How does Dak Prescott compare to other great QB’s of this era?

erod

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here we go, and every team Romo faced in his career were 100% healthy? I'm sorry any QB Cassell couldn't have he lost vs crappy teams, Weeden couldn't he too could not beat a cold. Fact is a Rookie helped lead this team to a 13-3 he did what he was supposed to do. I don't have anything against Romo and stood by him as critics went after him yet now some of those who defended Romo are not going after Dak? Dak had nothing to do with Romo departure the young man was sent into the games as a rookie and did his job

You see, this is what is so frustrating for those of us, too.

I DO NOT hate Dak Prescott. I think he is an absolutely top-notch young kid with a huge amount of leadership and poise that just oozes for him. He's very easy to root for, and I hope with everything I have that he turns out to be a franchise QB. This team is locked and loaded if he is.

However, his stats are wildly misleading, and his game has seriously glaring flaws that are not encouraging. I merely point those out here and the pom-pom wavers just go nuts.

Objectivity is possible, even if you really, really, really want Dak to be the guy.

Stats make for stupid arguments, and they mean so very little. I need to see real NFL throws from him, or the position is very much unsettled. And until he does, this thing is going nowhere, no matter how great of kid he is.
 

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Dallas had league leading rusher in Murray, Dez Bryant in his prime and a good portion of the OL and did not get past conference championship.

For one year, and Romo should have been MVP that year. He was absolutely brilliant with a very talented offensive unit.

Dez caught that damn ball. (It would be a catch under the new rules.) Murray had the dumbest fumble of the season on a play that would have put them up 24-7. And the defense was led by George Selvie on the pass rush.

But most of his career, Romo was running for his ever-loving life, bringing 3-13 rosters to 8-8 and 9-7 seasons.
 

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Not until this defense is fixed. That is still to be determined.

The pass rush was good last year and should be better. I really like the young kids in the secondary, and if LVE is a player, the linebackers suddenly look much deeper and more talented.

Add Earl Thomas, and it could be a special defense.
 

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You have the right to believe as you choose. I also recall Jimmy Johnson on live TV say he would also stick with Dak over Romo, you say it is stupid that is fine but it was not some given not when I see an NFL coach of 2 SB winner says he would stick with Dak as well. Tony retired before the team even hit mini camps, so I don't know how it may have played out had Romo came back the next year and had Dallas released him before he retired he could have looked to play else where but given the opportunity with CBS and his health he choose what he felt was best for him
I understood the reason to stick with Dak, but when he started struggling badly late in the season, I thought the change should have been made then.

Romo only retired because he was told he wouldn't be allowed to compete for the starting job. Then CBS came calling with big money.
 

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You see, this is what is so frustrating for those of us, too.

I DO NOT hate Dak Prescott. I think he is an absolutely top-notch young kid with a huge amount of leadership and poise that just oozes for him. He's very easy to root for, and I hope with everything I have that he turns out to be a franchise QB. This team is locked and loaded if he is.

However, his stats are wildly misleading, and his game has seriously glaring flaws that are not encouraging. I merely point those out here and the pom-pom wavers just go nuts.

Objectivity is possible, even if you really, really, really want Dak to be the guy.

Stats make for stupid arguments, and they mean so very little. I need to see real NFL throws from him, or the position is very much unsettled. And until he does, this thing is going nowhere, no matter how great of kid he is.

I notice people pick and choose the stats to fit their own argument. Look I want to see more from Dak and feel if he is to be the future QB of this franchise he will need to make improvements, I honesty think his biggest short coming right now is he gets hesitant with his passes. Something Coach Lil was referring to, they want him to hit that 3 , 5 and 7 step and fire the ball and some of that is trusting his WR to be where they need to be. For most passes to be successful that ball has to come out before the break and the WR must be there, once you wait until after the WR makes his break it allows the DB to get recover and get back on the WR. I think this is why they are stressing there WR to run sharp routes so Dak as Lil said can throw blind and know he WR will be there.
 

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There have been a few, but what you're leaving out is a good defense. Prescott played plenty good enough in the playoffs to win offensively. That's not what lost us the game. So your Dak hatred point is really silly if you factor everything realistically.
Not just spouting off incorrect "facts" like he can't throw a back shoulder fade.......:facepalm:
I believe Erod said “a championship offense” not team.
 

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I understood the reason to stick with Dak, but when he started struggling badly late in the season, I thought the change should have been made then.

Romo only retired because he was told he wouldn't be allowed to compete for the starting job. Then CBS came calling with big money.

yet Romo much like Aikman did not look to sign anywhere. I don't fault him, I think injuries had taken a toll. I think Romo could still play but I don't think he was going to be able to take many more hits.
 

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Every single quarterback in the league CAN throw a back-shoulder. Doesn't mean they do it well.

Dak CAN beat Garrett in an accuracy competition. He just rarely ever does it.

