How close were we medically to Romo playing

[big dog cowboy]

Now imagine Romo taking that hit.

He has his entire career.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He has his entire career.

He can't take those hits anymore.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Serious question here....do you think Romo would want to play in a meaningless Week 17 game @Philly with likely other backups playing vs a pretty good defense? Man, that would be weird.
Or does Sanchez get that mop-up duty?

 

[cej757]

Now imagine Romo taking that hit.

Not Pretty

 

[Blackspider214]

It's nice to see (that is read) any football observer's comments discerning the nuances of tackling. Many fans see all tackling as equal. It isn't.

Such incidents aren't isolated to any one NFL division though. Plus, most defenders tackle without the intent to injury but a few do.

Prescott's honeymoon period with the rest of the league may be about over. He should fully prepare himself if he hasn't already. A few tacklers do tend to finish plays more 'vigorously' tackling the starting quarterback of America's Team more often than not--another reason why I've been very pleased with the offensive line's overall pass protection for Prescott this season.

Yes but it seems really rampant in the AFC North. Bengals/Steelers/Ravens are notorious for these types of players over the last decade. I don't mind big hits at all. It's apart of the game. But to intentionally try and injure and possibly ruin a career has no place in the game. There's plenty of ways to tackle and make a big hit legally. And they all know this. But some choose not to and play dirty.

That Steelers/Bengals playoff game last season was full of this. It got out of hand at the end.

I agree most of the league is not like this and it's just a small percentage of bad applies but I hate that with a passion. I wouldn't even celebrate it if it was my own team doing it and it benefited us like if we went at a QB's knees to knock him out or ruin his career.

We've had some big hitters over the years like Roy Williams, Woodson, Bill Bates, Wilcox but they were never dirty about it.

 

[waldoputty]

He can't take those hits anymore.

Here is where we agree about Romo's body, but we disagree with the best move for the team.

We both think Romo would not get up after any of those hits.

But I think a fair competition between Dak and Romo in the next camp would be useful.
If Romo wins, then Dak stays as backup because he has no choice and he knows it is his team long term, mid term and probably even short term.
If Romo wins the competition but cannot get up after the first big hit (or second), then he should understand he needs to be the backup (or retire).
If the first big hit lands him on IR for the rest of the season, what we lost was the compensation in a trade, but I rather get the absolutely best backup in the business than what we can probably get in a trade.

Either way, it offers a path for us to keep Romo as the by-far best backup in the league.
If Romo wins the competition and survives and thrives as starter, then we were all wrong and he offers the best chance to win the superbowl.
Thus the competition approach is an event-driven solution to getting the best QB depth.

 

[DFWJC]

Now imagine Romo taking that hit.

Would have recognized the blitz and moved people around to fix it.

 

[waldoputty]

Would have recognized the blitz and moved people around to fix it.

That may have been true in one case, but out of 10 big hits that Dak takes, Romo would be at least hit hard once or twice.

That is why some dont think he should start, beyond the mistakes issue compared with Dak.
But some of us say give him his shot in a competition, and if he cannot take it or loses the competition, he should settle to be the backup.

 

[Doomsday101]

That may have been true in one case, but out of 10 big hits that Dak takes, Romo would be at least hit hard once or twice.

That is why some dont think he should start, beyond the mistakes issue compared with Dak.
But some of us say give him his shot in a competition, and if he cannot take it or loses the competition, he should settle to be the backup.

I think you are fighting a losing battle and not with other fans but the organization. They made their move and it is not going to change. Romo very well could be called into action this season but in the bigger picture I don't think it will change the Cowboys mindset. I think they know how good Romo is and sure there are things Romo is clearly better at than Dak but honestly there are things Dak can do in this offense that Romo can't. I'm a big Romo fan as well and this is not the script I had in mind for his career but Dak is the starting QB and likely will be for a good long time.

 

[DFWJC]

That may have been true in one case, but out of 10 big hits that Dak takes, Romo would be at least hit hard once or twice.

That is why some dont think he should start, beyond the mistakes issue compared with Dak.
But some of us say give him his shot in a competition, and if he cannot take it or loses the competition, he should settle to be the backup.

Can't disrupt what's going on now, imo.

But Romo is physically as good or better than he was in 2014, and he absorbed plenty of those hits that year.

The injuries that he had that would worry me long term are the pre-2014 lower back injuries.
The collarbone was a bone break, so no amount of muscle keeps that from happening.
The compression fracture was as fluky as fluky can be..and all doctors say it's not something is recurring.

My concern would always be that old lower back stuff (nothing related to what he got this year) happening again. I suspect his core strength is better now than in 2014 or before though.

Doesn't matter. Dak is the starter and the team is rolling.

