys who are good route runners and can get open. Dak SHOULD have the tools to succeed. He does need to improve, but he is a more than capable franchise guy.
 

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