How does Dak Prescott compare to other great QB’s of this era?

[Diehardblues]

I could see how you could make a case for Merideth, but Morton? are you serious?

When you take his entire career . Which was the longest (18 years)of any drafted QB in Cowboy history. Don’t forget he was first To QB two different teams to a SB.

But like I said probably. It’s defintely more arguable. He was a tipped pass away from winnng our first SB.

And if not for Roger he would have most likely been enough to lead us to more SB’s.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

When you take his entire career . Which was the longest (18 years)of any drafted QB in Cowboy history. Don’t forget he was first To QB two different teams to a SB.

But like I said probably. It’s defintely more arguable. He was a tipped pass away from winnng our first SB.

I have alot of memories of Morton and in my opinion he was an average QB who played on some very above average teams, i think alot of those teams carried him instead of the other way around, he would probably fit the description of a good game manager or as people like to say today a "Bus Driver"

 

[JustChip]

Staubach, maybe not. Troy, definitely.

Troy would have been maimed on Romo's teams.

And Tony would've been in a wheel chair after the hits Troy took, especially early in Troy's career. I sat at Texas Stadium in 1990 and witnessed Philly absolutely pummel him with something like 9 or 10 hard sacks - and they weren't any lay downs like Favre did to get Strahan the season sack record. The next year (at least I think it was the next year), he played the 2nd half at Arizona with a concussion and remembered virtually nothing about it. Jimmy definitely shortened Troy's career by playing on terrible teams his first 2 years.

 

[JustChip]

I have alot of memories of Morton and in my opinion he was an average QB who played on some very above average teams, i think alot of those teams carried him instead of the other way around, he would probably fit the description of a good game manager or as people like to say today a "Bus Driver"

I agree. He was a little like Vinny Testaverde - rocket arm, but tended to turned it over.

 

[JustChip]

When you take his entire career . Which was the longest (18 years)of any drafted QB in Cowboy history. Don’t forget he was first To QB two different teams to a SB.

But like I said probably. It’s defintely more arguable. He was a tipped pass away from winnng our first SB.

And if not for Roger he would have most likely been enough to lead us to more SB’s.

Good points.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

And Tony would've been in a wheel chair after the hits Troy took, especially early in Troy's career. I sat at Texas Stadium in 1990 and witnessed Philly absolutely pummel him with something like 9 or 10 hard sacks - and they weren't any lay downs like Favre did to get Strahan the season sack record. The next year (at least I think it was the next year), he played the 2nd half at Arizona with a concussion and remembered virtually nothing about it. Jimmy definitely shortened Troy's career by playing on terrible teams his first 2 years.

That 1989 team was worst than any team Tony was on.

 

[erod]

And Tony would've been in a wheel chair after the hits Troy took, especially early in Troy's career. I sat at Texas Stadium in 1990 and witnessed Philly absolutely pummel him with something like 9 or 10 hard sacks - and they weren't any lay downs like Favre did to get Strahan the season sack record. The next year (at least I think it was the next year), he played the 2nd half at Arizona with a concussion and remembered virtually nothing about it. Jimmy definitely shortened Troy's career by playing on terrible teams his first 2 years.

Troy dealt with it for two years. Romo did for about 8.

 

[Diehardblues]

Tony probably has 3 SB wins and is in the HoF; Troy probably has no SB wins and isn't in the HoF. But that and $4 will buy you a tall latte at Starbucks. Circumstances matter. I've said numerous times on here that if Tony and Eli were swapped, in all likelihood Tony has at least 1 Super Bowl and Eli none. But both of these are fun to noodle on, but mean absolutely nothing because they're opinion and not provable.

I’ve never had a crystal ball. There’s enough to discuss and argue with what actually transpired than bringing in all of the speculative prognosis.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

That 1989 team was worst than any team Tony was on.

It was and Troy was also a rookie, i'm not sure Tony would have taken as big a beating as Troy did with that team only because he was just so damn slippery in the pocket but there is no way he would have done any better with that team than Troy did. That was the worst team in Cowboys history

 

[JustChip]

That 1989 team was worst than any team Tony was on.

No doubt. It truly was on par with Cleveland. Actually, it was probably worse since there's no comparison between Jimmy and Hue Jackson as coaches so that team had to be worse than Cleveland.

 

[pansophy]

The problem are the absolutes. You talk about him not being able to throw outside the hashes 10-20 yards downfield, yet he has. Case in point, in the 2nd NY game last year, he hit Dez in stride inside the 5 at the sideline from the 35 I believe and Dez dropped it. And please, this is NOT a Dez-bashing comment, just a refute that Dak can’t throw past 10-20 outside the hash. That’s patently not true! Now, if you want to say he doesn’t do it consistently, fine, but that’s a different arguement.

He can throw the go route past 20 yards — I’m talking about throws to the outside 10-20 yards down field. That whole part of the route tree is off the table.

 

[pansophy]

We're not?

Best offensive line, best running back arguable, rapidly improving defense, good special teams, and yes, a reasonable set of receivers.

Put a top 5 quarterback here, and this is absolutely a Super Bowl caliber team.

In my mind being a QB away means that all of those pieces are established and all that is left is QB. So we could win a super bowl this year, but a lot of pieces would have to come together this year that we didn’t have last year.

 

[Diehardblues]

If we hadn’t had the situation we had Romo would have never had his opportunity to play.

All you can be is the best your opportunity provides which I think on the most part with Romo’s ability he did.

 

[JustChip]

I’ve never had a crystal ball. There’s enough to discuss and argue with what actually transpired than bringing in all of the speculative prognosis.

Right. I wasn't the one that brought the speculation in - Erod did with the swap Tony and Troy comment. Well, I did bring the Tony and Eli in

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

It was and Troy was also a rookie, i'm not sure Tony would have taken as big a beating as Troy did with that team only because he was just so damn slippery in the pocket but there is no way he would have done any better with that team than Troy did. That was the worst team in Cowboys history

Maybe not 1960 bad but it was probably close.

 

[pansophy]

The problem are the absolutes. You talk about him not being able to throw outside the hashes 10-20 yards downfield, yet he has. Case in point, in the 2nd NY game last year, he hit Dez in stride inside the 5 at the sideline from the 35 I believe and Dez dropped it. And please, this is NOT a Dez-bashing comment, just a refute that Dak can’t throw past 10-20 outside the hash. That’s patently not true! Now, if you want to say he doesn’t do it consistently, fine, but that’s a different arguement.

There was a clip of Dak throwing an over the shoulder pass to the sideline from camp this year. It was perfect. If he has added that to his game then we’ll all be ecstatic.

 

[Blake]

lol @ Danny White being better than Romo. Yes, the same Danny White who threw more interceptions during his 8 seasons as a starter than all but one QB. At some point you just have to laugh at the trolls on here.

The same Danny White that actually made it to an NFC Championship. Yes, that Danny White.

 

[Diehardblues]

In my mind being a QB away means that all of those pieces are established and all that is left is QB. So we could win a super bowl this year, but a lot of pieces would have to come together this year that we didn’t have last year.

I think we are a great QB away from being a serious contender.

Imagine if we had as talented a QB as RB which is basically what we had in both of our championship eras.

 

[JustChip]

He can throw the go route past 20 yards — I’m talking about throws to the outside 10-20 yards down field. That whole part of the route tree is off the table.

But the play I referenced wasn't a go route - it was a deep out that Dez was 2-3 steps from going out of bounds.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

The same Danny White that actually made it to an NFC Championship. Yes, that Danny White.

Does that work kinda how the way Blake Bortles “made it” to a championship game? I’m not familiar with made up stats, so you’ll have to enlighten us.