How Dak Stacks up

[GroundZero1970]

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Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

 

[CWR]

I got this from X

Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

A couple of points:

1) Dak and his lack of offense/turnovers have helped to increase the number of points allowed.

2) I've argued forever that Dak needs a run game and run defense in the playoffs. He's a good qb, but not good enough to overcome those handicaps.

I support moving on for the simple fact we have proven we can not or will not right those wrongs. This goes back to at least 2018 vs the Rams. Besides that he's not getting any younger. It's not necessarily I don't believe Dak capable. It's that I don't believe him capable here in Dallas.

 

[GroundZero1970]

A couple of points:

1) Dak and his lack of offense/turnovers have helped to increase the number of points allowed.

2) I've argued forever that Dak needs a run game and run defense in the playoffs. He's a good qb, but not good enough to overcome those handicaps.

I support moving on for the simple fact we have proven we can not or will not right those wrongs. This goes back to at least 2018 vs the Rams. Besides that he's not getting any younger. It's not necessarily I don't believe Dak capable. It's that I don't believe him capable here in Dallas.

You raise a fair point.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I got this from X

Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

It is dishonest to do straight up QB stats comparisons without accounting for changes in rules. Most of the top passers in stats are either playing right now, or retired recently because of the rules changes.

You also make no attempt to account for how many points were the result of turnovers by Dak in those 30+ point games.

Every QB you mention besides Dak has won a SB.

Garbage analysis meant to gaslight people into thinking Dak is better than he really is.

 

[GroundZero1970]

Doesn't change the win loss record.

 

[buybuydandavis]

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

Depends how it's done.

Judging QBs by team record is dumb.

Judging QBs by how well they play under pressure against good teams is smart. Judging QBs by what they can deliver in tough situations is smart.

Fun fact: Tony's career QB rating on 4th and 10+ is 158.3. Perfect. GOAT.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00/splits/

Look at the 4th down stats for Tony.
Look at the Game Situation stats, Trailing, 2 minutes to go.
Money time. Money player.

Now do Dak.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00/splits/

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Kirk Cousins ranks better in basically all of these than Dak but yet you'll tell us all day long how Dak is head and shoulders better.

This is why nobody takes Dak fans seriously.

1 more year of this junk.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Depends how it's done.

Judging QBs by team record is dumb.

Judging QBs by how well they play under pressure against good teams is smart. Judging QBs by what they can deliver in tough situations is smart.

Fun fact: Tony's career QB rating on 4th and 10+ is 158.3. Perfect. GOAT.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00/splits/

Look at the 4th down stats for Tony.
Look at the Game Situation stats, Trailing, 2 minutes to go.
Money time. Money player.

Now do Dak.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00/splits/

Fun fact, Romo never made it any further than Dak. You also don't account for why Romo had to make so many comebacks as often it was the result of his poor play earlier in the game such as the Buffalo game.

And you picked a very narrow scenario for proclaiming Romo a GOAT. You could probably narrow specifics down for just about any QB who played significant time and fined something where they had a unique stat better than others.

Romo and Dak both couldn't get the job done. Both had 13-3 one seeds and blew it equally, so don't try any excuses of bad teams around them.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Fun fact, Romo never made it any further than Dak. You also don't account for why Romo had to make so many comebacks as often it was the result of his poor play earlier in the game such as the Buffalo game.

And you picked a very narrow scenario for proclaiming Romo a GOAT. You could probably narrow specifics down for just about any QB who played significant time and fined something where they had a unique stat better than others.

Romo and Dak both couldn't get the job done. Both had 13-3 one seeds and blew it equally, so don't try any excuses of bad teams around them.

You seemed to have missed the "Judging QBs by team record is dumb."

But you're right that the 4th and 10+ stat is a limited one to be the GOAT in. But it's not nothing either. And it consistent with the other situational stats for Tony. Not that he's the GOAT in them, but he plays when well you really need a play out of your QB.

Especially in comparison to Dak.

The statistical contrast between the two lines up with the general perception. Tony was a playmaker. Dak has not been. Come crunch time, Tony was at his best. Dak crumples.

 

[RoboQB]

I wonder how many playoff QBs had the "deer looking in the headlights" stare while down 7-0 in the 1st quarter before taking a single snap at home like Dak did.