If he throws 100 back shoulders, he'll complete 20% of them. That doesn't make it a good option.
Either get over your Dak hatred or go follow another team, erod. That goes for anyone else. Go find some peace elsewhere. Go be happy with some other team. Dak is not going anywhere anytime soon. That's a fact. Sheesh, y'alls constant daily whining is ruining it for the rest of us.
 

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If you think Dak can effectively throw the back shoulder fade, then you've got more to learn about this game than I even imagined.

Dak was effective in 2016, not great, because he was an unknown commodity and he is incredibly poised for a young quarterback. Off the charts in that category. The run game was the best in football, and he supported it well by limiting his mistakes.

However, the book got out. Hold him in the pocket and make him work from there. He began to crater as the season went on. He played well against Green Bay, but they had an AWFUL defense that was missing 3 starters in the secondary and 2 linebackers. Green Bay was down, 31-0, the following week early in the second quarter. Just a dreadful defense, far worse than the Cowboys.

Against good defenses, Dak looks lost, dazed, and confused.

That has to change this year. Has to.
If Dak wasn’t a Cowboy opinions here would be much different.

Dak won over hearts his Rookie season and it’s going to take more evidence for them to see it.

Problem is if Dak can’t overcome his weakness we’re going to be stuck with anyway because as you and I both know Jerry and Stephen are already Dug In on Dak like many fans are.

Some fans just can’t separate our support for Dak from our criticism. Much like with any criticism they want to label as hate. That somehow elevates them from the truth.
 

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Geez. LOL, how does this level of stupidity get published?

How many quarterbacks in NFL history inherited this perfect of an offensive situation as a rookie?

Nobody. Dak walked into a championship caliber offense.

Most rookie quarterbacks who play right away were drafted by awful football teams.
Hmmmm....he walked into a championship caliber offense. Remind me, how many championships they won?
 

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Either get over your Dak hatred or go follow another team, erod. That goes for anyone else. Go find some peace elsewhere. Go be happy with some other team. Dak is not going anywhere anytime soon. That's a fact. Sheesh, y'alls constant daily whining is ruining it for the rest of us.


Of course. If we don’t think our QB is great enough we should abort our team. Lol
 

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yet Romo much like Aikman did not look to sign anywhere. I don't fault him, I think injuries had taken a toll. I think Romo could still play but I don't think he was going to be able to take many more hits.

Romo didn't want to go get beaten to a pulp behind Houston's atrocious line. And he didn't want to move away at this point from his young kids. He wanted to play another year or two here.

That's not Dak's fault. It's that back of his. But they should have given him another go. It would have benefitted Dak greatly. I truly believ that.
 

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If Dak wasn’t a Cowboy opinions here would be much different.

Dak won over hearts his Rookie season and it’s going to take more evidence for them to see it.

Problem is if Dak can’t overcome his weakness we’re going to be stuck with anyway because as you and I both know Jerry and Stephen are already Dug In on Dak like many fans are.

Some fans just can’t separate our support for Dak from our criticism. Much like with any criticism they want to label as hate. That somehow elevates them from the truth.
You obviously can't read. There is CLEAR hatred w/ no support from some.
 

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Hmmmm....he walked into a championship caliber offense. Remind me, how many championships they won?

Is that supposed to be a real question? (Football has defense, too, or were you unaware?)

Best offensive line in football. Best running back in football. Hall of Fame tight end. Pro Bowl receiver. Williams and Beasley, who were tremendously productive with Romo.

What else could he have possibly asked for?
 

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You obviously can't read. There is CLEAR hatred w/ no support from some.
Erod defintely wants to win with whoever our QB is. He just doesn’t see it with Dak at this time.

I’m not sure why that’s so difficult to swallow.

Shoot, we had frustrated disgruntled fans bashing Romo for 10 years.
 

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You obviously can't read. There is CLEAR hatred w/ no support from some.

That's where you're so wrong.

I love Dak being here. Best dang dude in the world. Working his absolute tail off. Says the right things. Leaves no stones unturned. Wants to be great and is willing to do the work.

But that doesn't mean he's there or ever will be. And there are serious concerns about him so far as a passer.
 

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Dallas had league leading rusher in Murray, Dez Bryant in his prime and a good portion of the OL and did not get past conference championship.
Well, I'm pulling for Dak.

As for 2014 in the scenario you described; it was finally a really nice setup...on offense.

Anyway, with that setup, Romo became the first QB in NFL history to the lead the league in QB rating in both the regular and post season in the same season.
He was brilliant.

All in the past though
 

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Either get over your Dak hatred or go follow another team, erod. That goes for anyone else. Go find some peace elsewhere. Go be happy with some other team. Dak is not going anywhere anytime soon. That's a fact. Sheesh, y'alls constant daily whining is ruining it for the rest of us.

You're not the boss of me.

And I don't hate Dak. I really want this to work.
 

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Is that supposed to be a real question? (Football has defense, too, or were you unaware?)

Best offensive line in football. Best running back in football. Hall of Fame tight end. Pro Bowl receiver. Williams and Beasley, who were tremendously productive with Romo.

What else could he have possibly asked for?
Yep. Defintely an offense primed to win a championship.
 
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