How does Dak Prescott compare to other great QB’s of this era?

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Romo didn't want to go get beaten to a pulp behind Houston's atrocious line. And he didn't want to move away at this point from his young kids. He wanted to play another year or two here.

That's not Dak's fault. It's that back of his. But they should have given him another go. It would have benefitted Dak greatly. I truly believ that.


And you could be right. Then again like many QB Dak is going to learn by going through ups and downs. Romo did as well. I have never had anything against Romo and felt much of the criticism of him was unfair. I see a lot of that unfairness with Dak. He has things he must improve on there is no doubt about it but he also brings another dimension to this team and I think he is more than capable of correcting things he must improve on.
 

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That's where you're so wrong.

I love Dak being here. Best dang dude in the world. Working his absolute tail off. Says the right things. Leaves no stones unturned. Wants to be great and is willing to do the work.

But that doesn't mean he's there or ever will be. And there are serious concerns about him so far as a passer.
Very typical attempt for them to discredit you personally instead of addressing or acknowledging your opinion.

“ he’s a hater so don’t listen to him” lol
 

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I'm a huge Romo fan, but my concerns about Dak have nothing to do with that. We had a chance to go from one franchise guy to the next without gap years and we took it. I didn't like it at the time but I understood the choice.

If anything is happening with Dak's narrative it's that he put up career numbers as a rookie and some have latched onto those as saying Dak has arrived. Speaking for myself at least, I don't start threads questioning Dak or saying we need to look for another QB because Dak sucks. No, I am always responding to threads that make a claim in some way that Dak is as good as Brady, Rodgers, and Brees.

The reality is that Dak was boosted by an incredible rushing attack year 1 and defenses not being sure how to take away what Dak does well. Last year teams clogged the middle and suddenly the conversation was that Witten, Beasley, and Dez had all regressed and couldn't run routes.

Watch offenses other than ours the last 2 years and you'll see a couple of throws a game when the WR has to drag their feet to catch the ball in bounds. You just don't see Dak make that throw and yet last year it had to be open because teams were clogging the middle.

So for me I don't even need Dak to be a top 5 passer to be happy with him. He does however need to be able to throw to the sidelines 10-20 yards downfield for me to feel like he is worth franchise money, unless they have schemes that can work with defenses clogging the middle and Dak not having to make those throws.

That's all I want and I'll be a huge fan when he gets there. But for some to call people haters because they don't think Dak has arrived as a passer is ridiculous.
The problem are the absolutes. You talk about him not being able to throw outside the hashes 10-20 yards downfield, yet he has. Case in point, in the 2nd NY game last year, he hit Dez in stride inside the 5 at the sideline from the 35 I believe and Dez dropped it. And please, this is NOT a Dez-bashing comment, just a refute that Dak can’t throw past 10-20 outside the hash. That’s patently not true! Now, if you want to say he doesn’t do it consistently, fine, but that’s a different arguement.
 

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And you could be right. Then again like many QB Dak is going to learn by going through ups and downs. Romo did as well. I have never had anything against Romo and felt much of the criticism of him was unfair. I see a lot of that unfairness with Dak. He has things he must improve on there is no doubt about it but he also brings another dimension to this team and I think he is more than capable of correcting things he must improve on.

My concern with Dak is accuracy. As Troy Aikman says, you're either accurate or you're not. You don't develop that.

They're going to try to play a very different brand of offense because of it. I don't think it'll work, and I'm not that excited about watching a college style quick throw offense. We'll see what it looks like soon enough.
 

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You're not the boss of me.

And I don't hate Dak. I really want this to work.
He was a huge critic of Romo if I recall correctly. I don’t think he went to root for another team while Romo was here.

Again, this is all childish play. The truth shall set us free.lol
 

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Well, I'm pulling for Dak.

As for 2014 in the scenario you described; it was finally a really nice setup...on offense.

Anyway, with that setup, Romo became the first QB in NFL history to the lead the league in QB rating in both the regular and post season in the same season.
He was brilliant.

All in the past though

Yeah and I did not lay the blame on Romo for the loss. Tony has always been a class act in my eyes and proud to have him as the QB of the Cowboys. Dak is now the guy who must go through the fire and being a Cowboy fan for as long as I have I can say that fire does not go away until you win it all.
 