Dude was in complete panic mode and seemed relieved once it was completely out of hand.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I got this from X

Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

Now you went and did it. All the Daksessed people are going to be here and regurgitate everything again.

Don't you know defense playing bad is Daks fault. They are going to point to GB game and SF game. The interceptions caused the defensive collapse.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Romo and Dak both couldn't get the job done. Both had 13-3 one seeds and blew it equally, so don't try any excuses of bad teams around them.

No they did not “blow it equally”. The equivalence is only in the fact that both teams lost. Otherwise, it’s quite different. Tony’s 13-3 team was ahead for most of the game until late in the 3rd quarter ultimately losing to the eventual SB champions who beat the SB favorite undefeated Patriots. Dak’s 13-3 team was down 21-3 with halfway to go through the second quarter against one of the worst pass defenses in the league that year that got exposed the following week. Granted he was a rookie then, but it was a slow start that has been consistent with Dak in the playoffs. These “leveling” claims based on just a record is what’s called a “false equivalence” in logical circles, ignoring a multitude of factors as to why there are significant differences.

 

[doomsday9084]

Passer rating: 5th

Career passer rating:
1 Purdy 111.4
2 Rodgers 103.6
3 Mahomes 103.5
4 CJ Stroud 100.8
5 Watson 100.8
6 Wilson 100.0
7 Dak 99.0

Those are just off the top of my head. I suspect that the "all time" ratings are slanted in a way that it discards a lot of the newer QB's that have played in the pass happy NFL but allows Dak to slide in.

I won't bother to check the rest.

I will say this: Yes, Dak needs a good running game and defense and coaching to win in the NFL. Pretty much all QB's do. That's the problem with his contract. Dallas' window to win was when he was cheap and unfortunately, Dallas was still paying off Romo's contract during Dak's early years.

 

[TwentyOne]

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

Of course it is. Thats trivial.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

....Another Dak thread attempt similar to "putting lipstick on a pig".... Don't believe your eyes, believe in the selective stats i am throwing at you in comparison to some QBs who have actually won big games and in the playoffs too, just not the ones I will pick out for you. Who are you kidding?.... we all seen Dak implode in the most crucial times and in the playoffs. Trying to blame the defense for his failures is insane. Go peddle this to some football fans who only know that it is a oblong shaped weird ball. A pig is still a pig. no matter if you put lipstick, eyelashes, a tutu and pearl earrings with a matching necklace.
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[Ken]

I got this from X

Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

Not bad for a guy a lot on here think can't tie his own shoes.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I got this from X

Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

GARBAGE stats against garbage teams!
Dude has made a career vs the doggy NFC East ..............The End!

 

[erod]

I got this from X

Where Dak ranks among all time Quarterbacks:

Pass completion percentage: 4th

Adjusted Net Yards per pass attempt: 7th

Pass interception percentage: 9th

Passer rating: 5th

Touchdown/Interception ratio: 6th

Fun fact: in 3 of Dak’s playoff losses the defense allowed 30+ points.

Other Quarterbacks playoff records when their defense allows 30+

Tom Brady: 2-3
Aaron Rodgers: 1-5
Drew Brees: 0-3
Joe Montana: 0-3
Brett Farve: 0-7
Peyton Manning: 2-4
John Elway: 0-6
Ben Roethlisberger: 0-6

“But playoffs” is a stupid argument when analyzing a quarterback’s skill set

That should tell you all you need to know about the irrelevance of stats.

Dak is a middling quarterback. The definition of average. But he plays in the right era to rack up stats in garbage time of meaningless games.

You'd know this if you understood football.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I wonder how many playoff QBs had the "deer looking in the headlights" stare while down 7-0 in the 1st quarter before taking a single snap at home like Dak did.

Dude was in complete panic mode and seemed relieved once it was completely out of hand.

too funny!

 

[PAPPYDOG]

That should tell you all you need to know about the irrelevance of stats.

Dak is a middling quarterback. The definition of average. But he plays in the right era to rack up stats in garbage time of meaningless games.

You'd know this if you understood football.

A typical example was the GB game where in the 4th Q losing 48-16 good old garbage man Dakko again piled up his stats.
Lets be honest with ourselves how many times have we seen the above scenario in his career?
Too many.................he's a bum and a needs to be carried bum big time!