 

[DallasEast]

Would have recognized the blitz and moved people around to fix it.

Present circumstances makes this a weird what if but "what if" Romo had benefited from the offensive line blocking seen this season? There have been some breakdowns but The Great Wall has done a wonderful job overall shielding Prescott. I would've been more apprehensive during a Romo scramble providing an opportunity for a defender to get the right angle on him but not so much about him standing in the pocket this (regular) season.

 

[DandyDon52]

Serious question here....do you think Romo would want to play in a meaningless Week 17 game @Philly with likely other backups playing vs a pretty good defense? Man, that would be weird.
Or does Sanchez get that mop-up duty?

I am sure it will be romo, and want doesnt matter jg told him it was his job to be bkup.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think you are fighting a losing battle and not with other fans but the organization. They made their move and it is not going to change. Romo very well could be called into action this season but in the bigger picture I don't think it will change the Cowboys mindset. I think they know how good Romo is and sure there are things Romo is clearly better at than Dak but honestly there are things Dak can do in this offense that Romo can't. I'm a big Romo fan as well and this is not the script I had in mind for his career but Dak is the starting QB and likely will be for a good long time.

Well said, you hit all the points.
I also think the cowboys or jones boys, like having Dak as starter,at least as it is now, and they like having tony as the # 2 QB.
I have said before, Tony is not really a bkup qb, he is a 2nd starting qb, which no other team has.
This is a odd situation, but if something happens to dak, then tony steps in and can keep the team rolling and winning.

There is debate over which team would want tony for starter, but the cowboys may keep him as a # 2 for next year.
It is insurance if something happens to dak.

 

[DallasEast]

I am sure it will be romo, and want doesnt matter jg told him it was his job to be bkup.

Want is irrelevant but it has nothing to do with Garrett. Romo has always been the consummate professional. He will do and want to do everything in his power to help the team succeed this season.

The last thing anyone will see out is Romo being disgruntled in any form or fashion. Individuals like him do not stand naked before the world, say all the right things, mean what they say, and not automatically turn into little *****es afterwards.

If it's necessary for Romo to play in a meaningless game, he'll play and he'll want to play. Not certain why anyone would question his character after so many years of him being upfront and center.

 

[waldoputty]

Well said, you hit all the points.
I also think the cowboys or jones boys, like having Dak as starter,at least as it is now, and they like having tony as the # 2 QB.
I have said before, Tony is not really a bkup qb, he is a 2nd starting qb, which no other team has.
This is a odd situation, but if something happens to dak, then tony steps in and can keep the team rolling and winning.

There is debate over which team would want tony for starter, but the cowboys may keep him as a # 2 for next year.
It is insurance if something happens to dak.

Right, it is just how to convince Romo to stay.

 

[DallasEast]

Right, it is just how to convince Romo to stay.

Easy. He must forsake his ambitions.

Well, maybe not THAT easy. Maybe not even possible. We'll see.

 

[waldoputty]

Easy. He must forsake his ambitions.

Well, maybe not THAT easy. Maybe not even possible. We'll see.

That is why I push for the competition.
Tony probably loses in fair fight if you account for mobility and 1 year of study for Dak.
It is easier to swallow.

In the event Tony wins, he may be better and should start.
If he cannot survive, then they scrap him of the carpet and he becomes the backup.
He is safer behind our line than anyone else's line.

 

[DallasEast]

That is why I push for the competition.
Tony probably loses in fair fight if you account for mobility and 1 year of study for Dak.
It is easier to swallow.

In the event Tony wins, he may be better and should start.
If he cannot survive, then they scrap him of the carpet and he becomes the backup.
He is safer behind our line than anyone else's line.

Well, The Speech was an atypical event in the NFL. Heck, it was an atypical event in all American sports. Perhaps Romo stays but typically the former starting quarterback in similar circumstances makes his exit from the team as quickly as possible. The raw emotion and text Romo demonstrated and said during The Speech kinda supports that happening. I believe I should've scratched the "kinda."

Romo's stable. He's wealthy. He has his talent. He has his health, despite some people inferring that he has one foot in an NFL grave. He has options, maybe not straight forward but options nonetheless. In my opinion, no current contractual realities, future unclear team potentialities, etc., will push this particular instance towards an atypical result. I think some have varying reasons of their own for retaining Romo but those reasons do not take into account what Romo wants--no matter how clear he has already made his personal ambitions known to the listening world aka Earth.

 

[etw926]

He can't take those hits anymore.

Thanks Doc.

 

[waldoputty]

Thanks Doc.

I would certain prefer Romo over Sanchez, as so would everyone.

Thought about Romo with each big hit landed on Dak, and there were quite a few.