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How does Dak compare with great QBs of this particular era? Here's an extremey worthwhile clue: there are many other QBs of this era who have had the valuable benefit of far more experience. Despite the fact that he's done amazingly well statistically, let's just give it more time. As much as I hate to say so -- it's a process. He's working on it feverishly, I'm sure. Let's just let patience prevail before jumping to premature conclusions. Last year was nothing more than an unfortunate circumstance. He'll be fine. Dak's a winner. ;)
 
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My concern with Dak is accuracy. As Troy Aikman says, you're either accurate or you're not. You don't develop that.

They're going to try to play a very different brand of offense because of it. I don't think it'll work, and I'm not that excited about watching a college style quick throw offense. We'll see what it looks like soon enough.

I tend to disagree, I think changing you footwork and getting the ball out on time can make a big difference. Much of that is trust, QB has to trust his WR will be there so that when they hit their mark the QB lets it go as the WR comes out of the break the ball should be there. Now if you wait until he is well out of his break you will get balls behind and high as the QB tries to rush the throw. I think WR coach is working to ensure his guys will hit their mark and make those breaks as clean as possible but Dak must trust them
 

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Is that supposed to be a real question? (Football has defense, too, or were you unaware?)

Best offensive line in football. Best running back in football. Hall of Fame tight end. Pro Bowl receiver. Williams and Beasley, who were tremendously productive with Romo.

What else could he have possibly asked for?

Most definitely there is more than offense. But the only way you can say something absolutely is “championship caliber” is if the actually win a championship. Anything else is conjecture and not fact.
 

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That's where you're so wrong.

I love Dak being here. Best dang dude in the world. Working his absolute tail off. Says the right things. Leaves no stones unturned. Wants to be great and is willing to do the work.

But that doesn't mean he's there or ever will be. And there are serious concerns about him so far as a passer.
Sorry but I'm sensing Jekyll and Hyde. You've made some very outlandish claims and some very unrealistic statements against Prescott.
You said things that are untrue and made it seem coaches said things they didn't. Hard to buy.
 

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Most definitely there is more than offense. But the only way you can say something absolutely is “championship caliber” is if the actually win a championship. Anything else is conjecture and not fact.

So Tyron Smith is not a championship caliber left tackle?
 

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Was a big supporter in the very beginning until Romo went Hollywood. Supported him in his late years. You know this, Greg.
Then why is it so difficult for you to grasp we can support the Cowboys while not being completely sold on every moving piece.

Why are fans so sensitive about Dak. If we have success it will silence the critics.
 

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Sorry but I'm sensing Jekyll and Hyde. You've made some very outlandish claims and some very unrealistic statements against Prescott.
You said things that are untrue and made it seem coaches said things they didn't. Hard to buy.

It's called being realistic. Hard to come by these days.

I need to see Dak go out and carry the team against an elite defense. He doesn't even have to win it. Just carry the day. The closest he came was Pittsburgh, but there's been nothing like that since.
 

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It's called being realistic. Hard to come by these days.

I need to see Dak go out and carry the team against an elite defense. He doesn't even have to win it. Just carry the day. The closest he came was Pittsburgh, but there's been nothing like that since.
We saw what he was without an All World supporting cast around him.

Let’s hope we can keep everyone on the field to support Dak but ultimately IMO if Dak is nothing more than a good Bus Driver I’m not sure why all the hoopla about him.
 
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It's called being realistic. Hard to come by these days.

I need to see Dak go out and carry the team against an elite defense. He doesn't even have to win it. Just carry the day. The closest he came was Pittsburgh, but there's been nothing like that since.
It's exaggerated pal. Being realistic is seeing the mistakes and being critical of Prescott but realistically seeing factors that contributed to the offenses shortcomings.
I'll never understand why some fans expect a 2 year QB to carry the team. Why would you want a team that needs a QB to carry them? It's ridiculous.
 

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We saw what he was without an All World supposing cast around him.

Let’s hope we can keep everyone on the field to support Dak but ultimately IMO if Dak is nothing more than a good Bus Driver I’m not sure why all the hoopla about him.
If you think missing your best LT, RB, RB, DT, K (arguably some of the best in the NFL) and a garbage LG, a new RT and an average at best defense has no effect you're mistaken. night and day from year one. I'm willing to bet we make the playoffs if those obstacles aren't there.
Sounds like you're trolling.
 

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It's called being realistic. Hard to come by these days.

I need to see Dak go out and carry the team against an elite defense. He doesn't even have to win it. Just carry the day. The closest he came was Pittsburgh, but there's been nothing like that since.
2016 Season Dak-led wins vs very good Defenses:

Commanders
Bears
49ers
Bengals
Packers
Eagles
Steelers
Ravens
Vikings
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